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  • Just for fun: Autochthonian Dragon-Blooded

    The premise: as the Great Maker is gathering His people and preparing to depart Creation, a few hundred Dragon-Blooded are caught up in the evacuation. Maybe they have reasons to want to join the Autochthonians, maybe they have reasons to want to leave Creation behind; doesn't matter.

    Would their descendants still be attuned to the elements of Creation (earth, air, water, fire, wood); or, in succeeding generations, would the Autochthonians start to see Lightning Aspects, Crystal Aspects, etc? Would Autochthon still have created the Alchemicals, or would these new Terrestrials serve as the champions of the Eight Nations? What strange Charms would they wield?

  • #2
    Ooh, I actually had a go at doing something like this a while back. Let me dig it up:

    When Autochthon fled Creation, he took with him a selection of mortal followers to aid him and provide a source of prayers. Some of these individuals possessed the blood of the dragons. Sealed off from creation, however, the sparks within them could not ignite without the aid of their progenitor.

    Over the next few centuries, this unrealised divine potential built and mutated with the populace of the machine god, until finally it re-emerged in an altered state. Aligned with the six elements of Autochthonia, these new Machine Blooded, or Autochthonic Exalted, caused a stir in the Eight Nations. They were clearly blessed by the great maker, but at the same time their creation was wild and unpredictable. Many saw it as a boon, and welcomed them as Champions to serve alongside the Alchemical exalted. Some machine blooded accepted this role, but others rejected it. Free of the vats, they wandered into the wilds of Autochonia to live a life free of constraints. Other Machine Blooded were born in the wastes to outcast tribes, where they quickly rose to prominence. Others still fight alongside apostate alchemicals.

    Machine Blooded are mechanically very similar to their Dragon Blooded ancestors. They have an elemental aura, must purchase excellencies and start at essence 2. They may only purchase Man-Machine protocols (terrestrial circle sorcery) and any martial arts they use are constrained by the Terrestrial keyword. They can learn the elemental dragon styles, and even benefit from the aura effects of the same, but the only way for them to enter the auras of creation's elements is via the charms of the style.

    Nobody in autochthonia knows the elemental dragon styles, of course, so thus far this potential has gone unrealised. By the same token, it would be theoretically possible for sidereal sifus to work with the machine born and create dragon styles that resonate with their native elements, but nobody ever has.



    I also came up with aspect abilities:

    Aspect Abilities:
    Metal: Craft, Resistance, Melee, Integrity, Bureaucracy
    Oil: Craft, Sail, Brawl, Socialise, Survival
    Smoke: Craft, War, Stealth, Larceny, Investigation
    Crystal: Craft, Occult, Lore, Linguistics, Medicine
    Steam: Craft, Thrown, Athletics, Presence, Ride
    Lightning: Craft, Archery, Performance, Awareness, Dodge


    My solution to splitting 25 abilities over 6 aspects was to give everyone craft, cos it's Authochthonia.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hakkonen View Post

      Would their descendants still be attuned to the elements of Creation (earth, air, water, fire, wood); or, in succeeding generations, would the Autochthonians start to see Lightning Aspects, Crystal Aspects, etc?
      I mean, if going by the underlying mythology, they're still going to be descendants of the Chosen of the Five Elemental Dragons.

      Originally posted by Hakkonen
      Would Autochthon still have created the Alchemicals, or would these new Terrestrials serve as the champions of the Eight Nations?
      He'd probably still want Exalted selected according to his values.


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      • #4
        I've speculated that the Caul's pilgrimage might have been something established by the Elemental Dragons to create the first generation of Dragon-Blooded. If you ran with that then Autochthonia could have somewhere similar that's been discovered recently enough that Dragon-Blooded dynasties aren't really a thing yet.


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        • #5
          What, you mean the first dragon blooded were children mortals who completed the pilgrimage?

          I dunno, that seems inefficient.

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          • #6
            Why would they have to be children?


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lioness View Post
              I've speculated that the Caul's pilgrimage might have been something established by the Elemental Dragons to create the first generation of Dragon-Blooded.
              I like to think that the pilgrimage is something the ancient Dragon Blooded developed to harness the mythology of their origin and the sanctity of the isle, but that the original journey to gather in the presence of the Elemental Dragons on the Caul was rougher and more informal.

              I have this whole idea in which First Age mythological narratives of it ascribe some elaborate speech to the Dragons that is very affirmative of their new Exalted, whereas the few people who've actually met the Elemental Dragons find the idea distinctly out of character, and speculate that the first Terrestrial Exalted encountered their patrons in a manner conveying a lot of confusion and terror, before the creatures departed without a word and the new Exalted had to figure out a lot of things about themselves on their own.

              I've been thinking for a while that the thing to emphasize about the Dragons, if there's ever a basis to explore the nature of any Exalt's patrons, is that they don't talk to anybody and their motives are a complete mystery. That can lead to how and why their Exalted are so different from the Celestials, without an idea that they're distinctly weaker than the Incarnae.

              That and I like the idea that, with the Divine Revolution, they just kind of interjected with their own Exalted without any particular consultation with the gods; in acting as their intermediary, the best that Luna could get out of Gaia on the whys of it were that they had been decent enough to ask their mother for permission, before going ahead with it.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lioness View Post
                Why would they have to be children?
                Children of mortals.

                Cos, like, that's how most people are born. As babies.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Elfive View Post
                  Children of mortals.

                  Cos, like, that's how most people are born. As babies.
                  Yeah, that would just not really be the best way to go about. Even if this premise happened I don't think the dragon blooded would change. I don't think they'd mutate but if they did their charms would be a 1 for 1 and most dragon blooded would just more resistance. It would probably be mandatory. .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Elfive View Post
                    Children of mortals.

                    Cos, like, that's how most people are born. As babies.
                    Yeah, that would just not really be the best way to go about. Even if this premise happened I don't think the dragon blooded would change. I don't think they'd mutate but if they did their charms would be a 1 for 1 and most dragon blooded would just more resistance. It would probably be mandatory. .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Elfive View Post
                      Children of mortals.

                      Cos, like, that's how most people are born. As babies.
                      No.
                      Why can't there have been a point where completing the journey made a mortal exalt as a Dragon-Blooded? The pilgrimage hasn't always been the same way given that the Air Shrine presumably existed at some point.


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                      • #12
                        Ohhh, you meant the mortal themselves would become the dragon blooded.

                        That still feels inefficient, but hey, it could be a good way to shore up the numbers and ensure they couldn't be wiped out.

                        Hell, maybe it still does that if a mortal completes the pilgrimage. I got the impression the Realm only let deebs try.

                        But anyway, this is getting off topic. The issue is whether the power of the Elemental Dragons could permeate the Seal of Eight Divinities, and since celestial exaltations can't, I'm inclined to doubt that it could.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Elfive View Post
                          The issue is whether the power of the Elemental Dragons could permeate the Seal of Eight Divinities, and since celestial exaltations can't, I'm inclined to doubt that it could.
                          So what, Authochthon passes into Elsewhere with some Dragon Blooded in his bowels, and the Seal of Eight Divinities filters the progenitive Essence out of them?

                          Those new Exalted aren't coming from the Elemental Dragons.


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                          • #14
                            I'm unsure if the autochthonian elements are distinct enough from creation's elements to make the new dragon-bloods feel distinct enough. How different would their charms be?

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                            • #15
                              I think that if one is going to use the different elements, then they ought to be approached in a distinct way, and that makes me think that it's not really effective to do it with the Dragon Blooded. It's a large overhaul, that has a certain sense that their original thesis is flimsy, superficial, easily switched around.

                              They wouldn't really end up feeling like Dragon Blooded, I think. One could conceive of Exalted with Aspects of Lightning, Steam, Smoke, Oil, Metal and Crystal, but I'd think you'd want to build them from the ground up rather than just have something functioning almost identically to the Dragon Blooded.

                              Really, with elements like that and the environment they're in, probably still ought to be some kind of artificial Exalted.

                              Dragon Blooded aren't going to just change for it, because their elements aren't something that's coming from outside of them.


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