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  • Camilla, are you familiar with the concept of The God of the Gaps? Essentially, if one points to things science has yet to explain as the domain of God, then God by that definition is an ever-receeding pocket of scientific ignorance. The more we, as a scientific community, learn about the universe, the less unknown space there is to point to and say “that’s God.”

    Now, I’m not trying to make any statements about religion here. Anyone’s spiritual and religious beliefs are their own, I’m just using this particular argument as an example. Because in many ways, “the people you’re talking about” are hipsters of the gaps. Every time an argument is presented to you explaining why certain people are actually useful allies, the space for “people you’re talking about” recedes ever so slightly. “I don’t mean those allies. I’m talking about those other Allies. You know, the bad ones.” The bad ones don’t exist. They’re a boogeyman created to scare moderate would-be allies out of taking a stronger stance, for fear of being “one of those people,” and to ridicule those who do take a stand as pretentious virtue-signalers. If you hadn’t actually talked to me and listened to my perspective, I would probably look like “one of those people” to you too. The only reason I’m “not who you’re talking about” is because you’ve taken the time to engage with me and humanize me and understand me as more than the stereotype that has been built up in your mind of a “pretentious hipster SJW.” That stereotype, like all stereotypes, is a fabrication. No actual human being is that one-dimensional, and if you bothered engaging with “the people you’re talking about” instead of labeling them and dismissing them on the basis of that label, you might find you have a lot more in common than you realize.


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    • Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
      Camilla, are you familiar with the concept of The God of the Gaps? Essentially, if one points to things science has yet to explain as the domain of God, then God by that definition is an ever-receeding pocket of scientific ignorance. The more we, as a scientific community, learn about the universe, the less unknown space there is to point to and say “that’s God.”

      Now, I’m not trying to make any statements about religion here. Anyone’s spiritual and religious beliefs are their own, I’m just using this particular argument as an example. Because in many ways, “the people you’re talking about” are hipsters of the gaps. Every time an argument is presented to you explaining why certain people are actually useful allies, the space for “people you’re talking about” recedes ever so slightly. “I don’t mean those allies. I’m talking about those other Allies. You know, the bad ones.” The bad ones don’t exist. They’re a boogeyman created to scare moderate would-be allies out of taking a stronger stance, for fear of being “one of those people,” and to ridicule those who do take a stand as pretentious virtue-signalers. If you hadn’t actually talked to me and listened to my perspective, I would probably look like “one of those people” to you too. The only reason I’m “not who you’re talking about” is because you’ve taken the time to engage with me and humanize me and understand me as more than the stereotype that has been built up in your mind of a “pretentious hipster SJW.” That stereotype, like all stereotypes, is a fabrication. No actual human being is that one-dimensional, and if you bothered engaging with “the people you’re talking about” instead of labeling them and dismissing them on the basis of that label, you might find you have a lot more in common than you realize.

      I suppose I never thought of it like that. I need to do some thinking and reflection on this, because you do bring up a very good point.

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      • So my grandma died.

        She was ok, was rushed into an hospital yesterday, turns out a surgery she did years ago left surgical metal inside her that moved with time and caused a sudden nasty infection. The specialist at the hospital was on summer vacation. She passed away a hour ago.

        I loved her a lot.

        Family is not really communicative at the moment and I don't blame them

        Sorry for interrupting the topic people, I needed to get that out. Won't derail further. The side I agree with is getting my likes and now I better go
        Last edited by Cinder; 07-19-2018, 07:13 PM.


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        • I'm sorry for your loss, Cinder. I noticed you said you were having a bad day earlier, you certainly don't have to apologize for posting here.

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          • Originally posted by nofather View Post
            I'm sorry for your loss, Cinder. I noticed you said you were having a bad day earlier, you certainly don't have to apologize for posting here.
            Thanks, nofather. Much appreciated.



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            • I got (rightly) called out on some of my more toxic tendencies today and I’m feeling pretty shit about it. I don’t want to be abusive and scared, but I don’t know how not to be.

              I really think being alone would be easier.


              Call me Regina or Lex.

              Female pronouns for me, please.

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              • I hate that it seems I no longer have enough time for all of my hobbies. And that sucks. Sports, video games, comics and movies have all been things I've been into for the last 33 years. Unfortunately, as I near 40, one of those had to go--and considering the state of the industry today, it's going to be comics. Maybe one day I'll have time(and money) to support the hobby again, but as it stands now, with the Big 2 both sucking ass and pumping out only a few titles worth the 3.99-4.99 they're priced, it's just not worth it to keep purchasing shitty books only to complete runs in my collection.

                Farewell, Marvel and DC. I'll see you at the movies.


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                • Today I discovered that I really hate Turning Point USA, a conservative group here in the states. I read a BBC article about them and just...I dunno. I get the creeping dread that I could have been like them, or that I could even become like them if I suddenly lost what I consider to be my compassion and my sense that the privileged are morally obligated to use their privilege for the benefit of the unprivileged.

                  It's like I see these people who claim to have these reasonable viewpoints on government fraud, waste, and abuse and I'm like, "Yeah, we definitely need more efficient government." but then they start talking about banning abortion and deregulation and tax being extortion and I feel betrayed and guilty that I let myself get as close as I did.


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                  • I hate that my fiance can't post on the forums anymore, even though we met through this very subforum. It's one of many things that have made me feel like I don't belong here anymore.


                    "Everybody is a book of blood; wherever we're opened, we're red." - Clive Barker, The Books of Blood

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                    • Originally posted by AzraelFirestorm View Post
                      I hate that my fiance can't post on the forums anymore, even though we met through this very subforum. It's one of many things that have made me feel like I don't belong here anymore.
                      I'm sorry about that, man. I really am.


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                      • Originally posted by Prometheus878 View Post

                        I'm sorry about that, man. I really am.
                        Thanks, Promie. Things just haven't been making much sense lately.


                        "Everybody is a book of blood; wherever we're opened, we're red." - Clive Barker, The Books of Blood

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                        • I hate when you tell a story and in doing so realise the event was pretty horribly abusive.


                          Call me Regina or Lex.

                          Female pronouns for me, please.

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                          • I feel ugly, inside and out.


                            "Everybody is a book of blood; wherever we're opened, we're red." - Clive Barker, The Books of Blood

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                            • Originally posted by AzraelFirestorm View Post
                              I feel ugly, inside and out.
                              (offers hug)

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                              • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                                (offers hug)
                                (takes offered hug)

                                Thank you TheCountAlucard. That's kind of you. The gesture really means quite a lot to me, especially right now. Life's been strange and kind of scary. This helps, and I'm genuinely grateful.


                                "Everybody is a book of blood; wherever we're opened, we're red." - Clive Barker, The Books of Blood

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