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    Got some questions regarding the mechanics of using this spell:

    She rolls (Intelligence +
    Presence) to instill, persuade, or inspire the dreaming
    character, as best fits the imagery and emotional tenor of the
    dream she creates. He cannot apply any Intimacies to enhance
    Resolve against this influence, nor can he pay Willpower to
    resist unless the influence threatens one of his Intimacies.
    So lets start with what is meant with "threaten one of his intimacies". Is this referring exclusively to instill actions? Or could a persuade action threaten someones intimacies?

    It also mentions how one cannot apply any intimacies to enhance resolve against this social influence, so how does the decision point mechanic work then?

    The target for the persuade action must pick a intimacy to boost his resolve or this mechanic stops working. So my take on this is that target picks a intimacy for the purpose of having selected one in case of a decision point, but receives no benefit from it.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Volivat View Post
    Got some questions regarding the mechanics of using this spell:



    So lets start with what is meant with "threaten one of his intimacies". Is this referring exclusively to instill actions? Or could a persuade action threaten someones intimacies?
    I think it means either/both the instill action to lower an intimacy or a persuade action that would threaten an intimacy, such as killing, robbing, or the like said intimacy.


    Originally posted by Volivat View Post
    It also mentions how one cannot apply any intimacies to enhance resolve against this social influence, so how does the decision point mechanic work then?
    It works by the bit where if you have an intimacy you can will power to ignore it (the abriged version of a decision point).


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Volivat View Post
      So lets start with what is meant with "threaten one of his intimacies". Is this referring exclusively to instill actions? Or could a persuade action threaten someones intimacies?
      It's pretty literal. Eroding an Intimacy with instill actions threatens them by default. Convincing you to kill your wife threatens your Tie of love towards her. Intimidating someone into doing what you want threatens their Principle of never backing down. Etc., etc.

      It also mentions how one cannot apply any intimacies to enhance resolve against this social influence, so how does the decision point mechanic work then?

      The target for the persuade action must pick a intimacy to boost his resolve or this mechanic stops working. So my take on this is that target picks a intimacy for the purpose of having selected one in case of a decision point, but receives no benefit from it.
      The Intimacy you call on in a Decision Point doesn't add to your Resolve. Normally, if you want both the bonus and the Decision Point, you need to call on two separate Intimacies; here, you're only allowed to use one for the latter.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Robert Vance View Post
        It's pretty literal. Eroding an Intimacy with instill actions threatens them by default. Convincing you to kill your wife threatens your Tie of love towards her. Intimidating someone into doing what you want threatens their Principle of never backing down. Etc., etc.


        The Intimacy you call on in a Decision Point doesn't add to your Resolve. Normally, if you want both the bonus and the Decision Point, you need to call on two separate Intimacies; here, you're only allowed to use one for the latter.


        Thx for clarifying it for me.

        But that means that repeated uses of this spell against a target when following the retry social influences rules will allow the target to use the same intimacy every time to ignore the influence in a decision point situation (as written the rules only disallow the use of intimacies in decision points that have boosted resolve prior to entering a decision point)

        Is that working as intended?

        Last edited by Volivat; 02-27-2017, 01:17 PM.

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