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  • Originally posted by Second Chances View Post
    Put spoilers in spoiler tags. PLEASE.
    Seriously, spoilers folks. I don't usually call out for them but I just started watching the new Dark Crystal series, and I'd like to see it fresh.

    Oh I saw Antrum. It was meh with a slight lean towards hmm.

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    • Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      Wow, what an incoherent rambling mess that was. And you call that “research”?

      Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      Trump’s actually more centrist than past Republican presidents;
      He’s certainly less libertarian than (most) past republican presidents...

      Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      even Obama and Hillary didn’t promise to recognize gay marriage, and he’s trying to force foreign countries to stop murdering their gays.
      Ok...?

      Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      If the Left’s ideas were so effective and popular, they wouldn’t need to use the government to force people to do what they wanted; they wouldn’t have needed to use the Supreme Court to bypass congress’s bill-writing process to make up laws through legal precedent. Obama wouldn’t have written so many executive orders, or expanded the power of the presidency that Trump now holds with those same expanded powers. (see: https://youtu.be/ymrBzgssSY8"]NOW you’re worried about Executive power?[/URL])

      Hillary would have won middle-America.
      First of all, the left’s ideas aren’t popular. Because the American Overton window is skewed so far right. Actual leftist ideas, such as socialism, are not socially acceptable in American political discourse, to the point that “socialist” is a go-to label to use to discredit democratic candidates.

      Second of all, Obama and Hillary are not left. They are center at best and any leftist will tell you the same. This is literally my point, the political discourse in the US leans so far right that people think of Obama and Hillary as “left” and moderately left-leaning politicians like Bernie Sanders as radically left.

      Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      Luke’s “final battle” and death scene were pretty cool. Whatever else I may think, I think those scenes were well-executed, and Luke’s odd behavior turning out to be because he was an illusion seemed really clever.
      Yeah, I that was awesome.


      Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      I feel you meant to insult me by calling me Thor. If so, it would be childish of you to resort to ad hominem attacks for lack of an actual counter argument. Also because I didn’t even call you a name first. If you’re instead referencing a meme, I don’t know it.
      Sorry, it was a reference to a Star Wars Youtuber called Thor Skywalker, who seems to share many of your opinions about the sequel trilogy and what it “needed to do.”

      Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
      Rose is the one who met and inspired the little broom child. Luke never left his hideaway. Also, why did Rose free the animals and not the children? Wouldn’t the children suffer punishment for letting her free the animals?
      Rose met him, yes, but it was Luke’s story the kids were telling at the end of the film right before he did the broom thing.
      Last edited by Charlaquin; 01-01-2020, 05:14 AM.


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      • Originally posted by Second Chances View Post
        Put spoilers in spoiler tags. PLEASE.
        Right you are. Editing my posts. Sorry!


        Going by Willow now, or Wil for short. She/Her/Hers.

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        • Originally posted by nofather View Post

          Seriously, spoilers folks. I don't usually call out for them but I just started watching the new Dark Crystal series, and I'd like to see it fresh.

          Oh I saw Antrum. It was meh with a slight lean towards hmm.
          Oh jeez, I’m sorry. I didn’t even think of that as a potential Dark Crystal spoiler.


          Going by Willow now, or Wil for short. She/Her/Hers.

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          • Originally posted by Charlaquin View Post
            Right you are. Editing my posts. Sorry!
            same. Sorry, people.


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            • I just want to say that I loved (LOVED) The Last Jedi, and reading the discussion about it here only makes me love it that much more.


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              • Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
                Rose is the one who met and inspired the little broom child. Luke never left his hideaway. Also, why did Rose free the animals and not the children? Wouldn’t the children suffer punishment for letting her free the animals?
                I did chuckle about that when I left the theater, how the movie spent all this time focused on the characters working to save the poor, helpless abused animal while leaving the poor, helpless, abused child slaves behind to get punished for the animals getting stolen.

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                • Originally posted by AnubisXy View Post
                  I did chuckle about that when I left the theater, how the movie spent all this time focused on the characters working to save the poor, helpless abused animal while leaving the poor, helpless, abused child slaves behind to get punished for the animals getting stolen.
                  Star Wars as a whole seems to have a tendency to ignore the plight of enslaved peoples.

                  Oola gets devoured by the Rancor because Luke had to do his three-year circuitous plan where everyone gets captured and brought out to the Sarlaac on a yacht; the Jedi and Amidala leave Anakin’s mother to remain a slave on Tattooine (and Amidala never so much as brings up slavery to the Senate); and all across the Galaxy, droids are fully-realized beings who nonetheless have to do the bidding of whoever owns them.

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                  • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                    Star Wars as a whole seems to have a tendency to ignore the plight of enslaved peoples.

                    Oola gets devoured by the Rancor because Luke had to do his three-year circuitous plan where everyone gets captured and brought out to the Sarlaac on a yacht; the Jedi and Amidala leave Anakin’s mother to remain a slave on Tattooine (and Amidala never so much as brings up slavery to the Senate); and all across the Galaxy, droids are fully-realized beings who nonetheless have to do the bidding of whoever owns them.
                    Yeah, leaving his mother a slave didn’t make any sense.

                    How did the EU handle droid enslavement? The same?


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                    • Originally posted by Sunder the Gold View Post
                      Yeah, leaving his mother a slave didn’t make any sense.
                      It makes sense in the framework I used earlier: neither the Senate nor the Jedi were truly forces for good - their complacency gave rise to that which would destroy them. Not just in letting Palpatine manipulate them, either, but in the Jedi telling Anakin to let go of his attachment to his enslaved and suffering mother, and in the Senators being willing to ignore sweeping institutional problems that led to the dissatisfaction that would form the Separatist movement (and further being willing to cede more and more power to a single person rather than work together to solve issues).

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                      • Then there's this whole thing with mass-producing clones for the sole purpose of fighting and dying. Everyone was weirdly chill with that.

                        I've decided I probably won't see Rise of the Skywalker. It really sounds uncomfortably like bowing down to the worst parts of the Star Wars fandom in several respects. And I didn't even like TLJ that much (I loved the parts with Rey and Luke, not so much everything else).

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                        • Originally posted by Morty View Post
                          Then there's this whole thing with mass-producing clones for the sole purpose of fighting and dying. Everyone was weirdly chill with that.
                          How old were the clones when they were fielded? Ten years? Twelve?
                          Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 01-01-2020, 06:20 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                            How old were the clones when they were fielded? Ten years? Twelve?
                            The clones were deemed combat-ready at the age of ten, according to this super-old book on my shelf. So... they're cloned, enslaved child-soldiers.

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                            • Originally posted by Morty View Post

                              So... they're cloned, enslaved child-soldiers.
                              Marvel and 2010's Tony Stark would be very happy to see he's not alone in that endeavor.


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                              • Originally posted by Morty View Post

                                The clones were deemed combat-ready at the age of ten, according to this super-old book on my shelf. So... they're cloned, enslaved child-soldiers.
                                Not to defend the whole clone army thing, but the Caminoans did use some type of “growth acceleration” that made the clones mature at twice the normal rate, so a 10-year-old clone would ostensibly have the physical and mental maturity of a 20-year-old human. Doesn’t change the fact that it was a messed-up practice, but there you have it.


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