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  • #61
    Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post
    I can kind of see where you're coming from, but it's a point of view that I didn't share growing up. Watching these movies as a kid, I was never very impressed with the use of the force or lightsaber combat. I mean, sure, it sounded like an interesting concept, but it was always shown as this slow, clumsy set of powers that required more concentration than it was worth. In the time it took Yoda to levitate that ship out of the swamp, a mere Stormtrooper could shoot him five times in the face. The duels between Vader and Luke / Obiwan which everybody likes to claim were amazing came down to little more than them gently tapping their sabers together and making cool laser noises.
    Again though, what was cool about the Force wasn’t the set of Powers it gave you. It was cool because it connected the Jedi with the universe. Yoda lifting the X-wing wasn’t impressive because I thought it would have any value in combat. Wars not make one great. It was impressive because it proved that to him, lifting the ship was no different than lifting a rock, which was no different from lifting his hand; because he was connected to it by the force. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force flow around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, yes, even between the land and the ship.

    Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post
    The prequels (and I can't believe I'm saying anything nice about them) did a better job of depicting what these characters were truly capable of.
    The prequels unquestionably had more impressive fight choreography and displays of force use. The prequels also completely missed the point of what made Jedi cool. Granted, the fight with Maul in Phantom Menace was rad as hell, and most of the final fight between Anakin and Obi Wan was very cool. But Yoda fighting with a light Saber was a travesty, and the force use that was on display throughout the prequels cheapened the Force significantly.

    Originally posted by Nyrufa;n1173991[COLOR=#252C2F
    Outside of the EU, the most impressive thing Vader did with the force was choke one of his own men from across the galaxy. Which, if he had that power, why didn't he just choke out every rebel leader once they were identified? The Sith maintain their power through inspiring fear. I say the threat of dropping dead without any warning is far more terrifying than sending an army to your planet and giving you a fighting chance.[/COLOR]
    Eh, he was seeing the guy through a viewing screen. I don’t imagine many of the rebel leaders were Skyping with Vader. Again though, that was a cool moment because it showed that Vader’s connection to captain... Uhhh... Needa, I think? Through the force was not contingent on proximity, just like Yoda’s connection to the X-wing wasn’t contingent on size. Not just because of its potential military applications. The power of the force goes way beyond the various ways it can be used to make things dead.


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    • #62
      Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post
      It's called "a fandom" and they can be extremely passionate about whatever it is they're into, to the point of hivemind mentality.
      Yea...seems that way sadly..

      Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
      Huh... Guess I really did have more to say about it.
      And yea, you did! Nice!



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      • #63
        Originally posted by LokiRavenSpeak View Post
        And is kind of a problem of this new trilogy on how it works with each director doing its own thing and the next one doing whatever it wants. 2 years from now my bet is JJ is gonna go "buuuut actually, Rey parents are super important!!!!"
        I seriously hope not. I mean, it'll be his movie to do with as he wants, but I wouldn't want him to do that. I like the idea that a "nobody" could be a super powerful force user, as it gets back to the ideas in the OT that anyone could use the Force, not just a few special people who have a high enough concentration of midichlorians(ugggg...). Plus I like that we have some characters that aren't related to anyone special.

        Originally posted by LokiRavenSpeak View Post
        If Rian wanted to do his own thing and not having to respond to a shared universe then he shouldnt be directing SW and make his own space opera trilogy "Space wars".
        I'm pretty happy with what he did with this movie. I don't think he want to do his own thing per se, I can tell he's a big Star Wars. That's why I'm super excited to see what he'll be doing with his own trilogy of Star Wars films. They'll be set in the Star Wars Galaxy, but unrelated to the "Skywalker Saga". I think that's going to be great and I'm highly looking forward to it.



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        • #64
          I finally got a chance to see The Last Jedi last weekend, and I have to say, having grown up reading series like the Young Jedi Knights stuff, and advancing into the more adult-oriented EU with stuff like the Rogue Squadron series, The New Jedi Order, Truce at Bakura, The Courtship of Princess Leia, Heir to the Empire, and various anthologies...

          The new trilogy is so much better than pretty much all of that. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't particularly care for the EU when I revisited it as an adult. It was typically fan fiction-level writing that I enjoyed at the time because I just wanted more Star Wars. And for a time that was good.

          But I've known since Disney announced they weren't gonna bother with the Extended Universe and I actually applauded. Even if I liked most of the EU, I think it's ridiculous to expect whatever poor writer would be forced to do a new trilogy to respect not only the stuff that occurred during that time period in the EU, but in the future too (because Star Wars: Legacy was a thing). I always knew that it'd be an adaptation of that material at the most, and I think they've done a really good job. Especially with The Last Jedi.

          Highlights:

          The Hyperspace Jump
          How the Force was expanded (or Awakened, )
          Fight scene in the throne room
          Rey and her story in particular
          Everything about Luke (I'm especially happy that despite Mark Hamill expressing his dislike for what they did with the character, he did an amazing performance: the man is a professional)
          Poe's arc, Laura Dern (I was surprised and delighted how she turned out, and Rian Johnson really made me feel how Poe felt about her
          Everything about Leia. Everything.


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          • #65
            Originally posted by BigDamnHero View Post
            I finally got a chance to see The Last Jedi last weekend, and I have to say, having grown up reading series like the Young Jedi Knights stuff, and advancing into the more adult-oriented EU with stuff like the Rogue Squadron series, The New Jedi Order, Truce at Bakura, The Courtship of Princess Leia, Heir to the Empire, and various anthologies...

            The new trilogy is so much better than pretty much all of that. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't particularly care for the EU when I revisited it as an adult. It was typically fan fiction-level writing that I enjoyed at the time because I just wanted more Star Wars. And for a time that was good.

            But I've known since Disney announced they weren't gonna bother with the Extended Universe and I actually applauded. Even if I liked most of the EU, I think it's ridiculous to expect whatever poor writer would be forced to do a new trilogy to respect not only the stuff that occurred during that time period in the EU, but in the future too (because Star Wars: Legacy was a thing). I always knew that it'd be an adaptation of that material at the most, and I think they've done a really good job. Especially with The Last Jedi.

            Highlights:

            The Hyperspace Jump
            How the Force was expanded (or Awakened, )
            Fight scene in the throne room
            Rey and her story in particular
            Everything about Luke (I'm especially happy that despite Mark Hamill expressing his dislike for what they did with the character, he did an amazing performance: the man is a professional)
            Poe's arc, Laura Dern (I was surprised and delighted how she turned out, and Rian Johnson really made me feel how Poe felt about her
            Everything about Leia. Everything.
            I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed it. I've been seeing so much hate for it out there in the Internet, it's been nice to hear from people who actually enjoy it!

            And I'm with you on the old EU. While I liked some of it at the time, they really didn't have a choice but to start over with a new EU and try to take things in a fresh direction, while borrowing some of the better stuff from the old EU.

            Totally with you on your highlights too! I was a bit worried about that infamous quote from Mark Hamill, but he did an amazing job with it, and I'm glad he's seemingly come around on it.


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