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  • wulf
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    In that particular piece, I agree with you. I've seen him depicted in armor that looks somewhat ... confused or mis-matched. Perhaps that's on purpose: As though it's various pieces of armor claimed from those he's defeated.

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  • AnubisXy
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    I didn't know people had an issue with Yurgen's design. I always thought it looked pretty much like what I would expect from a northern barbarian warlord.

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  • Jen
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    Originally posted by The Revenge of TV Head View Post
    Roughly half the antagonists in Journey to the West, for starters.
    But they are mainly on Taoist team, since most are escaped pet from Heaven. And their costume are either chinese armor/royal outfit or Indian style (piece of cloth that loosely strap around the body), if they don't have bull-head/skeleton hand/spider-eyes then you wouldn't even realize how ridiculously evil they are.

    There are wrathful deities in Tibetan Buddhism that could be interpreted as being evil (if you don't understand why they're actually terrifying and violent). A good example of a feminine wrathful deity would be Palden Lhamo.
    If Lhamo was more popular then she probably would get the same treatment from Westerner as Kali: "SHE 'S EVILLLL!". Though the image of Sulumor as a seductress who use Devil-Tyrant Avatar Shintai to turn into Kali and smash everyone whenever thing don't go her way is very entertaining.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by HaplessWithDice View Post
    He's saying he doesn't know where nudist dune people come from. He hasn't seen that in any book and might just be a fan cannon that we all latched on to without it actually being in published lore.

    Upthread, he quoted me about dune people being made ugly in Scroll of Heroes (which is the first time it's stated), not members of

    NUDIST

    BEEEEEEEEEACH!

    But if it is about the nudity, I have no idea. It's probably in Scroll of Heroes if it's anywhere.

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  • wulf
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    There are wrathful deities in Tibetan Buddhism that could be interpreted as being evil (if you don't understand why they're actually terrifying and violent). A good example of a feminine wrathful deity would be Palden Lhamo.

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  • The Revenge of TV Head
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    Originally posted by Brasstreader View Post
    I'm okay with the nun outfit, provided they dialed back the harlotry to a more practical
    I really wish you were being sarcastic right now.
    I know you're not, but I still wish this was the case.

    What practical purpose does clothing serve when you can make yourself bulletproof, feel no changes in temperature or moisture and have the body of a goddamn swimsuit model?

    And if you say modesty so help me, I will reach through the internet and choke you.

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  • The Revenge of TV Head
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    Originally posted by Jen View Post

    Her face structure and that pounty lip is enough to make her an alluring seductress me think. Though I can't think of any Evil Buddhism character with cloth that scream EVIL.
    Roughly half the antagonists in Journey to the West, for starters.

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  • HaplessWithDice
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    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

    Can you rephrase that? I'm not entirely sure how to parse your statement.
    He's saying he doesn't know where nudist dune people come from. He hasn't seen that in any book and might just be a fan cannon that we all latched on to without it actually being in published lore.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Elfive View Post

    I have seen this mentioned everywhere except in any published book. Are you absolutely certain it's not some strange collective hallucination?
    Can you rephrase that? I'm not entirely sure how to parse your statement.

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  • wulf
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    I could be incorrect but I think in some ancient cultures, open displays of wealth were discouraged for fear of inciting rebellions. This was the reason why Sparta had its minimalist aesthetic, historically. The Realm doesn't seem like it'd hold these values as the Immaculate Philosophy clearly places the Dragonblooded on a higher pedestal spiritually and socially aside from their obvious political and economic dominance.

    I like the Empress' look as well. Well, I think her hairpiece is a bit comically ridiculous but overall I like her look. I still can't get behind Mnemon's garment - you can be practical and have business attire without looking like a boring, bloated parade float.

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  • Limited Reagent
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    I imagine Mnemon's outfit in those pictures isn't her fancy dress look. It looks more like something she'd go around in when doing her standard business. Attractive, practical (armored, even), but not terribly flashy.

    I like the Scarlet Empress's look. I think it's distinctive enough that it stands out, and still looks impressive enough to, well, be impressive. In drawn art, especially comic-book sorta style, I like simple, bold designs that stand out, instead of intricacies that often just become muddled.

    Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be hard to imagine that the Realm's current fashion isn't ostentatious or extravagant, but more a simple bold look. Perhaps more inspired by Roman Imperial looks? A quick internet search gets me pictures of an angusticlavia and laticlave, the former being the official outfit of the equestrian order, and the latter being what senators wore. I could get behind Realm fashion being derivative of those kinds of outfits.

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  • wulf
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    I've found a lot of the costume design for the NPCs to be a little lackluster or even inappropriate given the kind of life that these characters live. A good example is Mnemon. She's the eldest of the Scarlet Empress' children, she's a powerhouse who is incredibly young-looking for her age. Why on earth would she be wearing dull-coloured drapes and a matching tiara? She looks like she's swimming in her clothes. She doesn't have to dress like a slut, but good god she could be wearing clothes that fit her and compliment her body. In fact, I have always felt that the citizens of the Realm would wear the most fashion-forward garments of any civilization. Sure, some of them would be unfortunately ostentatious.

    Here's a decent example of a look that (aside from the legs) covers most of the body, looks expensive and powerful and could fit in a fantasy setting. Here's a queen in white and black (could work for a wealthy Earth-Aspected Dynast).

    And I completely agree that Demetheus should show off as much skin as possible. He has a great body and I want to see all of it, or as much of it as is tasteful. I'd be fine if he just wore leather pants and bracers.

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  • Zelbinnean
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    Originally posted by Brasstreader View Post
    I'm okay with the nun outfit, provided they dialed back the harlotry to a more practical level. After all, she's supposedly walking around in the desert a lot. Make the uniform look practical for desert weather.... you can always flash the fanservice-ecchi stuff in your By Rage Recast gloryshot.
    You don't really need "practical for desert weather" clothing when you have Transcendent Desert Creature.

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  • Elfive
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    Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

    Dune People suddenly becoming ugly
    I have seen this mentioned everywhere except in any published book. Are you absolutely certain it's not some strange collective hallucination?

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  • Zelbinnean
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    Originally posted by semicasual View Post
    Freely displayed tits, pecs, and/or ass are the most common and (to my way of thinking) laziest means of making a character stand out*. There are two ways to solve this:
    1. No naked people.
    2. Entire populations of naked people, in which the individual naked people aren't highly irregular.

    #2 might be the better option for this setting, as long as they don't come from the North.
    Yeah agreed. Got old when so many female NPCs just became parts of the T&A brigade - the sig Midnight and Malefactor, and who can forget the cover of the 1e Savant & Sorcerer...

    Meh, pecs are nothing. The equivalent to "topless sado-nun's skin sloughing off because Malfeas Charm" in MOEP Infernals or "other sado-nun Abyssal" In Scroll of Exalts and/or SotM is a really explicit penis bulge in tight pants or something.

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