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    Poll for everyone: When you see a name with Y (as a vowel) how do you say it? How do these names sound in your head?


    gods: Lytek, Nysela, Ryzala, Sylvi, Tethys, Tylokan, Yesryk, Ystara
    demons: chrysogona, erymanthus, gilmyne, Calymdos, Euthychia, Ipithymia, Lypothymie
    Primordials: Cecelyne, Cytherea, Lykkennan
    behemoths: Elysande, Scathra yn Thera
    the elemental dragon Dyballe
    the Solar Exalt Tyraeth
    Gens Vagyn


    I'm finalizing sounds for my Old Realm name generator and since Old Realm is written with 5 vowels, I won't include Y as a vowel... so I have to decide what vowel or dipthong it stands for. I have my own idea but I'd like to know what players say around the gaming table.

    Thank you to everyone who answers.
    Last edited by Erinys; 12-25-2016, 01:59 AM.


    She/Her. I am literal-minded and write literally. If I don't say something explicitly, please never assume I implied it. The only exception is if I try to make a joke.
    My point of view may be different from yours but is equally valid.
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  • #2
    If it's near the beginning of the name, I use a hard "i" sound, like in "spike" or "trident." If it's near the end of the name, I probably use the hard "e" sound, like in "eat" or "beef," but this sometimes doesn't hold true depending on whether there's a vowel after it and whether said vowel is silent or not. Also Tethys is definitely a soft "i" sound, and Calymdos likewise (at least in my games).

    It's hard to wholesale convert a letter when that letter can sound several different ways.
    Last edited by Remedy; 12-22-2016, 08:15 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Erinys View Post
      Gods' names like Lytek, Nysela, Ryzala, Tethys?
      Demons and Yozis like Cecelyne, Cytherea, gilmyne, chrysogona, Calymdos?
      Exalted names like Tyraeth?
      Lie-Tek. Ni-Cell-a. Ray-Zal-a. Teth(similiar to Meth)-iss.
      Cess-Cell-EEn. Cy(as in Scythe)-Therr-E-a. Gil-Meene. Chris-o-Gon-a. Kal-im-dos (think: Kalimdor from WoW).
      Tie-Wreath.


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      • #4
        Wasnt there something like a syllabary-pronunciation guide for Realm Script in 1e Exalted PG?
        That should be useful for the sake of cooking up some rough guideline, i guess...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Erinys View Post
          Q/straw poll for everyone: When you see a name with Y (as a vowel) how do you say it in your head? What sound does the vowel Y have in your head?

          Gods' names like Lytek, Nysela, Ryzala, Tethys?
          Lie-tek. Nigh-sell-ah. Rye-zal-ah, Sith-is

          Demons and Yozis like Cecelyne, Cytherea, gilmyne, chrysogona, Calymdos?
          Sa-sealing, Sith-ear-eah, Gil-mean, Cry-sog-na, Cal-modos

          Tyraeth?
          Tear-eth


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Baaldam View Post
            Wasnt there something like a syllabary-pronunciation guide for Realm Script in 1e Exalted PG?
            That should be useful for the sake of cooking up some rough guideline, i guess...
            It has been helpful! It just doesn't have Y as a vowel, so...

            So, I'm seeing a mixture of /i/ and /ai/, which is how I see it too. Plus some /ɪ/.



            Hmmm. This will be hard.


            But you're all helping! OK, what about:

            gods: Dyballe, Sylvi, Tylokan, Yesryk, Ystara
            demons: erymanthus, Euthychia, Ipithymia, Lypothymie
            behemoths: Elysande, Scathra yn Thera
            the Primordial (or behemoth?) Lykkennan
            Gens Vagyn
            Last edited by Erinys; 12-23-2016, 01:39 AM.


            She/Her. I am literal-minded and write literally. If I don't say something explicitly, please never assume I implied it. The only exception is if I try to make a joke.
            My point of view may be different from yours but is equally valid.
            Exalted-cWoD-ArM url mega-library. Exalted name-generators, Exalted and WTA stuff from me and others.

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            • #7
              Some example susing IPA as best as I can approximate.

              Lytek - "LIE-tek" /laɪ-tɛk/
              Nysela - "NIE-seh-la" /naɪ-sɛ-lə/
              Ryzala - "RIE-za-la" /raɪ-zə-lə/
              Tethys - "TEH-this" /tɛ-ðɪs/

              Yozi - "YOE-zee" /joʊ-zi/
              Cecelyne - "seh-SEH-line" /sɛ-sɛ-laɪn/
              Cytherea - "sie-THER-ee-ah" /saɪ-θɛər-i-ə/
              gilmyne - "gill-mine" /gɪl-maɪn/
              chrysogona - "kris-AH-gah-nah" /krɪs-ɒ-gɒ-nə/
              Calymdos - "kal-LIM-dose" /kæl-lɪm-dɒs/

              Tyraeth - "tai-wraith" /taɪ-reθ/

              And stuff.
              Last edited by Blaque; 12-22-2016, 09:20 PM.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Erinys View Post
                It has been, it just doesn't have Y.

                So, I'm seeing a mixture of /i/ and /ai/, which is how I see it too.

                Hmmm.

                Good to know, i really could not - still cant, for the next week - check my books to suggest anything remotely useful beside that. Funny that they ignored Y while referencing CH, SH and other stuff in notes.

                With names taken from obscure sources - like Cytherea [Kiteria], for example - the wiki or some online dictionaries can help with tracking pronunciation inspiration, so to speak, but with utterly made-up ones (afaik), as Lytek & Rizala, the Y can be a serious problem.

                Or a joke - did SWLIHN burn the Ys out of existence, making those names outdated-weird even for the gods themselves?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Baaldam View Post
                  Or a joke - did SWLIHN burn the Ys out of existence, making those names outdated-weird even for the gods themselves?
                  LOL

                  The ones from real world languages are all some kind of i, except Ystara. But here I'm interested in whatever you all say around the table. With how wildly the spellings vary, I'm assuming none of the spelling is consistent.

                  Actually I do have this idea that the Primordials and their souls named themselves before they met each other and began to talk, and some of them have names that can't be pronounced in Old Realm. Like Kek’Tungsssha, that's probably the worst offender. And Gnimersalt -- does it taste better with salt, and if so what spice is gnimer?
                  Last edited by Erinys; 12-22-2016, 11:29 PM.


                  She/Her. I am literal-minded and write literally. If I don't say something explicitly, please never assume I implied it. The only exception is if I try to make a joke.
                  My point of view may be different from yours but is equally valid.
                  Exalted-cWoD-ArM url mega-library. Exalted name-generators, Exalted and WTA stuff from me and others.

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                  • #10
                    Second batch:
                    Dyballe - "dih-BA'-lay" /dɪ-bɑː-le/
                    Sylvi - "SIL-vee" /sɪl-vi/
                    Tylokan - "TIE-lo-kon" /taɪ-lo-kən/
                    Yesryk - "yez-rik" /jɛz-rɪk/
                    Ystara - "iys-ta-ra" /ɪjs-tɑ-rɑ/

                    erymanthus - "air-EE-man-thus" /er-i-mæn-ðʌs/
                    Euthychia - "you-THIGH-kia" /ju-θaɪ-ki-ə/
                    Ipithymia - "ih-pi-THIGH-mi-a" /ɪ-pɪ-θaɪ-mi-ə/
                    Lypothymie - "lie-poe-THIGH-mi-aye" /lɪ-po-θaɪ-mi-e/
                    Elysande - "eh-LIE-san-day" /ɛ-laɪ-sən-de/
                    Scathra yn Thera - "scah-thra iyn THEH-ra" /ska-ðʌ/ /ɪjn/ /θɛ-rʌ/
                    Lykkennan - "like-ken-NAN" /laɪk-kæn-nən/
                    Vagyn - "VAH-gin" "va-gɪn"

                    And stuff.


                    And stuff.
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                    • #11
                      , Nysela, Ryzala, Tethys, Cytherea, chrysogona, Calymdos, Tyraeth, Elysande, Scathra yn Thera, Lykkennan, Vagyn, Dyballe, Sylvi, Tylokan, Yesryk, Ystara, Lypothymie, erymanthus
                      /ʏ/
                      Like so.

                      Lytek, Cecelyne, gilmyne, Euthychia, Ipithymia
                      /yː/
                      Like so.

                      Approximately, of course.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Erinys View Post
                        Gods' names like Lytek, Nysela, Ryzala, Tethys?
                        Demons and Yozis like Cecelyne, Cytherea, gilmyne, chrysogona, Calymdos?
                        Exalted names like Tyraeth?
                        Lie-tech
                        Niss-ell-ah
                        Rye-za-la
                        Teth-iss

                        Sess-a-lean (or Sess-ell-een, depending on where you cut the syllables)
                        Sith-air-ee-uh (or Sih-thair-ee-uh)
                        Gill-my-knee
                        Chris-aw-gin-a (gin like the drink)
                        Cal-im-dos

                        Tear-ay-eth (like a tear on a cheek)

                        Yeah, this is inconsistent. I'm an English speaker; I swim in inconsistency with aplomb.


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                        • #13
                          I'm Swedish so I'm not even going to try to tell you how I pronounce certain things.

                          To be fair though, because I'm Swedish, the letter Y is probably the only thing I can pronounce better than all of you.


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                          • #14
                            Y do you ask?


                            He/him

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ekorren View Post
                              I'm Swedish so I'm not even going to try to tell you how I pronounce certain things.
                              Pretty much this for me as well.

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