Alchemicals and 3E

[Isator Levi]

Another example: Autochthonians have sophisticated electronics such as fiber optic cable... that they harvest from wild animals like wool (well, wild elementals, but still).

I think you might be conflating some things; the only reference that I can recall to something being harvested from elementals like wool was the Autochthonians' wool.

Actually, I think it might have been cotton. Some textile for the sake of making clothes and handkerchiefs.

They use refined hydrocarbons... that are harvested from whales (well, whale-refineries).

Is this distinct from real life in the sense that the hydrocarbons they get are supposed to come already refined, or is there somewhere in the world widely using synthetic hydrocarbons?

[Simon Darkstep]

I think an Autobot zone where the residents mine away junk to expose the naturally occurring factory formations would be a fascinating location for a Chronicle to visit.

[Fitter Happier]

I think an Autobot zone where the residents mine away junk to expose the naturally occurring factory formations would be a fascinating location for a Chronicle to visit.

I love this! Populat workers with power drills, tearing up twisted sheets of metal decking to access the buried manufactory. A Jade Caste Alchemical sockets herself into the facility's power core and it clanks to life, furnaces glowing dull red, then bright orange, then white. The Populat begin to feed the torn-up decking into wide-mouthed hoppers, while others rush to the assembly lines as molten metal bubbles over and flows to fill the waiting casts. The chant of work-prayers and the thunder of industry combine in a song pleasing to the Machine-God.

[Lioness]

I'm kind of with Fitter with regard views on Autochthonian technology.
That's where I was going with the Industrial Elementals, make them a fact of day to day life rather than a bestiary of summonable creatures unique to the Alchemical Exalted that's never going to be adequately fleshed out. For example, what if a unit of elite mortals instead of having special artifact armour were more likely to be partnered with elementals that bonded with human host and offered defensive benefits like Perronele or Sesselja? You have the aesthetic of advanced technology but the reality is more of a symbiosis.

[The Hug Ninja]

I love Autochthonia and Alchemicals but I wish there was a way to include those elements without it invariably dictating the direction of the game. It's interesting because Conan the Barbarian can meet an alien and Elric of Melniboné can travel to other worlds without fundimentally changing their stories while first contact with Autochthonia tends to feel like a point of no return.

Has anyone encountered a way to avoid this?
Is the problem specific elements of Autochthonia or a cotroversial introductory scenario that they've not completely evolved past?

[Isator Levi]

I love Autochthonia and Alchemicals but I wish there was a way to include those elements without it invariably dictating the direction of the game. It's interesting because Conan the Barbarian can meet an alien and Elric of Melniboné can travel to other worlds without fundimentally changing their stories while first contact with Autochthonia tends to feel like a point of no return.

Has anyone encountered a way to avoid this?
Is the problem specific elements of Autochthonia or a cotroversial introductory scenario that they've not completely evolved past?

I propose developing a scenario in which access to Creation is limited in scope and availability, so they can only initially get in small expeditionary forces that ought to have specific objectives.

[pcontop]

For instance, the 'portal' Creation-Autochtonia could be:

- An 'artifact' portal developed autochton-side independently by a small think-tank of researchers, being (as of now) prohibitively expensive to use in large-scale. They should have their own reasons for not giving this information to one of the Nations, be it fear of being called heretics, or political, or even personal reasons. Perhaps they are from a lost colony somewhere completely inhospitable and isolated, the portal is a way for survival and this type of portal just won't work anywhere else?
- An 'artifact' portal developed creation-side, an ancient backdoor portal could be left behind in an abondoned workshop of a True Genius (be it solar, authochton's himself or something else altogether - perhaps the Mountain Folk have being given this charge?).
- It could be a celestial level spell or protocol, rare and just developed (solar circle if you would want only solars). Of course, it wouldn't be able to allow too many people at once. Perhaps you'd also need something from the other side for it to work, restricting even more the access (at first).

[BrilliantRain]

For instance, the 'portal' Creation-Autochtonia could be:

- An 'artifact' portal developed autochton-side independently by a small think-tank of researchers, being (as of now) prohibitively expensive to use in large-scale. They should have their own reasons for not giving this information to one of the Nations, be it fear of being called heretics, or political, or even personal reasons. Perhaps they are from a lost colony somewhere completely inhospitable and isolated, the portal is a way for survival and this type of portal just won't work anywhere else?
- An 'artifact' portal developed creation-side, an ancient backdoor portal could be left behind in an abondoned workshop of a True Genius (be it solar, authochton's himself or something else altogether - perhaps the Mountain Folk have being given this charge?).
- It could be a celestial level spell or protocol, rare and just developed (solar circle if you would want only solars). Of course, it wouldn't be able to allow too many people at once. Perhaps you'd also need something from the other side for it to work, restricting even more the access (at first).

Or maybe the experimental Elsewhere Gate exploded. https://keychain.patternspider.net/archive/koc0133.html

[Sunder the Gold]

Anyone watch the anime, Cells at Work?

[Kyeudo]

Anyone watch the anime, Cells at Work?

I've heard of it, but it sounded like an anime version of Osmosis Jones. What reminded you of Alchemicals?

[Sunder the Gold]

I've heard of it, but it sounded like an anime version of Osmosis Jones. What reminded you of Alchemicals?

For one thing, the aesthetic is "industrial-urban" rather than "everything is made of flesh", which makes it much more compatible with Autochthonia's aesthetics.

All of the people are living in a world which is actually the body of a greater being vastly beyond their comprehension, serving vital roles in the biology of this massive entity which cannot distinguish or recognize them as individuals, and fighting off and exterminating things which invade their word and subvert their own kind against them, as well as sometimes their own kind simply going crazy and needing to be put down.

[Simon Darkstep]

For one thing, the aesthetic is "industrial-urban" rather than "everything is made of flesh", which makes it much more compatible with Autochthonia's aesthetics.

All of the people are living in a world which is actually the body of a greater being vastly beyond their comprehension, serving vital roles in the biology of this massive entity which cannot distinguish or recognize them as individuals, and fighting off and exterminating things which invade their word and subvert their own kind against them, as well as sometimes their own kind simply going crazy and needing to be put down.

I picked up on it too. Cells at Work strikes me as Alchemicals-the-Anime but dressed up for educational television.

[Sunder the Gold]

I picked up on it too. Cells at Work strikes me as Alchemicals-the-Anime but dressed up for educational television.

So far, the Macrophages seem to be the closest thing to Alchemical Exalted in terms of relative power, while the White Blood Cells and T Cells are mortal first responders.

The cell that uses Anti Bodies is a sorcerer, whether mortal or Alchemical.

[Simon Darkstep]

So far, the Macrophages seem to be the closest thing to Alchemical Exalted in terms of relative power, while the White Blood Cells and T Cells are mortal first responders.

The cell that uses Anti Bodies is a sorcerer, whether mortal or Alchemical.

Nice

I'd been imagining all the white blood cells and T-cells as taking an exalted role in the story, even if the relative values of population and power level would have to be adjusted to fit.

[Sunder the Gold]

Nice

I'd been imagining all the white blood cells and T-cells as taking an exalted role in the story, even if the relative values of population and power level would have to be adjusted to fit.

Maybe the Macrophages are the Colossi?

That's definitely the size difference in real life.



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