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  • Rag demon is limited to an area of expertise for their venom and book form right? It should be okay then I think.


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    • Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
      Rag demon is limited to an area of expertise for their venom and book form right? It should be okay then I think.
      .... is it too much, to grant a person 5s?

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      • Originally posted by Accelerator View Post

        .... is it too much, to grant a person 5s?
        Given the other penalties, I think granting a person 5 dots and a specialty is appropriate.

        I also liked the book wasps, though...what about having them live in the words? Like, the book is their house instead of their body and they live in the information inside the book. As you read it, the information gradually assumes a “living form” until the wasp awakens and stings you.

        That said, another trigger for people that reject the book entirely might be appropriate, the venom becoming more harsh in that instance, because they didn’t read the book and prepare their mind for it first.

        As far as being poisoned multiple times goes, I think that just making it so you can’t heal from the effects of the poison while it’s running through you and if you die from the poison you collapse into a pile of gibberish might be enough, at least to prevent people from going and getting stung again right after they recover.

        I do think you should have a recovery period for the wasp though, maybe it needs to be dormant for a few weeks to rebuild its venom, so that they don’t go on a poisoning spree or something.
        Last edited by BrilliantRain; 01-23-2019, 12:21 PM.


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        • But if they can't go on a poisoning spree, they're less dangerous as demons.

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          • Not all demons are particularly dangerous. Look at the neomah, or the perronele, or sesselja.

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            • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
              Not all demons are particularly dangerous. Look at the neomah, or the perronele, or sesselja.
              Yes. But I know these are pretty darned useful. The danger is for balance reasons

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              • Originally posted by Accelerator View Post

                Yes. But I know these are pretty darned useful. The danger is for balance reasons
                Neomah also have poison and a capacity for reproduction which can be far more insidious if left unchecked, especially for a civilization if they all of a sudden introduce a bunch of inbred demon babies with a claim to several kingdoms.

                And Perroneles can make a Normal Human soldier into a mighty foe that can probably punch well above his previous weight.

                And Stomach Bottle Bugs could probably perform a bunch of messed up surgery if they were inclined, but they probably would be more a danger of drinking all your expensive booze.


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                • Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
                  Neomah also have poison and a capacity for reproduction which can be far more insidious if left unchecked, especially for a civilization if they all of a sudden introduce a bunch of inbred demon babies with a claim to several kingdoms.
                  Um, no, pretty much nothing in this sentence is accurate except the "also have poison."

                  If left unchecked, a neomah who cobbles together a bunch of flesh will also generally leave those babies any old place to die of exposure or starvation, because they don't actually care if the things survive. Their summoner would generally have to direct them to do something like care about what happens to them.

                  Also, being made from royal donated reproductive fluids doesn't particularly mean a baby is going to know they're the child of a half-dozen kings, to try and make that claim. And then they'd have to get the people to believe them. And it's not like the setting has DNA tests. And even that's going to be limited to the places where the people will just hand supreme executive power to any actual bastard who happens to have been percolated from the last ruler's beans, which I suspect aren't too common in Creation.

                  ​And in those kinds of places, the neomah would have to actually spend some time collecting that material from those rulers.

                  ​And that's before we even touch on the babies being inbred or demonic.
                  Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 01-27-2019, 01:57 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
                    And Perroneles can make a Normal Human soldier into a mighty foe that can probably punch well above his previous weight..
                    I still need to write up power armour

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                    • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                      Um, no, pretty much nothing in this sentence is accurate except the "also have poison."

                      ]If left unchecked, a neomah who cobbles together a bunch of flesh will also generally leave those babies any old place to die of exposure or starvation, because they don't actually care if the things survive. Their summoner would generally have to direct them to do something like this.

                      Also, being made from royal donated reproductive fluids doesn't particularly mean a baby is going to know they're the child of a half-dozen kings, to try and make that claim. And then they'd have to get the people to believe them. And it's not like the setting has DNA tests. And even that's going to be limited to the places where the people will just hand supreme executive power to any bastard who happens to have been percolated from the last ruler's beans, which I suspect aren't too common in Creation.

                      ​And in those kinds of places, the neomah would have to actually spend some time collecting that material from those rulers.

                      ​And that's before we even touch on the babies being inbred or demonic.
                      ..... um....

                      So Neomah do a couple of things. They can make designer babies for people that want one, and that's what most people seem to remember about them and that's what a lot of people summon them for in game. But their natural tendencies are more odd. They wander the world and vomit forth their towers and then they seek to sate the lusts and needs of any creature that comes calling. They use the flesh and fluids from these dalliances to make small creatures that are amalgams of all the donor species, then they discard them before wandering off

                      There are more creatures than just humans in Creation.

                      Neomah wander around, making little baby monsters. A tower goes up in the forest outside of town and brave youths go calling to show how brave they are. The neomah entertains a river dragon and some wandering deer. The woodsman comes a calling and so do his dogs. A week later, the Neomah leaves and there is a monster left to fare for its self, mostly human but with the legs of deer and a stag's rack of horns, with the teeth of dogs and the eyes and hunger of a river dragon.

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                      • They are creatures who are making performance based social attacks backed with a minimum of 13 dice, 25 hours a day, 7 days a week and that's before you factor in what their charms can do. A mortal society will fall apart if there's wandering minstrels playing music with legendary skill that inspires love, or sorrow, or rage, or any other emotion. They literally can not stop playing this music, because it will kill them.

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                        • Accelerator: A week-old human baby left out in the woods to fend for itself, is a dead human baby.

                          Baby humans are ludicrously vulnerable. Even if you give them sharp teeth.

                          Also, if you'd just read the book, you'd see Creation has 24-hour days.
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                          • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                            Accelerator: A week-old human baby left out in the woods to fend for itself, is a dead human baby.

                            Baby humans are ludicrously vulnerable. Even if you give them sharp teeth.

                            Also, if you'd just read the book, you'd see Creation has 24-hour days.
                            Tone down the hostility champ. It’s a reasonable mistake considering older editions had the 25 hour days.

                            And the baby isn’t a normal human babe, river dragons and even some pups survive on their own. The point is they populate the world with odd creatures. Some probably do die, but come on it’s not always dead baby city.


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                            • Szonyeg, the invisible carpets
                              Progeny of the Great White Hunter
                              Demon of the First circle

                              The demon stands in his room, confused. His friends were here several hours ago, but now no longer. He is alone. Searching about with its four eyes, it sees nothing. Yet, it hears it. A faint rustling. A faint shiver. A faint sound, of cloth and movement. Then, his area of vision blurs and darkens. He looks up, eyes wide open in horror. Too late. The Szonyeg has caught him in his grasp, and with a sick crack, broke his bones, and digested him.

                              The Szonyeg, is invisible to mortal eyes and weak spirits. But if it were to be seen with one with enough clarity of perception, it would appear as a strange, coloured carpet, albeit one that closely mimics the colour of the surface it is on. Others, are not so lucky. The Szonyeg is an ambush predator. Days and days pass, and it lays there, either curled up or laying flat on the floor. Its body is composed of immensely muscular fibers, and it is flat and spread out, like a sheet. One side of the Szonyeg is composed out of a shape and colour-shifting surface, allowing it to perfectly reproduce any image or background. This is the surface exposed to the world, allowing the demon to hide nearly anywhere in Malfeas. The other side contains a multitude of tiny mouths, grasping and tearing hooks, extendable poisonous spines, and pores that can secrete deadly acid. It lays in wait, for days, until some unlucky prey stumbles upon it.

                              Then, it leaps, and enfolds the prey, muffling its screams with its charms, muscular body grappling, crushing, and squeezing it. Microscopic hooks tearing apart skin and sinew. Spines, injecting it with neurotoxic and spiritoxic venom. Pores, weeping acid, softening the body for consumption. The Szonyeg then wraps itself around its prey to prevent spillage of ichor and viscera, and using shuffling, peristaltic motions, moves to the corner of the room***. Moments later, its friends burst through the doors, hearing a thud. But could only scratch their heads and shake their heads as they beheld an empty room, and close the door behind them, not realizing that if they had simply extended a foot, they would have touched their friends corpse, and the beast that ate him.

                              Sorcerers summon these monsters for a variety of reasons. Sometimes, to dispose of corpses. Sometimes, to terrorize a mortal fortress or household. Many are the legends within the threshold, that speak of inhabitants of a house that offended a sorcerer disappearing one by one, with strange, inviting whispers drifting through the walls, of screams and thuds which when investigated reveal nothing. Or of a group of travellers that enter a dusty, abandoned house, only to wake up and find one of their compatriots missing. Or, if the sorcerer is particularly brave, he can put the Szonyeg on top of himself, and use it like a cloak, using the shimmering, colour-shifting skin to mask his approach.

                              Fast charms:

                              Invisibility - The surface of the Szonyeg shifts to whatever is behind it, making it appear just like it. Mortal eyes are completely deceived, with no chance of detecting it. Those with essence channeling, receive a penalty equivalent to the Szonyeg's essence.

                              No smell, no sound - The Szonyeg shifts its stealth to other factors of its body... or its wearer. This muffles any sound or smell that could give its position away. The charm is powerful enough to muffle loud screams, the crunch of bones, and the stench of rotting meat.

                              Concept: Ok, I'm thinking of having the Szonyeg be used as a form of deadly ambush predator, like a horror movie monster. Not truly... sentient. I mean, you can talk to it, and it can understand you. Its also not very interested in much things beyond eating and catching. They crush bodies and pulp bones beneath their muscular masses. And get this, can drink memories. Not anything specific, mind you. They suck at that. But they definitely know enough to know how their friends look like. Which one likes to be alone. How they are related to the victim. So they imitate their newest prey's voice, and call out to their fathers or mothers, calling for help, dragging more people into its maw.

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                              • Puska, the Thrice-headed centipedes
                                Progeny of the Living Tower
                                Demon of the First Circle

                                The Puska is a beautiful creature. Made out of a silvery, multicoloured, segmented crystal, with jewels studding its length and with three heads. Each head of a Puska contains a single eye, a glowing ruby with an inner fire. The main body itself is scaled, with the ability to climb on or twine on nearly any sort of surface. Many use the Puska as jewellery, as its appearance is beautiful and pleasing to the eye . But that is never its true, main use. Octavian is no social dilettante. The Puska was made in service for war, like many of his progeny. Upon a command, the Puska open their mouths wide. Lightning Essence intermixed with Air Essence, and a glowing, screeching ball of power is launched from its mouth, streaking through the air faster than an arrow and quicker than the mortal eye can track. The ball is composed out of volatile energy, easing causing deadly injuries*, setting wood aflame, and turning stone red-hot and molten if enough were to strike it.** Each head of the Puska spits out a ball one after another, their sensitive red eyes allowing them to calculate complex trajectories, angles, and distances with the ease a man may breathe. *****Their tendency to take turns to fire means that a Puska can vomit out a continuous, non-stop stream of projectiles, allowing them to pin down their victims behind stone battlements and inside trenches, forcing them to move around or thin their numbers by rushing at it.

                                In the wars of Malfeas, the Puska are often used to kill off mass charges of weak demons, and are draped across frames where they can rest and Attack at any angle. In Creation, it is much the same, with cults and sorcerers using Puska to rob treasuries and storming official buildings.

                                Some have breeded and mutated the Puska, merging their heads together and enhancing its power with Malfean fungi and Kimberrian Lichen. Their bodies are now short, squat, thick, and nearly immobile. They have a single head, and a single mouth, with three eyes clustered about them. They now vomit a single bolt, sacrificing rate of fire for firepower.**** Their projectile are now even deadlier, transforming solid stone into molten slag or explode amongst a squad of demons, causing horrific, injuries of melting flesh and green sun wasting.

                                *Kills mortals with ease. Not much use against guys like blood apes, though
                                **First hits like normal. Subsequent hits get one more dice. Then another. And another. Until it just falls down.

                                ***I need a good drawback and a good limit break

                                ****Bazooka

                                ***** Whatever weapon analogue you’re thinking of? They got better range. And are self-aiming.

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