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  • Aretii
    started a topic Micro-preview of Infernals

    Micro-preview of Infernals

    One of the Castes of Infernals will be called Penumbra.

    Neall Raemonn Price‏ @burntneall
    Happy eclipse to Eclipse Caste Solars, Moonshadow Caste Abyssals, and Penumbra Caste Infernals

    Tyler Carpenter‏ Adarael
    My co-worker and I were waiting to see the first Exalted tweet.

    Neall Raemonn Price‏ @burntneall
    Ahh, but did you spot the first re-named Infernal Caste...?
    This goes against what was previewed under the old dev team, which was that the new Infernal Castes would be two words, but is in line with the move towards being a twisted mirror of the Solars instead of miniature Yozis.

    Dear Neall: As a massive Infernals fan, I will accept this micro-preview as your birthday present to me.

  • Bastet
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    The main problem I have is that with all the fanfare given to Infernals becoming Devil Tigers, telling someone that their PC is unsuitable to become one is probably not going to go down very well.

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  • The Hug Ninja
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    Originally posted by Aretii View Post
    I mean, I assume that's part of the point, right? You need to shed your humanity to emulate a Primordial, and part of that means setting aside all the normal bundled contradictions and edge cases and grandfathered attitudes of human existence to decide what Your Identity is, what's really important and congruent with your self-image and what's not. And that, like sorcery, might involve saying to certain things that developed naturally over time "bye, I care less about you than about this unnatural development." It is a combination of enlarging the soul and diminishing it.
    There's one massive problem I see with that.
    The reason why people had a much easier time planning their Devil Tigers out at character creation is because the source of these contradictions and edge cases overwhelmingly tend to be the other PCs. I think this is doubly so in an Infernals game where a perfect coven playing to their strength must exist in something of an odd couple dynamic.

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  • Isator Levi
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    I doubt there would ever be a thing (ineffectually) forbidding players from exploring that as a space.

    ​Mind, given sorcerous workings, I think just about anybody could achieve the same result.

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  • Blaque
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    Spirit of the Living World in my mind would be a pretty awesome baseline to build on for whatever Wyld-Shaping like thing they might have too. Solars impose order to chaos, while Infernals wrought their personal realities into our world. Things like that.

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  • Aretii
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    Originally posted by The Hug Ninja View Post
    The most disappointing thing about Devil Tigers for me was that after years of rolling my eyes at people doing that, I was ultimately forced to conclude that reaching essence 6 naturally and figuring out your legend from there didn't really work.

    The Yozi Excellency model is much better suited to pithy statements like “genius polymath former concubine turned terrorist mastermind” and kind of buckles under the kind of contradictions you often see with years of character development.
    I mean, I assume that's part of the point, right? You need to shed your humanity to emulate a Primordial, and part of that means setting aside all the normal bundled contradictions and edge cases and grandfathered attitudes of human existence to decide what Your Identity is, what's really important and congruent with your self-image and what's not. And that, like sorcery, might involve saying to certain things that developed naturally over time "bye, I care less about you than about this unnatural development." It is a combination of enlarging the soul and diminishing it.

    (I've spent a lot of time thinking about what Devil-Tiger bits are salvageable for Ex3, and the answer is "probably not much," but as I alluded in the other thread, you can have Path of a Thousand Whispers when you rip it from my shade's hands.)

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  • The Hug Ninja
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    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
    "I know you said you wanted Solar PCs for this game, but I made a Green Sun Prince, including the Charms I want him to develop when he becomes a Devil-Tiger, and here's the demon pantheon he's gonna make out of his soul, and…"
    The most disappointing thing about Devil Tigers for me was that after years of rolling my eyes at people doing that, I was ultimately forced to conclude that reaching essence 6 naturally and figuring out your legend from there didn't really work.

    The Yozi Excellency model is much better suited to pithy statements like “genius polymath former concubine turned terrorist mastermind” and kind of buckles under the kind of contradictions you often see with years of character development.

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  • glamourweaver
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    Cytherea's 1e niche is being a complete cypher.

    Cytherea's 2E niche is being the "Big Bang" primordial. Her charms would involve a massive mote pool and the ability to exponentially enhance the effects of others by spending it, as she did in sexual Congress without Gaia to forge Creation.

    Expect her to go back to "about whom nothing else is known" in 3E.

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  • TheCountAlucard
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    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post
    It went so far over the line that it basically created an entirely different game within the game, and said sub-game rapidly grew to eclipse the main one..
    "I know you said you wanted Solar PCs for this game, but I made a Green Sun Prince, including the Charms I want him to develop when he becomes a Devil-Tiger, and here's the demon pantheon he's gonna make out of his soul, and…"

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post

    Glories of the Most High: Luna calls out Luna's drive to change and improve constantly as being Cythera's contribution to her nature. That seems like it's a pretty big deal for Luna, I'd say.

    I'm not necessarily saying that this should remain the case in 3e - personally, I do prefer the "Cythera, about who little is known" version, I think the attempt to explain All the Yozis in 2e went a bit too far in removing some of the mystery and mysticism from them. But 2e did provide some more detail on Cythera, regardless of whether that was a good idea or not, and I was just explaining those details that were supplied.
    A bit too far? It set up a potential treadmill for endless numbers of Charms detailing their wants and desires. It went so far over the line that it basically created an entirely different game within the game, and said sub-game rapidly grew to eclipse the main one..

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  • Kelly Pedersen
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    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

    Yet, how much does she actually bring to the table when she's saddled with the conceptualization of "empowers others to be more potent"?
    Glories of the Most High: Luna calls out Luna's drive to change and improve constantly as being Cythera's contribution to her nature. That seems like it's a pretty big deal for Luna, I'd say.

    I'm not necessarily saying that this should remain the case in 3e - personally, I do prefer the "Cythera, about who little is known" version, I think the attempt to explain All the Yozis in 2e went a bit too far in removing some of the mystery and mysticism from them. But 2e did provide some more detail on Cythera, regardless of whether that was a good idea or not, and I was just explaining those details that were supplied.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by armyofwhispers View Post
    I highly encourage you to actually read the text in question before you disparage how much input she had. I think the idea of her as empowering others to achieve things may have come into the line after this point.
    It doesn't quite matter so much any more. I've also spent a long time unlearning 2e, so I don't really want to look back at it. I recall Luna being purpose built to be a sexy enticement to Gaia and growing beyond it. Just one of the many incidents where we got too much detail about the default setup and history of the game.

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  • armyofwhispers
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    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

    Yet, how much does she actually bring to the table when she's saddled with the conceptualization of "empowers others to be more potent"? Even when 2e Cytherea is called out as the chief architect of something, anything, her position in this regard is highly dubious for it.
    I highly encourage you to actually read the text in question before you disparage how much input she had. I think the idea of her as empowering others to achieve things may have come into the line after this point.

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  • Stephen Lea Sheppard
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    "About whom nothing more is known" ought to mean what it says, in much the same way that "This myth, which is certainly false," oughtn't mean "This myth, which is actually secretly true...."

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by armyofwhispers View Post
    *blink* *blink*
    I don't want to be confrontational here, but...


    Yet, how much does she actually bring to the table when she's saddled with the conceptualization of "empowers others to be more potent"? Even when 2e Cytherea is called out as the chief architect of something, anything, her position in this regard is highly dubious for it.

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