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  • Smaller scale life in Autochthonia?

    In both terms.

    So there's apparently nutrient slurry (according to 1e) and that's all they eat, with the rich and powerful having specialised alchemists to add different textures and flavours. Slurry is nutritious, filling, and doesn't rot. And its also prety goddamned bland.

    Urm... is there no plants? No coffee? No moss? Yes, Autochthon managed to grab a thousand or so mortals, and then also several more tens of thousands from the countyside itself. Was there no grass, no plants, no seeds which were swept up in the chaos and landed there? How about yeast supplies? There are cases where 4500 year old yeast samples was used to create sourdough. Why not that as well? What about rats and cockroaches and fungi? As long as humans exist and these things get a foothold, these can survive. What about moss? Water and mist can be used for sources of water, and light can be obtained from electric lights or arcs of lightning.

    There's probably a Municipial charm there, somewhere, that brews large stocks of alcohol or fake meat for distribution amongst the workers and the theocracy, to boost morale or productivity.

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    Rats explicitly exist.


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Accelerator View Post

      So there's apparently nutrient slurry (according to 1e) and that's all they eat, with the rich and powerful having specialised alchemists to add different textures and flavours. Slurry is nutritious, filling, and doesn't rot. And its also prety goddamned bland.
      I'm not sure whereabouts in First Edition it referred to the idea of rich Autochthonians, but Second Edition adjusted this concept to the idea that the more refined slurries were a slightly more widespread thing that some nations could produce at a scale capable of export, and would be distributed to the populace on special occasions (even if more frequent, but not constant, access is among the privileges of higher class).

      Originally posted by Accelerator
      Urm... is there no plants? No coffee? No moss? Yes, Autochthon managed to grab a thousand or so mortals, and then also several more tens of thousands from the countyside itself. Was there no grass, no plants, no seeds which were swept up in the chaos and landed there? How about yeast supplies? There are cases where 4500 year old yeast samples was used to create sourdough. Why not that as well? What about rats and cockroaches and fungi? As long as humans exist and these things get a foothold, these can survive. What about moss? Water and mist can be used for sources of water, and light can be obtained from electric lights or arcs of lightning.
      Autochthonia is a distinctly inorganic setting (by which I mean that even in its own fiction, it didn't arise naturally). It represents a certain aesthetic, a highly exaggerated world to create a distinct lifestyle. Hence one can assume that things that are not present there are either difficult to make work or contrary to the prevailing ideology.

      Compass: Autochthonia probably created the strongest sense of context for that. Following the logic in that book, one might find the idea that plant life could have been made to survive in Autochthonia for the consumption of its people, but such a thing would represent an intensive use of time and resources that is supposed to be used to sustain the Maker.

      That is why humans are there; God brought them along into his seclusion so that they might perform maintenance on him, and they should be awed and grateful for the privilege. His grace provides you with slurry, so don't yearn for plants and animals that you do not need and would distract from the holy work of sustaining him.

      Their world is defined by scarcity, which is why hardly anybody owns anything personally (and even they don't own much). You go for the option that is the least resource and labour intensive, and get back to the machines.

      Of course, people aren't adhering to this perfectly, they still have needs and a capacity to adapt. But they're the circumstances in which those adaptations are made. Once the door closed behind him, there was no getting at any plants anymore and none had been taken with, so people who wanted something like fruit had to come up with more novel solutions. And the coldest nation, the one that manages to have the fewest people and an abundance of resources, they refine what they have into what is either called coffee or functions as an equivalent.

      And they have rats. They might have more varieties of rat than we do. They breed rats to be cute pets to motivate the child workers.

      Originally posted by Accelerator
      There's probably a Municipial charm there, somewhere, that brews large stocks of alcohol or fake meat for distribution amongst the workers and the theocracy, to boost morale or productivity.
      Possibly. And the character of Autochthonia is that it does not produce enough for everybody that is within reach of it, and probably can't be widely replicated, so procedures are established for the distribution of such things.


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        Nurad is an interesting case. There are "plants" there which absorb slurry and produce "fruit". The state tries to clear them out because they let people live out on the plains and they use up calories compared to eating raw slurry. Nurad also used to have many Creation species like plants and animals in the First Progressive Era, but they were all culled because the destruction of Perygra (sp?) was seen as a sign of displeasure from the Maker.

        Regarding alcohol more generally: I suspect that there is a rather higher consumption of "industrial solvent" and "machine degreaser" than raw projections would indicate and the Plutarchs have learned to look the other way.
        Last edited by Exthalion; 07-21-2020, 02:06 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Exthalion View Post
          Nurad is an interesting case. There are "plants" there which absorb slurry and produce "fruit". The state tries to clear them out because they let people live out on the plains and they use up calories compared to eating raw slurry.
          It reads to me that the ironfruit culling is only a recent development, and has been undertaken in response to Nurad's growing danger of shortages.

          Originally posted by Exthalion
          Regarding alcohol more generally: I suspect that there is a rather higher consumption of "industrial solvent" and "machine degreaser" than raw projections would indicate and the Plutarchs have learned to look the other way.
          There's probably some illicit manufacture sure, but there are enough references to alcohol to suggest that it's also produced deliberately for human consumption.

          I expect that in Autochthonia, they skip over things like fermentation and just produce mixtures of water, ethanol and some simple sugars. It gets the job done well enough sure, but I feel Creation's booze would be a real eye opener.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post

            And they have rats. They might have more varieties of rat than we do. They breed rats to be cute pets to motivate the child workers.
            Also, giant riding rats in Estasia, IIRC, though they're pretty rare.

            There are also cockroaches.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by The Wizard of Oz View Post

              Also, giant riding rats in Estasia, IIRC, though they're pretty rare.
              They're supposed to be extinct by the Time of Tumult.


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