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  • Accelerator
    started a topic The After-shock war, in the Age of Sorrows

    The After-shock war, in the Age of Sorrows

    Many thanks to Omicron of SB, whom I cant seem to contact

    https://forums.spacebattles.com/thre...#post-12209803

    And to Dr. Love Monkey. Who was so helpful.

    So what was the divergence?

    The first age chugged along, far from war and conflict and pain. Nothing interrupted it. Brigid died in a sorcerous experiment, seeking out a new spell. Then the Usurpation occurred, and all was silent. The Solar Essences were bound, placed within the Jade Prison, and then hidden. The Lunars fled, the Dragonblooded took over, and the Sidereals retreated to Heaven.

    The Rametheus came.

    Perhaps if the Solars were here, they could have stopped him. Perhaps if the Exalted Host worked as one, instead of a dozen disparate factions squabbling and fighting, perhaps they could have seen him first. Perhaps if the infrastructure of the shogunate had been preserved, instead of torn down by squabbling daimyos and irate Lunars, they could have survived. Perhaps if Dragonblooded had posted outposts and had worked together to protect creation, instead of sucking jade out of Creation and focusing on their own pleasures, they could have realized they were under attack. But they didn't, and so doom befell them all.

    The first to realize were the Yozis. With the Unconquered Sun deep in the games, the Sidereals overworked, and no Solars to summon their third circles, nobody realized what the Yozis knew. Rametheus sent an envoy to them, speaking of freedom. Of hope. Of a second chance. Screams and roars came out, but the Yozis, once exiled, agreed assistance. The Deathlords, hearing orders for the first time from their Neverborn masters, came out to assist. There were only a few things left to do.

    First was the destruction of the Exalted Host

    Second, was a secret.

    It started small. A Lunar or so disappeared. A village or two went silent. Slowly, ever so slowly, the things beyond the Blessed Isle went silent. The abilities of the Sidereals were studied, read, and analyzed, and countermeasures were developed to take advantage. The Lunars were picked off, one by one, either taken over by doppelgangers in a mockery of their own abilities, or simply rendered silent. Entire villages were taken over. Forests in the east were rendered into crystal for the new war. Shadowlands were depopulated of ghosts, fettered by devas and forced to learn necromancy. Cults surged. A dozen emissaries flitted from kingdom to kingdom, setting up strife and war between all. Within heaven, infiltrators were unleashed. Hundreds of dispossessed gods, starving and desperate for a handout... it was all too easy.

    Too late, they realied what was happening. Assassins were dispatched, slaying Sidereals and gods alike, using weaknesses and loopholes provided by desperate gods. Cults beckoned first and second circle demons, unleashing them upon Creation, forcing the Wyld Hunt and the Lunars to fight. And even then, it didn't stop, false flag attacks forcing Dragonblooded and Lunar Exalted to fight against one another, Immaculate propaganda and specialized second and third circles forcing them to fight against one another when they should have fought on the same side. The Realm was paralyzed. Dragonblooded, seeking power for their own houses and damning everyone else, had taken bribes and had found themselves corrupted and in a web of blackmail and desperation.

    Rametheus, struck, again and again. Hitting the wounded, striking at the people the Lunars loved most, hitting at Dragonblooded infrastructure. The armies of the Dragonblooded commanders died, not to devas or sorcery, but to disease. Cities which gave out supplies to the armies in the threshold were annihilated the moment the Dragonblooded turned their backs on it by sorcereies such as River of Blood and Cantantas of empty voices, forcing them to split their forces or simply evacuate as the mortals were slain by their tens of thousands. Iron-Skinned-Defender, Lunar, was killed as he tried to protect his people, surrounded from all sides and kept from fleeing by the threat of killing his entire clan. Necromancy raised the ghosts of Sidereals, Dragonblooded, and Lunars, choking out the secrets of Creation's defenders from them. In one portion of the threshold, the skies were darkened by sorcery, and entire armies of zombies marched out, lead by the Mask of Winters, to pillage and consume all that stood in their way.

    With a shudder, the Sidereals realized what was happening. They studied the archives plundered by the traitor gods and studied what was left of their Sidereal compatriots' ghosts. And realized that Rametheus was searching for the Jade Prison. Perhaps he wanted to destroy the Solar Essences once and for all. Perhaps he simply wished to corrupt them to free the Yozis. Whatever he wanted, it couldn't be allowed.

    That was when Rametheus attacked Yu-Shan. The Celestial Lions grunted as they were cut down by an army of Devas, as the armies of Rametheus, the garden of war, marched into Yu-shan. A portion of the Sidereals ran to defend Heaven. Another portion went to stop them from finding the Jade Prison. And another portion betrayed them all, revealing themselves to be Akuma. By this time, half the Sidereals had been slain, killed by ambushes set around fate disruptions.

    On the Blessed Isle, the Sword of Creation fired, again and again and again, each blast slewing tens of thousands of the invaders, but all the while, destroing the blessed isle's geomancy. Entire manses went dark. Fields of crops were turned to dust by the power pushed. And cracks began to appear, as thousands of years of misuse and lack of maintenance lead to the great weapon of creation slowly breaking. The Dragonblooded Host now, at long last, fought as one. Lookshy and Gem and The Realm and Outcastes and everyone else, fighting off incursions by second circle demons, peasant uprisings spurred on by the honeyed words of puppet-devas, and worse.

    In the end, Rametheus found the Jade Prison, despite the Sidereals' precautions, and arrived there. Only to be met by the combined host of Dragonblooded, Lunars, and Sidereals, and the last Solar remaining. The Aerial Legion was deployed, marching upon the host of Rametheus and the demons that have been set loose into Creation proper. The Jadeborn moved there, the last pieces of their artifacts present within the host. There, battle raged on, even as a portion of the Elders of the Exalted Host carried out their last plan.

    Rametheus could not be allowed to take the solar exaltations. Rametheus could not be allowed to exterminate the human race. Rametheus could not be allowed to win. But the Solars were gone, and even if they were here, fighting an entire primordial with zero preparation and support from Autochthon and the Unconquered Sun would be suicide.

    There was only one last thing to do. Exaltations could not be destroyed, but there was a use in sacrifice. And as Rametheus crushed the throat of Chejop Kejack, letting his corpse fall to the ground, it looked up, and beheld the destruction of reality. The Fae, watching from the sidelines, screamed as the felt Order calcifying them. The loom of fate twisted, strained, and snapped, and finally, broke. And the sun shone, through the darkness, as Creation was reordered.

    It was like the Time of Cascading years... but not like it. Time, for the first time since the primordial war, warped, as the past was rewritten and re-ordered. Tens of thousands of worlds, all with a different timeline and a different plane of existence. Between the worlds of man, was the world of the Wyld, Yu-Shan, and the Underworld. Each with their own separate pasts, each with their own separate destinies. And each with their own human populations.

  • JohnDoe244
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    Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
    I apologize.

    What I meant was... Well, it's Ramethus. The Garden of War.

    What kind of vulnerability would he have?
    How about something like this?

    Attrition is Life
    Cost: 1bhl or 1lhl or 1ahl (+4m, +8m)
    Type: Reflexive
    Duration: 1 tick
    Keywords: Combo-OK
    Pre-reqs: Ramethus Cosmic Principle

    When Ramethus is engaged in Mass Combat and would take damage, Ramethus may pay one health level to prevent that damage completely as a Perfect Defense. Paying with a Bashing level prevents all Bashing damage, and renders Ramethus immune to Bashing damage for the tick (including sub-type damage, such as Stunning damage). A Lethal level does the same for Lethal and Bashing damage. An Aggravated level renders Ramethus immune to all damage for one tick. The cost of this Charm counts as a unique Flaw of Invulnerabiltiy.

    If not in Mass Combat, but rolled into battle with Join Battle, Ramethus may pay a 4m surcharge to use this Charm to become immune to damage, and may reflexively force all combatants to roll Join War, converting the fight to Mass Combat.

    Outside of combat entirely, Ramethus may pay an 8m surcharge to use this Charm against any source of damage.

    War is the Crucible
    Cost: 0m (+4m, +8m, +12m)
    Type: Reflexive
    Duration: Instant
    Keywords: Combo-OK
    Pre-reqs: Attrition is Life

    When Ramethus is engaged in Mass Combat, Ramethus may pay 0m to perfectly defend against any effect that would make The Garden of War less effective at combat (apart from health track damage). Such effects include, but are not limited to, Shaping effects, Crippling effects, Compulsion or Servitude effects, and natural or unnatural social influence aimed at convincing Ramethus to stop hostilities. Effects which Ramethus does not defend against (See Unstoppable Force, Immovable Object) and effects which do not reduce Ramethus's combat ability are not valid.

    This Charm may be employed for a +4m surcharge if Ramethus is rolled into battle with Join Battle, or an +8m surcharge if not in combat at all.

    Canny opponents can try to couch their effects in the trappings of war: Ramethus may freely ignore desperate pleas for mercy, but formal calls for cease-fire are a part and parcel of warfare. Defending against attacks stunted as a normal part of warfare carries an additional +4m surcharge, and likely requires Ramethus to spend Willpower and take Limit act against his Intimacy towards Warfare.

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  • Accelerator
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    Originally posted by Tymeaus Jalynsfein View Post
    Can I get a Hell Yeah?
    Hell yeah!

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  • Tymeaus Jalynsfein
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    Can I get a Hell Yeah?

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  • TheCountAlucard
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    Originally posted by Chausse View Post
    I'm totally unsure about this but I believe your use of swear words is not a good idea on this forum.
    Swearing is permitted on the forum when it doesn't break forum rules. For example, you can respect the conversation while swearing; "I think your idea's damn awesome," for example, but if you say "Shit, this discussion's not worth my time," that's disrespecting the conversation and thus against the rules.

    ​"Fuck yeah," not "fuck you."
    Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 02-14-2020, 12:38 PM.

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  • Chausse
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    Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
    Oh no, rest assured, its quite likely that Rametheus goes around throwing 2nd and 3rd circle diseases around for shits and giggles, because well, he's out to play for keeps. It's just that.... Exalted are really fucking hard to kill, and odds are that any exalted who survive would try their best to revive the human race. Dragon blood is so dispersed amongst the human population that pretty much everyone has it, and Lunar and Sidereal exaltations are indestructible and there's no way to catch them.
    I'm totally unsure about this but I believe your use of swear words is not a good idea on this forum.

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  • DrLoveMonkey
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    Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
    Oh no, rest assured, its quite likely that Rametheus goes around throwing 2nd and 3rd circle diseases around for shits and giggles, because well, he's out to play for keeps. It's just that.... Exalted are really fucking hard to kill, and odds are that any exalted who survive would try their best to revive the human race. Dragon blood is so dispersed amongst the human population that pretty much everyone has it, and Lunar and Sidereal exaltations are indestructible and there's no way to catch them.
    I don’t know about the blanket statement that they’re indestructible and impossible to catch. Normally, yes, but this is a world ending Primordial we’re talking about here. Solar exaltations have been captured by Sidereals and twisted by the dead Neverborn and the fallen Yozi into new forms. Neither of those things were done by the Primordials during the Great War, but if dead and imprisoned Primordials can do it I have to assume that a living one could potentially find a way.

    The Solars are already half corrupted and also all young with no infrastructure, so it might start with Sidereals or Lunars. Not to say that it will definitely happen, but it’s not a possibility that should be completely dismissed. Not normally a thing to think about because most enemies in Exalted fall SO short of full power war-focused Prinordial that it’s not really worth the effort.

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  • Accelerator
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    Originally posted by DrLoveMonkey View Post

    No but considering the nature of Exaltation that’s probably a good first step for Rametheus. Maybe it starts by going around wiping out the more isolated and least defended populations first while stoking the fires around the Solar-Lunar-Dragonblooded conflicts. It could probably even enlist some real solid help from the Deathlords and their minions. Maybe even get a hold of the Sword of Creation and shoot it until it breaks.

    I think somewhere it’s said the Sword is capable of destroying all of creation if used that way so you’re pretty good there.
    Oh no, rest assured, its quite likely that Rametheus goes around throwing 2nd and 3rd circle diseases around for shits and giggles, because well, he's out to play for keeps. It's just that.... Exalted are really hard to kill, and odds are that any exalted who survive would try their best to revive the human race. Dragon blood is so dispersed amongst the human population that pretty much everyone has it, and Lunar and Sidereal exaltations are indestructible and there's no way to catch them.
    Last edited by Accelerator; 02-14-2020, 12:21 PM.

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  • DrLoveMonkey
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    Originally posted by Accelerator View Post

    Of course. You can render exaltation useless by making the human race extinct. Good luck with that though.

    But for the purpose of this discussion (trying to undo the derail here) humanity isn't extinct.
    No but considering the nature of Exaltation that’s probably a good first step for Rametheus. Maybe it starts by going around wiping out the more isolated and least defended populations first while stoking the fires around the Solar-Lunar-Dragonblooded conflicts. It could probably even enlist some real solid help from the Deathlords and their minions. Maybe even get a hold of the Sword of Creation and shoot it until it breaks.

    I think somewhere it’s said the Sword is capable of destroying all of creation if used that way so you’re pretty good there.

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  • Accelerator
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    Originally posted by DrLoveMonkey View Post

    Not necessarily, the Exaltations are bound to Creation and Humans. If you get rid of those that’s pretty well the end of them.
    Of course. You can render exaltation useless by making the human race extinct. Good luck with that though.

    But for the purpose of this discussion (trying to undo the derail here) humanity isn't extinct.

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  • DrLoveMonkey
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    Originally posted by The Hug Ninja View Post
    I believe he means The Beyond, like what happened to Prince Laashe.
    I may actually not be thinking god anything from exalted. Maybe from Warhammer?

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  • DrLoveMonkey
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    Originally posted by Accelerator View Post

    Yup. But note, you can't destroy them. And no matter what happened, you can't deal with the fact that exaltation requires free will.

    In other words, exaltation will always be there. Always existing. By all means, lock them away in the deepest, darkest dungeon and throw away the key. There's always the chance they'll get out. And they'll be waiting there for one more spark of heroism to ignite.
    Not necessarily, the Exaltations are bound to Creation and Humans. If you get rid of those that’s pretty well the end of them.

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  • The Hug Ninja
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    I believe he means The Beyond, like what happened to Prince Laashe.

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  • TheCountAlucard
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    Originally posted by DrLoveMonkey View Post
    What am I thinking of then? The space where things go when they never were?
    Are you talking about putting something beyond the boundaries of one or more of the shinma? Because that’s not something you can do just by throwing really hard.

    To put it a little more simply, the shinma are just a flowery way of saying some really obvious stuff about reality and the stuff inside reality (things can exist; things can be identified; things can be in places; things can interact with each other; things cannot be perfect; things can come into conflict with each other) by showing the “things” that don’t follow those rules (Nishkriya cannot come into conflict with anything; Dharma is perfect and unchanging; Nurvikalpa cannot interact with anything; Nirupadhika cannot be anywhere; Nirvishesha has no identity; Nirguna does not exist).

    Very fitting when talking about what some Fair Folk believe. Less useful when talking about stuff taking place anywhere near Creation.
    Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 02-14-2020, 03:43 AM.

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  • Accelerator
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    Originally posted by DrLoveMonkey View Post

    True, you might be able to do something with them though. The Jade prison is a thing that happened. Also the Lunars altered their castes from age to age.
    Yup. But note, you can't destroy them. And no matter what happened, you can't deal with the fact that exaltation requires free will.

    In other words, exaltation will always be there. Always existing. By all means, lock them away in the deepest, darkest dungeon and throw away the key. There's always the chance they'll get out. And they'll be waiting there for one more spark of heroism to ignite.

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