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    Hi everyone, i hope someone can answer this for me:

    i want to have the old clan Tzimisce Logo (http://orig14.deviantart.net/1a4c/f/...ad-d4k53jv.png) on a coffee mug. actually a 1 litre mug. I cant find such merchandise anywhere and cant buy it. Now there are many shops that offer to print a picture of whatever you like on a mug and produce mugs in the size needed.

    My problem is, that i am very well aware that the artwork is copyrighted and i dont want to violate any laws i just wanted to purchase one mug for personal use only and no one except my roleplaying buddies (5ppl) are going to see it.
    Now is there any chance i can make that happen? Its not really a fair use issue, and while i only want one mug and the company making it wouldonly produce 1 mug i am aware that this actually is commercial use even though to a laughable ammount of 20 bucks.

    So my question is - does anyone know a shop that actually sells such merchandise cause i dont find any and if not is there any chance i can have such a coffee mug or will i have to die without my wish fullfilled? heck if i can purchase the right to use that pic for that one mug for a reasonable price id pay it.

  • #2
    Guess that means you guys also have no idea ^^ i dont want to bother the management with a request for a single cup, any idea where i might as my question?

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    • #3
      Kinda sorta, but it's not a particularly good or useful answer.

      technically, yes it would be a copyright violation, particularly since it's a third party generating the item for profit. However as you pointed out it's a very minor one for personal use, and generally it becomes a question if it's worth engaging in legal actions over something that is so small/minor.


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      • #4
        Yeah i thought about that. I want to support the WoD franchise and i...well i want that mug ^^ if there is a chance that such a product is avalaiable anywhere for purchase id buy that, and if i can buy the right for 1 mug for say 10 dollars or such id actually pay that too.

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        • #5
          I think the old White Wolf made mugs at one point, but they've been out of production for a long time, so anything you find will be secondary market and not go to the new White Wolf or Onyx Path.

          Onyx does have a Redbubble, but I'm not sure if they have Clan symbol mugs.

          EDIT: Good news! They do.
          Last edited by Charlaquin; 02-05-2017, 02:30 PM.


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          • #6
            WoW that is a very impressive site thanks =)
            But i cant find the "old" Old Clan Tzimisce symbol: http://orig14.deviantart.net/1a4c/f/...ad-d4k53jv.png

            I just find the "new" one and i dont like that artstyle. I also dont know why they replaced the original i liked that better. am i just too dumb to find it or aint it avalaiable?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Orkar View Post
              WoW that is a very impressive site thanks =)
              But i cant find the "old" Old Clan Tzimisce symbol: http://orig14.deviantart.net/1a4c/f/...ad-d4k53jv.png

              I just find the "new" one and i dont like that artstyle. I also dont know why they replaced the original i liked that better. am i just too dumb to find it or aint it avalaiable?
              I think they only have the main 13 Clans. Old Clan Tzimisce is a Bloodline.


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              • #8
                Well i did find the "new" old Clan Tzimsice symbol https://www.redbubble.com/de/people/...uerade-symbols just cant find the old one. And they really have a lot of bloodline symbols too including Nagaraja and similiar exotic ones.

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                • #9
                  Ah, I see. In that case I don't know. I'm more of a Requiem player.


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                  • #10
                    Problem solved - the artist of the old version was found on deviantart, i asked him for permission and got it =) the old symbol was the unofficial fanart made by him and was never owned by white wolf / onyx path / paradox

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Orkar View Post
                      Problem solved - the artist of the old version was found on deviantart, i asked him for permission and got it =) the old symbol was the unofficial fanart made by him and was never owned by white wolf / onyx path / paradox
                      Sorry I didn't get in this sooner. Ian Watson made that one, right?

                      Pretty sure he's the one who let me use it for some of my character sheets a bit back.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mr Gone View Post

                        Sorry I didn't get in this sooner. Ian Watson made that one, right?

                        Pretty sure he's the one who let me use it for some of my character sheets a bit back.
                        Yes this is correct =) or ethelrad on Deviantart

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Orkar View Post
                          Yes this is correct =) or ethelrad on Deviantart
                          Awesome! Yea, he's a nice guy! Glad to hear he let you use it.


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                          • #14
                            I have a similar question to the original poster; A few years back, a friend of mine gave me a special D10, with the Apocalypse Auspice symbols on the faces, for character generation. Sadly, I lost it. Does anyone know where I could get another one? I've looked pretty much everywhere. Or, does anyone know who to talk to about getting custom dice made?


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