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  • #46
    Originally posted by Isator Levi View Post

    Maybe. Maybe not. Conversation helps to smooth out those bumps to reach understanding.
    Alright, sure. I'm worried about being too redundant, but maybe I'm being too uninformative. Generally speaking I kinda wish that there were more... unconventional types? I'm not quite sure how to say it, but I always liked the concept of the everyman. Not the bland everyman of the isekai novels, but just a normal person, maybe someone who's old, and thought that his story was over, suddenly digging deep down and realizing that there was a core of adamantium inside of him all along, just something he's never had to truly use before. Never truly pushed to that level. Until that day.

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    • #47
      My initial negative reaction was largely not feeling the "until that day" aspect in your initial posts. When you ask about the "doing something" stuff, for me whatever happens in the moments that create "that day" would be the something being done.

      I do heavily agree (which I hope is more clear already) with the idea that Exalted-at-an-older-age characters aren't presented in the books in a fashion that captures a lot of potential or variety, which leaves the ones we get very convention character types.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
        Alright, sure. I'm worried about being too redundant, but maybe I'm being too uninformative. Generally speaking I kinda wish that there were more... unconventional types? I'm not quite sure how to say it, but I always liked the concept of the everyman. Not the bland everyman of the isekai novels, but just a normal person, maybe someone who's old, and thought that his story was over, suddenly digging deep down and realizing that there was a core of adamantium inside of him all along, just something he's never had to truly use before. Never truly pushed to that level. Until that day.
        I think I get you. The kind of story where it's a person who seems normal up until something happens to it and they react in a manner that challenges the idea of normalcy.

        I do think the Caste books depicted some characters such as that. I think a reason they don't spread out so much across the setting is because there's a tendency not to depict Solars coming in upon scenarios because that's a slot they'd sooner leave for players.


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        • #49
          Along those lines, and in contrast to the 3E corebook line "a person of enormous potential who has never had the opportunity to exercise it",

          What about someone with enormous potential who never had the need to exercise it? They lived in one of those rare safe places, or their home had an Exalted or divine protector, and then one day it isn't safe anymore and the town's protector is splattered all over the field. And all the things that person spent their life doing and learning suddenly add up to being able to do something, even if that something is more having courage or determination rather than being the best fighter in the kingdom.


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          • #50
            So as a question, how would that impact character creation? My games tend to be less number crunching and more thematic, so would offering a few more dots for mundane skills and such to show the characters age work?

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            • #51
              Exalted really don't need even more dots at Creation. Ultimately it doesn't have to impact creation rules at all. If you want to do something, I'd suggest a few extra Merit dots probably with some limits on what Merits you can use them on.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Heavy Arms View Post
                Exalted really don't need even more dots at Creation. Ultimately it doesn't have to impact creation rules at all. If you want to do something, I'd suggest a few extra Merit dots probably with some limits on what Merits you can use them on.
                Yeah. More 'backing' and 'face' and 'organisation', to show that this guy's been around for quite a bit.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by NewK View Post
                  So as a question, how would that impact character creation? My games tend to be less number crunching and more thematic, so would offering a few more dots for mundane skills and such to show the characters age work?
                  Don't? Just make your character according to theme?

                  If you are making an 80 year old, maybe don't take Athletics 5. Maybe take a couple of dots of Lore.

                  Instead of a youngster with Fleet of Foot, take Influence to represent your place in the community.


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                  • #54
                    If the character's supposed to have had a fairly colourful life and/or have an interesting family, consider a lore specialty in that.

                    It provides scope to introduce Facts based on your backstory such as hunting down relatives and old acquaintances and ideally if you're consistent with it after a point the ST will be comfortable using that angle to generate new plot.


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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by JohnDoe244 View Post

                      Don't? Just make your character according to theme?

                      If you are making an 80 year old, maybe don't take Athletics 5. Maybe take a couple of dots of Lore.

                      Instead of a youngster with Fleet of Foot, take Influence to represent your place in the community.
                      Worth noting that Hetman Lenurel in Caste Book: Night took a "Why not both?" approach. He explicitly doesn't look athletic, though; padding and a paunch, but he can kung fu fight with the best of them.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                        Worth noting that Hetman Lenurel in Caste Book: Night took a "Why not both?" approach. He explicitly doesn't look athletic, though; padding and a paunch, but he can kung fu fight with the best of them.
                        Oh yeah, totally. I had my PCs throw down with an old bald man with a long white beard and he totally [Yoda/Pai Mei]'d them. The most powerful artifact the players fought over was a walking stick (I mean, granted, it's a walking stick that stops time and makes you immortal).

                        The beauty of Exalted is that you can do whatever you think is cool. Use tropes. Ignore tropes. Invert tropes. Subvert tropes.

                        I just meant that I wouldn't change the character creation rules. Every character gets made using the same rules whether you are 8 or 80.

                        No -4 Str.

                        If you want to play your old character as Str 1, you can, but you shouldn't have to. Likewise, if you want to be Str 5 then go for it.


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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by JohnDoe244 View Post

                          Oh yeah, totally. I had my PCs throw down with an old bald man with a long white beard and he totally [Yoda/Pai Mei]'d them. The most powerful artifact the players fought over was a walking stick (I mean, granted, it's a walking stick that stops time and makes you immortal).

                          The beauty of Exalted is that you can do whatever you think is cool. Use tropes. Ignore tropes. Invert tropes. Subvert tropes.

                          I just meant that I wouldn't change the character creation rules. Every character gets made using the same rules whether you are 8 or 80.

                          No -4 Str.

                          If you want to play your old character as Str 1, you can, but you shouldn't have to. Likewise, if you want to be Str 5 then go for it.
                          Character idea: Strongman that's only for show. He lacks coordination for fighting, and his muscle mass is mostly aesthetics (bodybuilder type, not actual fighter type). But the good news is, that he's mostly for show and posing and eye candy.

                          Unless of course, he got attacked. Panicking, he overcame his fear of the demon that crashed the gala, and exalted.

                          He's still Strength 1, Melee 1, but a benefit of having Presence and Appearance 5 is that you can flex so well the universe jumps to your command.

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                          • #58
                            I don't hate it, but bodybuilders are still strong. Not as strong as the strongmen who carry a little fat. Not as usefully strong as a fighter. But still strong.

                            I'd go Strength 5, Dex 1, Stamina 1.


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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by JohnDoe244 View Post
                              I don't hate it, but bodybuilders are still strong. Not as strong as the strongmen who carry a little fat. Not as usefully strong as a fighter. But still strong.

                              I'd go Strength 5, Dex 1, Stamina 1.
                              Showy and capable of doing feats, but like, zero cardio training?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Accelerator View Post
                                Showy and capable of doing feats, but like, zero cardio training?
                                Bingo. Athletics 2 with a Specialty in Performace.

                                No endurance. No coordination. Great at lifting stuff that LOOKS heavy, not so great at lifting stuff that is heavy.


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