Exiled from Existence: The Retconian

[HamSandLich]

The Realm makes no mention of the Immaculate Paragons in 3e, it appears that the Mouth of Piece is slightly less of a figurehead(at least institutionally, Kejak's still pulling the strings)

[The Wizard of Oz]

This thread was started to list various characters who’s roll has been canonically replaced(we for instance have a new solar mate for Lilith, and a new Central God of War.) I haven’t heard of either of these Yozi, although I think I saw the great tentacle one as a home brew charm tree.

The Great Tentacled One was mentioned in... Dreams maybe? It lived in the White Sea, IIRC, so the Solars drained and dammed the sea and it choked to death. I guess it's not very magical-sounding.

[The Wizard of Oz]

The Realm makes no mention of the Immaculate Paragons in 3e, it appears that the Mouth of Piece is slightly less of a figurehead(at least institutionally, Kejak's still pulling the strings)

I didn't notice that, good catch.

[Lioness]

I'm actually a little bummed about no Lilun. I was hoping for something new and positive that she could have going for her.

Yeah, I get that.

[HamSandLich]

The way Heysha saves Lilun in RoTSE is really heartwarming, in part because we see an Exalt doing something heroic that doesn't involve punching. Though I agree with Lioness that Lilun's overall concept is a bit too extreme.

[HamSandLich]

Really minor character, but it appears that Thorns' Puppet King is no more, having been replaced by blind deathknight and "Man in the Iron Mask"-reference Red Iron Rebuke as regent of Thorns in Mask of Winters' stead.

[TheCountAlucard]

Red Iron Rebuke is a reference to Nine Princes in Amber.

[HamSandLich]

Red Iron Rebuke is a reference to Nine Princes in Amber.

Really? Given the whole, "long lost brother of the autocrat" schtick and the fact that Thorns has a stereotypically "parisian artiste" culture I though he was a shout out to Voltaire's theory that The Man in the Iron Mask was Louis XIV's illegitimate brother

[Iceblade44]

I think I remember from one of Vances Discord posts that it was unlikely that they would talk about Nox again this edition or that's what I remember.

[Lioness]

I think I remember from one of Vances Discord posts that it was unlikely that they would talk about Nox again this edition or that's what I remember.

Makes sense. Oversight wasn't popular and why step on the toes of people who want to include Nocturnals?

[squidheadjax]

Huh, looking through The Realm, it may seem that I was wrong about Sesus Chenow being an example of a disappointment to 3e House Sesus, if anything, they'd view him as a special asset:

Huh. I guess my Sesus Midora really does fit in, having helped a Ragara Satrap send a Ledaal general off to embarrass himself/die (while sleeping with said general's sister), helped violently suppress dissent in An-Teng (and kinda walked off with that old artifact crown as a costume piece), and completely destabilized the satrap triumvirate in the Lap to wedge in advantage for Sesus and Cynis. She'd still be severely put off by the Chenow household though.

[Iceblade44]

Makes sense. Oversight wasn't popular and why step on the toes of people who want to include Nocturnals?

Yeah I think that was the reasons Vance said was why they wouldn't bring up those stuff up again, in official material anyway

[Lioness]

An idea I've considered for Nocturnals that I can share now the veil of secrecy around the Getimians has fallen a little. Instead of being entombed in the Loom of Fate, Nox might not actually 'exist' (potentially because he was erased before or during the Primordial War) and be trying to correct that by exalting people who have thwarted destinies.

[HamSandLich]

Nox(in his best Coyote impression voice): I DO NOT EXIST

Random Nocturnal(unimpressed):...can I go home now?

Nox: hahahaha! No!

[marin]

An idea I've considered for Nocturnals that I can share now the veil of secrecy around the Getimians has fallen a little. Instead of being entombed in the Loom of Fate, Nox might not actually 'exist' (potentially because he was erased before or during the Primordial War) and be trying to correct that by exalting people who have thwarted destinies.

If anyone would be able to pull something like that off, it'd be the Incarna of Possibilities