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  • The Great Wall: A solar among dragon bloods

    If you haven't seen it yet, The Great Wall is a pretty good exalted-style movie.

    It has lots of shtick-based combat and has some interesting parallels to Exalted.

    However, with a character named 'Strategist Wang', it also seems ripe for a porn parody. He saves the day a few times with his strategic wang-ing.


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    Is that the one were a random white guy saves China?


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
      Is that the one were a random white guy saves China?
      Yeah, pretty much. Though in the end he helps the chinese female lead to do the final heroic act. Tje whole movie is pretty average but its visually impressive.


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      • #4
        It's style over substance for sure, but the style does make up for a lot. If you enjoy exalted combat stunting, this movie's got you covered.


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        • #5
          So, wait, are the Chinese people in the movie a decadent upper-crust caste of dangerous backdoor-dealing elites at the center of the world's greatest empire, or do they have elemental powers? What is it about their depiction in the movie that makes them resemble Dragon-Blooded to you?

          If it's just that they're having to turn to a white guy Solar to save them, why assume they're Exalted at all?

          (While admitting to not having seen the movie, if it was me, I'd likewise agree that the Chinese people in the movie were Dragon-Blooded if they attempted to hunt down Matt Damon and murder him, and then destroyed the monsters themselves with a combination of elemental arete and a terrifying human cost.)
          Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 02-20-2017, 08:29 AM.

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          • #6
            Things that make them seem dragonblooded:
            Colour coded armour based on fighting style preference
            Extremely well drilled armies led by badass elite combatants
            Bungee spear combo martial arts acrobatics
            Yes, chinese/east asian style to weapons and armour
            An army built on duty and comradery



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            • #7
              edit: also that: ↑

              Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
              So, wait, are the Chinese people in the movie a decadent upper-crust caste of dangerous backdoor-dealing elites at the center of the world's greatest empire, or do they have elemental powers? What is it about their depiction in the movie that makes them resemble Dragon-Blooded to you?
              The Nameless Order is a military order commissioned by the Realm (I mean Imperial Song Dynasty) specifically to hunt down and fight Luna Anathema (I mean Tao Tie aliens), that is divided into five colour-coded specialist units: the melee using Bear Troop, the martial arts Crane Troop, the archery unit Eagle Troop, the horse-riding Deer Troop, and the siege engineers of the Tiger Troop. I don't know why anyone would think Wyld Hunt.
              Last edited by Greyman; 02-20-2017, 09:33 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Greyman View Post
                Luna Anathema (I mean Tao Tie aliens)
                So, the monsters in the movie are human skin-changers who mobilize barbarian hordes to grind down the Chinese defenses while they perform careful surgical strikes into the gears of the empire? That wasn't in the trailer at all.

                Originally posted by Greyman View Post
                I don't know why anyone would think Wyld Hunt.
                So, wait, they're going out and crossing national barriers to proactively hunt these things as they first rise up? I thought they were defending China from huge monsters, like, from a wall or something? Shit, the trailer and the movie title have deceived me!

                Originally posted by Greyman View Post
                ...that is divided into five specialist units: the melee using Bear Troop, the martial arts Crane Troop, the archery unit Eagle Troop, the horse-riding Deer Troop, and the siege engineers of the Tiger Troop.
                That's not how the Wyld Hunt is organized.

                Originally posted by BjornTheFellhanded View Post
                Colour coded armour based on fighting style preference
                I'm willing to give this half a point, as certain aspects of Dragon-Blooded do tend to wield certain colors of jade more than others, but those are aspects, not fighting style preferences.

                Originally posted by BjornTheFellhanded View Post
                Extremely well drilled armies led by badass elite combatants
                Pretty much any place in the setting that can maintain a standing army does this. It's hardly exclusive to the Dragon-Blooded.

                Originally posted by BjornTheFellhanded View Post
                Bungee spear combo martial arts acrobatics
                I'd just like to point out that none of the Immaculate Styles use spears. Not a one.

                Originally posted by BjornTheFellhanded View Post
                Yes, chinese/east asian style to weapons and armour
                I'm only willing to give this one half a point as well, because that's the Realm, not the Dragon-Blooded.

                Originally posted by BjornTheFellhanded View Post
                An army built on duty and comradery
                And again, pretty much any place in the setting that can maintain a standing army does this, because an army built on "you can just leave whenever, brah, ch'yah," is not going to do very well.
                Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 02-20-2017, 09:48 AM.

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                • #9
                  IIT TheCountAlucard explains how "The Great Wall" is *not*, suprisingly, exactly the same as Exalted.

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                  • #10
                    Cool visuals and stunt-fodder are great and all (no, really, they are), but I think sometimes folks are a little quick to start trying to draw parallels. It feels like every time a new fantasy movie comes out with action scenes in the trailer, people come here and post a thread asking if it's Exalted enough. Sorry if I ruffled anyone's feathers.
                    Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 02-20-2017, 10:24 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CapitanTypo View Post
                      However, with a character named 'Strategist Wang', it also seems ripe for a porn parody. He saves the day a few times with his strategic wang-ing.
                      Not pronounced even remotely the same way. The ng is like the gn in gnaw, the a has an ah sound, and you say it with a rising tone.

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                      • #12
                        Well the Tao Tein make more sense as a Beastman Tribe then as actual Lunars.
                        I will Say the Movie can serve as inspiration for an Exalted style of combat in some cases.
                        Matt Damon's Character Will is essentially a Solar/Godblood who uses a bow for some insane stunts.

                        If i was to compare it directly to Exalted, I'd say it's more a combined Army of Lookshyian troops. They are Garrisoned in an area boxing in a hostile force that rises every 60 years and attacks the wall, in vengance for the "Greed of Man" (Or in Exalted's Case the hubris of Dragonbloods, since the attacks have been coming for the last 1000+ Years). They take there own Dead and Feed on them.. and they take the dead of anyone they can to feed the Queen and help her "Evolve" (Give her more Heart's Blood to let her shift into more forms... this is the only bit that never happens. But they do state several times that the Tao Tien are Evolving getting Smarter etc).

                        It can be used as inspiration... but i won't say it fits perfectly.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RickmanUK View Post
                          Well the Tao Tein make more sense as a Beastman Tribe then as actual Lunars.
                          I will Say the Movie can serve as inspiration for an Exalted style of combat in some cases.
                          Matt Damon's Character Will is essentially a Solar/Godblood who uses a bow for some insane stunts.

                          If i was to compare it directly to Exalted, I'd say it's more a combined Army of Lookshyian troops. They are Garrisoned in an area boxing in a hostile force that rises every 60 years and attacks the wall, in vengance for the "Greed of Man" (Or in Exalted's Case the hubris of Dragonbloods, since the attacks have been coming for the last 1000+ Years). They take there own Dead and Feed on them.. and they take the dead of anyone they can to feed the Queen and help her "Evolve" (Give her more Heart's Blood to let her shift into more forms... this is the only bit that never happens. But they do state several times that the Tao Tien are Evolving getting Smarter etc).

                          It can be used as inspiration... but i won't say it fits perfectly.
                          So they're kind of like those demons around the Invisible Fortress, then. Or perhaps more behemoth-ish, where one behemoth can spawn many young.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                            So they're kind of like those demons around the Invisible Fortress, then. Or perhaps more behemoth-ish, where one behemoth can spawn many young.
                            It's explained that the "Queen" is the mother of them all and the Brains/Communication hub of the Hive. She Births More of them. Now my thoughts on this would be (If i was going to run a game with them in it) I'd have the reason for why the Queen comes every 60 Years is that that's how long it takes for the Hive to Produce a New one. Either the Older one Leaves to set up a New Hive.. or the New one is pushed out and takes alot of the Drones with them. The More of it's own Kind it eats... The more they end up like Monsters. The More "Higher" Creatures they eat the Smarter they get overall.


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                            • #15
                              The thread title manages to turn the implications of the movie having a white male protagonist up to 11, well played.


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