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  • #16
    I'd like to know what happens when a target is subject to multiple different poisons, since the corebook says nothing on the subject.
    It does say that multiple instances of the same poison stack in duration, but I have no idea how that could be applied to different poisons with different stats.

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    • #17
      Well, two possible answers:

      They stack. Poison stacking sounds very scary!

      They stack duration. So the most debilitating effect is maintained but its duration is longer. Seems fiddly to me.

      I suspect the former is true, but that's just my gut.


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      • #18
        Originally posted by Leetsepeak View Post
        Well, two possible answers:

        They stack. Poison stacking sounds very scary!

        They stack duration. So the most debilitating effect is maintained but its duration is longer. Seems fiddly to me.

        I suspect the former is true, but that's just my gut.
        I recall...Holden, I think, talking about a character using Evocations to store poisons and them pass them along having their weapon taken from them and thus having to check against all those poisons. I'll see if I can find it, because I don't remember the details and there might be at least hints of dev intent there.


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        • #19
          It wouldn'the make much sense to me if doses of the same poison stack duration, but different poisons stack efficacy. Then you get into weirdness about how different two poisons are; is being bitten by a coral snake and then a rattlesnake really handled differently from being bitten by a coral snake and then being hit by an arrow frog envenomed arrow? Or just being bitten by a coral snake twice?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by danelsan View Post

            I recall...Holden, I think, talking about a character using Evocations to store poisons and them pass them along having their weapon taken from them and thus having to check against all those poisons. I'll see if I can find it, because I don't remember the details and there might be at least hints of dev intent there.
            He was talking about a pre-release version of Spring Razor, I believe.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Blackwell View Post
              It wouldn'the make much sense to me if doses of the same poison stack duration, but different poisons stack efficacy. Then you get into weirdness about how different two poisons are; is being bitten by a coral snake and then a rattlesnake really handled differently from being bitten by a coral snake and then being hit by an arrow frog envenomed arrow? Or just being bitten by a coral snake twice?

              Under the assumption that one is "Heart-stoppingly toxic" and another is "muscle-spasmingly inconvenient" then yeah, it makes sense to me to track them separately. Unless the more dangerous one supersedes the weaker one, but then do you just ignore the weaker one entirely? If Lock-Joint poison lasts a day and Heart Stab only lasts one minute, can I poison myself with Heart Stab to "shake off" Lock-Joint? If two poisons are similar enough, I could Coral Snake proof myself by "only" getting rattlesnaked. Exalted, to me, deals more with "magnitudes" than DnD, so "mundane snake venom" is as uniform as different arrow heads. Snake Venom, Bile of the Eldritch Jellyfish, and Soul Rot Spores, on the other hand...

              But yeah, I agree with you. Same (general) source, same effect. Presumably the poisoner is making these poisons, so they should have a bunch of different strengths around.


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              • #22
                Originally posted by prototype00 View Post

                On Nishkriya archiving a post on this forum, Vance has said WDC is good to go with Black Claw.

                http://nishkriya.com/Threads/Details/9728

                I would also allow practice of Black Claw with WDC.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Holden View Post


                  I would also allow practice of Black Claw with WDC.
                  Would you please explain this a bit? Because it seems like the giant claws made of thorns and brambles would undermine the attempt to act fragile and innocent, so I don't really get how that works.
                  Last edited by BrilliantRain; 01-26-2017, 05:18 PM.


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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BrilliantRain View Post

                    Would you please explain this a bit? Because it seems like the giant claws made of thorns and brambles would undermine the attempt to act fragile and innocent, so I don't really get how that works.

                    If we go with that precedent though you limit vastly who can use the style, I mean so muscular beardy drifters can't use it then? It would only be able to be comboed with subtle styles like White Veil and Dreaming Pearl Courtesan then? Being intimidating is relative, I believe the emphasis is on your actions rather their your appearance as the style itself handles making you seem innocent.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Holden View Post


                      I would also allow practice of Black Claw with WDC.
                      Ah, something to add to Nishkriya then.

                      Also, on WDC making you not look innocent/harmless, well, depends who you are fighting, doesn't it? If you are up against Joe Earth Aspect Shikari with his thousand year goremaul and white jade plated armor that ten men can't carry, and you have WDC, you still look like you're going to be pulped.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by prototype00 View Post

                        Also, on WDC making you not look innocent/harmless, well, depends who you are fighting, doesn't it? If you are up against Joe Earth Aspect Shikari with his thousand year goremaul and white jade plated armor that ten men can't carry, and you have WDC, you still look like you're going to be pulped.
                        But you don't look harmless because your hand are giant murderclaws.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kunoichi View Post

                          But you don't look harmless because your hand are giant murderclaws.
                          But even if you didn't have that and you were a demon that knows you could have horns, or a Solar that knows it that is filled with scars and has a Dawn Anima banner, Dragon claws are relative, people will just view it as your hands.

                          Otherwise you are saying only what shoujo schoolgirls and hookers can learn it?


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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BrilliantRain View Post
                            Would you please explain this a bit? Because it seems like the giant claws made of thorns and brambles would undermine the attempt to act fragile and innocent, so I don't really get how that works.
                            It might, to a certain extent, but not nearly as much as, say, displaying a Solar Anima would.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kunoichi View Post

                              But you don't look harmless because your hand are giant murderclaws.
                              It's worth noting that "giant murderclaws" are the base form, but the second of their powers describes how they can be molded to pretty much any size, shape or form. Being natural weapons and so malleable to boot would make them trivial to hide.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Star Stealing Scholar View Post

                                It's worth noting that "giant murderclaws" are the base form, but the second of their powers describes how they can be molded to pretty much any size, shape or form. Being natural weapons and so malleable to boot would make them trivial to hide.

                                Exactly I have a lot of these sorcerers display a thorny rose motiff, and that seems fitting.


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