Dragon Blooded Kickstarter starts on the 27th.

[The Wizard of Oz]

Yeah, that was the case in the old editions. The Immaculate Philosophy does conflate them, as do its adherants (the monks less than the laity).

I should say, the names of the Immaculate Dragons are the same as the Elemental Dragons. Or rather, the Immaculate Dragons thought up by the Immaculates and Sidereals during the Shogunate were named after the Elemental Dragons, in order to benefit from the already-existing Dragon veneration of many Dragonblood.

[Isator Levi]

In addition to what's in the core, the DB book seems to conflate the Immaculate Dragons and Elemental Dragons to a large degree, to the point where they use the Immaculate names for the Elemental Dragons. I don't know if this was how it was in previous editions.

That's what Second Edition did, but where in Third have the Elemental Dragons been named at all?

[Dex Davican]

I should say, the names of the Immaculate Dragons are the same as the Elemental Dragons. Or rather, the Immaculate Dragons thought up by the Immaculates and Sidereals during the Shogunate were named after the Elemental Dragons, in order to benefit from the already-existing Dragon veneration of many Dragonblood.

I had thought it was the reverse.

[Blaque]

That's what Second Edition did, but where in Third have the Elemental Dragons been named at all?

Not that I'm aware of? Even in the curretn DB book, it looks like the names are attributed to the Immaculate Dragons, but not hte Elemental Dragons themsleves, which as beings aren't relaly talked about much.

[Isator Levi]

Oh wow: I've only just looked at the update talking about developer ideas behind the outcastes, and I've got to say that I really like the design of Righteous River. It's stylized and distinctive, but in that verisimilitudous way that I like where it gives a mild impression of being grounded in realism.

It's also nice to know that being an Immaculate monk doesn't need to mean that you aren't stylish.

[Xerxes]

I'm wondering... if we get the T-shirts stretch goal, do we pay for T-shirts through the Kickstarter, or through the T-shirt manufacturer's website? If the former, I'll happily up my pledge now to cover a future spend. Is that how it's been handled before for similar stuff?

[IanWatson]

I'm wondering... if we get the T-shirts stretch goal, do we pay for T-shirts through the Kickstarter, or through the T-shirt manufacturer's website? If the former, I'll happily up my pledge now to cover a future spend. Is that how it's been handled before for similar stuff?

You go to our RedBubble store and buy a shirt from there. We put it at 0% markup, so we're not making anything from the sale*, you're just paying whatever RedBubble's costs are.

*Unless you're also taking the opportunity to pick up one of our other fine products, of course.

[nalak42]

So we're almost at the new bookmarks in the deluxe, which means more stretch goals should be forthcoming.

So if I have the count right then Prasad and the cadet houses still need to get their second expansion. After that what are you all hoping to see?

[glamourweaver]

1) all those sections to get another expansion

2) add martial arts styles to Heirs

3) i’m assuming expanding the novella is in the cards

4) maybe get writeups for some relevant gods of the Isle, Prasad, etc?

[The Unsung Hero]

1) Charm cards. Those have been incredibly useful to my group and even if I just had a template where I could fill them in myself, they're just way better than a book or the line you get on a character sheet.

2) Cloth map addon. I can't have too many maps of Creation and we need a zoom of the Blessed Isle. Also I want more physical addons that I can use to raise my pledge to contribute more with a tangible reward.

3) I'll agree with glamourweaver with more Martial Arts. At least 1 or 2.

4) More generic (non-weapon/armor) Artifacts. Hearthstones. Arms gave us a great new take on these items and I want to see more, perhaps examples that are common among the Realm or Lookshy.

5) Artifact Weapons, Armor, and a Warstrider.

[Weimann]

I really liked the paybump stretch goals from the Corebook KS. It seems like a nice sentiment, as I don’t think RPG development pays very well in general.

[Mizu]

I wouldn't mind that kind of stretch goal either, though I'm not sure if Kickstarter likes stretch goals that are 'the money goes right into our personal pockets' or not. Has it been used in any of the other Onyx Path kickstarters?

[Isator Levi]

I wouldn't mind that kind of stretch goal either, though I'm not sure if Kickstarter likes stretch goals that are 'the money goes right into our personal pockets' or not. Has it been used in any of the other Onyx Path kickstarters?

The original Exalted Kickstarted made giving the writers a bonus a stretch goal.

Strictly speaking, it would not be what you're describing, because the writers and developers of this book aren't running the Kickstarter; Rich is. My impression is that he would not get any such money.

[Stephen Lea Sheppard]

New stretch goal at $221k is up.

[MoroseMorgan]

New stretch goal at $221k is up.

"REALM EXPANSION #1: War in the West – A section dealing with the impending war between House Peleps and House V’neef "

Huh, I did not see that coming. Neat!