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  • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
    Or, bear with me here, since the alien technology fell into human hands decades back, the OS isn't incompatible because it was reverse-engineered from the alien tech? Like, Independence Day and Michael Bay's Transformers are kinda dumb in a number of regards (particularly with regard to race), but our technology being compatible with theirs because we reverse-engineered it to be, is a lot more sensible than having it be compatible in a world where we haven't had our hands on a piece of their tech for decades.
    Urm.... there's a solar lore charm that lets you connect irregardless of OS.

    Or, just spitballing here, your ability to lead troops isn't strictly a factor of your age, since teenagers have led fights against invaders in our real-world history?
    I was referring to the YA tendency for teenagers to lead and do shit that no one else could do, even though lots of other guys are around that could have done what they did better. Why? Well, in this case, its because he's dragonblooded.

    Can you provide me an example of a real advanced civilization that doesn't fuck up? I'm not convinced that that's a thing.
    Fuck up more than usual. It's pretty hard for the British Empire to lose to natives who haven't even invented steel yet.
    Lunars lack the capacity to transform into aliens.
    Tell me something. Are you being purposely obtuse here?

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    • Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
      Urm.... there's a solar lore charm that lets you connect irregardless of OS.
      I get that. But I'm saying, at least in the context of the movies you're bringing up, is that it's not necessary.

      Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
      Fuck up more than usual. It's pretty hard for the British Empire to lose to natives who haven't even invented steel yet.
      So, what, we're just going to ignore the Zulu?

      Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
      Tell me something. Are you being purposely obtuse here?
      No, I am sincerely informing you that Lunars can assume human and animal shapes. They don't get to turn into aliens. I don't know that you don't know that, because you have a history of inconsistency with knowledge of the Exalted setting.

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      • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
        I know that. That's why I said 'pretty hard'. That's not something you see everyday.

        British Empire failing to defeat the Zulus is kinda unusual. Usually the guys with gunpowder and steel win.

        No, I am sincerely informing you that Lunars can assume human and animal shapes. They don't get to turn into aliens. I don't know that you don't know that, because you have a history of inconsistency with knowledge of the Exalted setting.



        Stop. Lunars can get knacks, right? Lunars can get charms to turn into trees, insects, mice, or behemoths, or demons, or fae, or ghosts, right? Or it is completely in theme for them to be able to do it, right?

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        • Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
          British Empire failing to defeat the Zulus is kinda unusual. Usually the guys with gunpowder and steel win.
          History is full of nuance; it's hardly ever so simple as "Who has the steel? Who has the gunpowder?"

          Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
          Stop. Lunars can get knacks, right?
          Not in 3e, no.

          Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
          Lunars can get charms to turn into trees, insects, mice, or behemoths, or demons, or fae, or ghosts, right?
          Only mice and insects, this time 'round. And even in editions that had Knacks, that was still something they had to develop and then buy with XP, which means it's not something you should necessarily expect a given Lunar to be capable of.

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          • Alright, fine. I'll agree with you on the Lunars thing. I'll just leave them out of the main events. It's not like that changes anything. I'll give up on the guns and steel thing too.

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            • Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
              Alright, fine. I'll agree with you on the Lunars thing. I'll just leave them out of the main events.
              This, on the other hand, is doing a disservice to the Lunars. Just because they can't assume the shape of an alien, doesn't mean they can't serve as infiltrators. For instance, if the aliens are using human labor to mine, a Lunar could scout their asteroid base in the form of a rat or insect, and then foster an insurrection among the miners in a human shape, sharing the knowledge they gathered.

              Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
              It's not like that changes anything.
              Once again, the problem is in the nuance you're ignoring.

              Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
              I'll give up on the guns and steel thing too.
              I'm not asking you to give up; I'm asking you to understand.
              Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 02-13-2020, 07:12 AM.

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              • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                This, on the other hand, is doing a disservice to the Lunars. Just because they can't assume the shape of an alien, doesn't mean they can't serve as infiltrators. For instance, if the aliens are using human labor to mine, a Lunar could scout their asteroid base in the form of a rat or insect, and then foster an insurrection among the miners in a human shape, sharing the knowledge they gathered.
                I apologise. I was making a joke on how Lunars in 2e tend to get a bit shafted, you know, not really doing much in the game's backstory.

                I'm not asking you to give up; I'm asking you to understand.

                Oh no, I get it, really. I mean, I know that its not all that simple. Sometimes the invaders were beaten back, and sometimes they were forced to pay terrible prices. I know that some places forced the Imperial invaders to respect the natives. But the thing is, the trend is still there. I mean, look at America and Canada right now, and what happened to the native populations... Yeah, they can certainly beat them back. But it really fucking sucks for the native population. The Empires didn't crumble, not for quite some time. And only after lots of death and suffering.

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                • Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
                  I was making a joke on how Lunars in 2e tend to get a bit shafted, you know, not really doing much in the game's backstory.
                  Careful about that now; some are still really salty about that.

                  Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
                  Oh no, I get it, really. I mean, I know that its not all that simple. Sometimes the invaders were beaten back, and sometimes they were forced to pay terrible prices. I know that some places forced the Imperial invaders to respect the natives. But the thing is, the trend is still there. I mean, look at America and Canada right now, and what happened to the native populations... Yeah, they can certainly beat them back. But it really fucking sucks for the native population. The Empires didn't crumble, not for quite some time. And only after lots of death and suffering.
                  For a "powerful individual shows up and helps a people to challenge a technologically superior empire" narrative that probably feels a bit more "real," I'd look at Avatar: the Last Airbender. Having the Avatar show up didn't make the Fire Nation crumble overnight.

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                  • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                    Careful about that now; some are still really salty about that.

                    For a "powerful individual shows up and helps a people to challenge a technologically superior empire" narrative that probably feels a bit more "real," I'd look at Avatar: the Last Airbender. Having the Avatar show up didn't make the Fire Nation crumble overnight.
                    Yes, I've seen Avatar, the Last Airbender. But I don't quite think its a good fit.

                    For one thing, the technological difference is of a lesser degree

                    Secondly, Aang's powers are different from those of the Exalted

                    Thirdly, there are multiple Exalted.

                    And more.

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                    • I'm not saying it's a perfect fit - just that it fits better than Jeff Goldblum, Randy Quaid and Will Smith defeating an army of aliens in one fell swoop after getting their nuts stomped for three-quarters of the movie.

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                      • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                        I'm not saying it's a perfect fit - just that it fits better than Jeff Goldblum, Randy Quaid and Will Smith defeating an army of aliens in one fell swoop after getting their nuts stomped for three-quarters of the movie.
                        Frankly speaking the entire thing shouldn't be a movie. It should be a TV show.

                        More time that way.

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