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  • Sticks
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    The Worst Lunar Totems

    Hey all, I had this thought while browsing Wikipedia when I couldn’t sleep. What would be the worst lunar animal totems? Think of animals that are impractical, gross, or in such an evolutionary niche that they cannot be played (nor would any sane person wish to play them).

    I’ll start us off with these little guy/gals.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizocephala

  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post

    The funny thing is, pandas are barely adapted to eating bamboo. They still have a carnivorous digestive tract, and can only just about digest cellulose via gut flora that they populate themselves with by eating their mother's faeces. They barely derive calories from it, hence why they're a fairly lethargic animal.

    Apparently, they eat bamboo because a random mutation shut off the taste receptors for meat, and they just happened to be around abundant plants that would have been the only thing flavourful to them.

    So they barely adapted enough to have not starved to death, and otherwise coasted by on lack of natural predators.

    Nature is full of mistakes.
    The background mutation rate is a hell of a drug.

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  • Isator Levi
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    Originally posted by The Wizard of Oz View Post
    No, the worst totem is the one that's fully adapted to something that you're very unlikely to require skill in; eating bamboo.
    That being the panda.
    The funny thing is, pandas are barely adapted to eating bamboo. They still have a carnivorous digestive tract, and can only just about digest cellulose via gut flora that they populate themselves with by eating their mother's faeces. They barely derive calories from it, hence why they're a fairly lethargic animal.

    Apparently, they eat bamboo because a random mutation shut off the taste receptors for meat, and they just happened to be around abundant plants that would have been the only thing flavourful to them.

    So they barely adapted enough to have not starved to death, and otherwise coasted by on lack of natural predators.

    Nature is full of mistakes.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Aliasi View Post
    First off, clearly the people saying "Dung beetle" have never played Hollow Knight.



    Seriously, this guy. Rolls around like crazy and throws boulders of dung at you as an attack.

    And while I'm serious - no totem is going to be absolutely terrible, since you can choose how it might manifest in HBT. Any winged insect will at least be valid for wings, that parasite-crab-thing is still valid for carapace, and so on. You might not use your spirit shape as often as other Lunars, that's all.

    Some totems are definitely not very charismatic or stylish, though. Like... any nematode.
    Nematodes are also too tiny to be totems, though.

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  • Hark
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    Originally posted by The Wizard of Oz View Post
    No, the worst totem is the one that's fully adapted to something that you're very unlikely to require skill in; eating bamboo.
    That being the panda.
    What Totemic charms does Panda even let you access?
    Panda does seem to fall solidly into the category of animals that seem like they are actively trying to go extinct, but I think Koalas have them beat. Koalas have super specific diets, it's so low in nutrients that the koala has little choice but to be either eating or sleeping and it grinds their teeth down to the point that they eventually starve to death. The only thing Koalas seem to be good at is getting chlamydia.

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  • Ulthwithian
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    Originally posted by JohnDoe244 View Post
    Dung beetles go well on sushi?
    Sorry, I guess I had a run-on sentence. I was saying Dung Beetle seemed pretty bad (one thought), and that unagi in terms of usefulness as a totem seemed pretty limited to 'good on sushi'. (Sure, it can presumably work well underwater, but there are other better ones.)

    TheWizardOfOz: Oh, I definitely agree. I was trying to point out that the Lunars I'm playing with don't have anything close to 'bad' totems, and so my experience with this was limited, and thus to take my ideas later (dung beetle and unagi) with a grain of salt. Or pepper, if you prefer.



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  • Aliasi
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    First off, clearly the people saying "Dung beetle" have never played Hollow Knight.



    Seriously, this guy. Rolls around like crazy and throws boulders of dung at you as an attack.

    And while I'm serious - no totem is going to be absolutely terrible, since you can choose how it might manifest in HBT. Any winged insect will at least be valid for wings, that parasite-crab-thing is still valid for carapace, and so on. You might not use your spirit shape as often as other Lunars, that's all.

    Some totems are definitely not very charismatic or stylish, though. Like... any nematode.

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  • Baaldam
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    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post
    I think metamorphosis is unusual enough as a biological mechanism that it could get some of its own rules as regards spirit shapes. My gut says that larvae are distinct mythologically, and thus valid as totems irrespective of age (nor is metamorphosis a necessity).

    Must admit i'm of two minds on the subject too - while from a biological standdpoint it's kind of separating age stages, it's also that Creation does not quite follow linnean standards of organization and metamorphosis & change have has certain folkloric/mythic milleage for certain. That said, could it not be covered as species-only "animal power", like, i don't know the mythic asssociation of snakes with eternal youth/renewwal due to the periodic shedding of skins, for example?

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  • Isator Levi
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    I think metamorphosis is unusual enough as a biological mechanism that it could get some of its own rules as regards spirit shapes. My gut says that larvae are distinct mythologically, and thus valid as totems irrespective of age (nor is metamorphosis a necessity).

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  • The Wizard of Oz
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    Or teens.

    I think it'd be quite cool to, say, be a Casteless caterpillar-totem Lunar (focus on camouflage and poison) and then at some point (when you are bored of that) transition to a glorious butterfly-totem Changing Moon.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by JohnDoe244
    Don't forget having a sweet direlance.



    Well, that or a backup diamond tree wooden sword...



    Originally posted by Baaldam View Post


    That would make more sense for a library shape, i guess. As you said yourself, a maggot is simply the larval stage of a fly, it ain't a creature on its own.
    I've often wondered if that would be something that might crop up with child characters.

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  • Baaldam
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    Originally posted by nalak42 View Post
    What about a maggot? I mean I could see them being respected or feared in a culture as a sign of decay, death, and rot. Still would be a problem to find out your spirit totem is a larval state.

    That would make more sense for a library shape, i guess. As you said yourself, a maggot is simply the larval stage of a fly, it ain't a creature on its own.

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  • JohnDoe244
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    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

    Keying your horse totem up as a centaur may lead to adoption of archery, terrible archery accidents firing an arrow out of reflex, and being voiced by Sugita Tomokazu.
    Don't forget having a sweet direlance.

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  • Sticks
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    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post

    Which other animal can lift things over its head again?
    Apes, crustaceans, some insects, but I see your point.

    Putting yourself in a larval stage hadn’t occurred to me. There are some pretty neat caterpillars that would make fun totems.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by The Wizard of Oz View Post
    Turning into a flying Tyrant Lizard or taking centaur on your HBR? (Not to mention the enormous speed bonus.) Those are some power totems.
    Keying your horse totem up as a centaur may lead to adoption of archery, terrible archery accidents firing an arrow out of reflex, and being voiced by Sugita Tomokazu.

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