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  • This is something I put together for a Nightingale Style martial artist - made before Arms of the Chosen came out, but it still seemed OK with me although I'm a bit worried I have too many charms fired off with willpower.

    Light's Refrain - Orichalcum Lyre (3 dot artifact)

    Late in the first age, a Zenith caste martial artist of the Nightingale Style named Omanil Deft-Tongue had the strings on his weapon/lyre destroyed in battle against a fair folk noble when they were turned into streams of blood. He commissioned a notable Twilight crafter to restring the instrument with something unbreakable, and after a decade of preparation and a petition to the heavens it was repaired with strings made of the light from a solar eclipse. Omanil then immediately declared that only fair folk blood would do to rechristen the weapon, and so with the Twilight hunted down a fair folk tribe roaming near the edge of creation, and slew them all.

    Ever-Stylish Ensemble
    Cost: 1m
    Min: Ess 1
    Type: Simple
    Duration: Instant
    Keywords: None
    Prerequisite: None

    The Exalt’s clothing glows brightly for a second, and then becomes ideal for both situation and company. Use of this evocation causes the wielder to automatically fail at any current stealth attempts, unless used at noon on a sunny day or in a similar situation the Storyteller deems appropriate.

    Favourite of the Light
    Cost: None
    Min: Ess 2
    Type: Permanent
    Duration: Permanent
    Keywords: Shaping?
    Prerequisite: Ever-Stylish Ensemble

    The light falls favourably on the features of its chosen, highlighting their best aspects and casting their flaws into shadow. While attuned to Light’s Refrain and illuminated enough to clearly see the Exalt’s face, she is considered to have an appearance one higher than normal.

    Shadow Dimming Harmony
    Cost: 4m + 1 WP
    Min: Ess 2
    Type: Supplemental
    Duration: One Scene
    Keywords: None
    Prerequisite: None

    Light’s Refrain begins a duet with the wielder, adding a soft accompaniment to any music played that is the antithesis of creation’s enemies. Any creatures of darkness struck by a kiai from this weapon suffer a one die internal penalty, for a number of rounds equal to the Solar’s essence, on all actions. For social actions, this penalty is increased to their own essence rating. This penalty does not stack on multiple strikes, but the duration does. This evocation immediately ends if Glory to the Heroes is used.

    Glory to the Heroes
    Cost: 4m + 1 WP
    Min: Ess 2
    Type: Supplemental
    Duration: One Scene
    Keywords: None
    Prerequisite: None

    Light’s Refrain begins a duet with the wielder, adding a stirring, and uplifting accompaniment to any music played that inspires the Solar’s allies to become paragons of virtue. Anyone hearing this who bears a mutual positive tie to the Solar gains two non-charm bonus dice to all rolls. For the Exalted, this bonus becomes two automatic non-charm successes if the roll is using one of their caste or aspect abilities. This evocation immediately ends of Shadow Dimming Refrain is used.

    Enemy of the Heavens
    Cost: None
    Min: Ess 3
    Type: Permanent
    Duration: Permanent
    Keywords: None
    Prerequisite: Shadow Dimming Refrain, Glory to the Heroes

    Any being who the Solar has a negative intimacy towards counts as a creature of darkness for the purposes of Shadow Dimming Harmony, and any Solar charms used while Shadow Dimming Harmony is in effect. This adds an optional, additional cost of 1WP to Shadow Dimming Harmony . Anybody targeted by this evocation becomes fully aware of how the Solar feels about them!

    The Sun Conquers All
    Cost: 1 WP
    Min: Ess 3
    Type: Simple
    Duration: One Hour
    Keywords: None
    Prerequisite: Favourite of the Light, Enemy of the Heavens

    During either Calibration or a Solar Eclipse, the true nature of the strings become apparent. Glowing with the captured light of the sun, it becomes as bright as noon-day within 100 metres of Light’s Refrain. Unprotected mortals must make a difficulty 1 Wits + Athletics roll to avoid being permanently blinded, and creatures of darkness immediately become material and treat the light as an environmental hazard resisted with Stamina + Integrity, difficulty 4 with damage of 3A per round. Solars and Lunars within the light gain 1 mote of essence per minute, increasing to 1 mote per round in combat.

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    • This is an ace thread. I don't have any submissions to contribute but I want you all to know I'm basically going through the whole thing and yoinking all the good ones into a word file for future games. 👍


      3e Scavenger Lands map
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      • This is a bit of a thought experiment more than a practical thing, and I'm looking much more for rough ideas I could use for a kind of MacGuffin than something the PCs are going to be using on a regular basis, but what would an equivalent to the Protoshinmaic Vortex look like in 3e, with Evocations and all? I don't think it should be quite so hilariously unstable if it's going to last from the First Age, or else it'll have to have some kind of stabilising facility (totally-not-a-nuclear-facility manse, anyone?). As for evocations, I have a few ideas:
        • Allows the user to respire Essence in non-suitable environments (e.g. the Underworld for a Solar)
        • Increases the owner's rate of Essence respiration
        • Functions as a Hearthstone
        • Overdrive pools
        • Maybe some kind of Wyld Shaping enhancement?
        • Some kind of AoE attack, maybe modelled on Karvara's Voice of Apocalypse, as a kind of limited version of its 'meltdown' thing?
        I do feel that it's a little dull at the moment, and it's definitely not intended as an artefact primarily for combat. Maybe the majority of the Evocations have Dissonance effects, or even non-Resonant effects, that 'pollute' the surrounding area with Wyld energies (coughradiationcough), so it's really, really dangerous to use by anyone that isn't Resonant with it - i.e. Solars most likely. Any ideas or thoughts would be more than welcome. Also, if someone could remind me which book the PSV is in that would be handy, as I've been looking through the Books of Sorcery and CoCD: The Wyld and I can't find it there.

        In terms of visual 'look', I can't help but think of the egg-thing from this video:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX8iSobsKTY
        Last edited by ajf115; 06-30-2018, 11:12 AM.


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        • Been a while since I've come to this thread but now I've started playing in a new DB campaign and am playing a Water-Aspect magistrate, and I came up with an armor with cool Evocations so I thought I'd share it here.

          Benthic Shroud (Black Jade Reinforced Breastplate ···)

          Benthic Shroud is made up of moonsilver-alloyed black jade plates enveloped in flowing deep blue cloth. This exotic fabric changes subtly in hue as it reflects the light and conceals the armour’s moonsilver links and straps from view. It has a single hearthstone socket hidden under the gorget.

          It originally belonged to the lunar anathema Silken Fangs, who was slain by Tepet Nikara during the first conquest of Wavecrest in 368 RY. It has been worn by several Tepet scions ever since, particularly those whose duties require both protection and subtlety.

          The nature of Benthic Shroud favours adaptability and obscurity. It protects its wearer under layers and layers of falsehood and misdirection, both figuratively and literally.

          Because of its unique legend and construction, lunar exalted gain the benefits of resonance when unlocking Benthic Shroud’s Evocations.

          A non-dissonant wearer unlocks Dragon Scales under Foam for free upon first attuning to Benthic Shroud.

          Evocations of Benthic Shroud:

          Dragon Scales under Foam:

          Cost: 1m; Mins: Essence 1
          Type: Supplemental
          Keywords: Resonant
          Duration: Instant
          Prerequisite Charms: None

          The flowing cloths of Benthic Shroud flow and change colour as the wearer wishes, obscuring the jade plates beneath. This allows the armour to take on any appearance the wearer can imagine, as long as it still covers most of the torso. The armour always counts as exceptional equipment for disguise rolls and negates any penalties for including the armour as part of the disguise.

          Resonant: the cloth answers swiftly its wearer’s directions, allowing a disguise action to be completed in just a minute. If combined with other magic, such as Instant Disguise Prana, a disguise can be donned or shed in a handful of seconds or a single miscellaneous action during combat.

          Depths-Hidden Secrets:

          Cost: 5m; Mins: Essence 1
          Type: Reflexive
          Keywords: Mute, Dissonant
          Duration: One Scene
          Prerequisite Charms: Dragons Scales under Foam

          The wearer of Benthic Shroud sinks into his own deception like a pebble tossed into the water. While wearing a disguise, the wearer may use this Evocation to form a Major Intimacy that reinforces his new role. He may call upon this Intimacy to resist any influence that would cause him to break character. Additionally, he may add it as a bonus to his Guile against any Read Intentions or Profile Character actions that would compromise his cover. The Intimacy fades when the disguise is removed or the current scene ends.

          Dissonant: the Intimacy is only Minor.

          Darkened Waters Resilience:

          Cost: 4m; Mins: Essence 1
          Type: Reflexive
          Keywords: Resonant
          Duration: Instant
          Prerequisite Charms: Dragon Scales under Foam

          Benthic Shroud folds and yields against assault, keeping its true strength hidden under a veil of impassivity. This Evocation adds the wearer’s Guile to the armour’s soak against a withering attack.

          Resonant: if Depth-Hidden Secrets is active and the attacker has not seen through the disguise, add the Intimacy’s rating to the soak bonus granted by this Evocation.

          Light-Swallowing Concentration:

          Cost: 2+m; Mins: Essence 2
          Type: Reflexive
          Keywords: Resonant
          Duration: Indefinite
          Prerequisite Charms: Depth-Hidden Secrets

          With enough focus, even the light of essence can be swallowed under the waves. This Evocation can be activated whenever the wearer’s anima would rise to a new level, concealing it from view. He gains no benefit from it and produces no anima flux while this is active. When this Evocation ends, his anima instantly flares to its appropriate level.

          Resonant: an Essence 4 repurchase allows the wearer to instead mimic the anima banner of any exalt he has previously witnessed, including iconic displays. This does not grant him access to any of their anima powers.

          Moon-Reflecting Mirror Stance:

          Cost: 4m 1w; Mins: Essence 3
          Type: Reflexive
          Keywords: None
          Duration: Instant
          Prerequisite Charms: Depth-Hidden Secrets

          The wearer obscures his true self under the lightless abyss of Benthic Depths. He may use this Evocation when his Guile is pierced while Depth-Hidden Secrets is active, causing the other character to only divine the Intimacy created by that Evocation.
          This Evocation can only be used once per target, unless reset by a successful persuade or instil action against that character that reinforces his cover.

          Unfolding Tide Defence:

          Cost: 6m 1w; Mins: Essence 3
          Type: Reflexive
          Keywords: Resonant
          Duration: Instant
          Prerequisite Charms: Darkened Water Resilience

          When confronted with danger, Benthic Shroud sheds its layer of deception to escape unharmed. To use this Evocation, the wielder must be wearing a disguise and his attacker must not have seen through it.
          When struck by a Decisive attack, the wearer’s disguise is torn away, subtracting his total successes on the disguise roll from the raw damage of the attack, to a maximum of his Stamina + Larceny.

          Resonant: the maximum amount of damage that can be reduced with this Evocation increases to Stamina + Larceny + Essence.

          Renewing Tide Revelation:

          Cost: (+5m); Mins: Essence 3
          Type: Reflexive
          Keywords: None
          Duration: Instant
          Prerequisite Charms: Vaporous Visage Evasion, Moon-Reflecting Mirror Stance

          This Evocation can be used when Vaporous Visage Evasion is triggered or when his disguise would be removed for whatever reason. By paying a 5 mote surcharge he can reflexively roll Wits + Larceny with Essence non-charm bonus dice to reflexively produce a new disguise. If her original disguise was pierced by a rolled action, then this new disguise roll must produce enough successes to beat it. If he is successful, that character cannot attempt to pierce his new disguise until she is given new reason to be suspicious.
          Once per scene.



          Now I'm rather lost as to what to do with his weapons. I decided I wanted to go with a pair of short daiklaves, one made of Black Jade and the other of Red Jade, figuring I could do some cool fire/water combination powers, but I haven't been able to come up with any ideas that work.
          I call upon the collective mind of the OPP forums to aid me.
          Last edited by BadassOverlord; 07-01-2018, 11:13 PM.

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          • I love the idea of someone escaping an attack fundamentally unharmed by leaving their opponent holding a wig or tangling their weapon in a dress or coat in such a way that the disguise is revealed.

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            • Originally posted by BadassOverlord View Post
              Now I'm rather lost as to what to do with his weapons. I decided I wanted to go with a pair of short daiklaves, one made of Black Jade and the other of Red Jade, figuring I could do some cool fire/water combination powers, but I haven't been able to come up with any ideas that work.
              I call upon the collective mind of the OPP forums to aid me.
              What about using some 'volcano' symbolism? Less Volcano Cutter's 'eruptions' and more the 'lava flowing into water'. Or maybe you could draw inspiration from undersea vents?


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              • Cross-posting in the hopes of getting some feedback.

                Ravenous Shade Prison
                From the shadowland now called Walker's Realm came the Ravenous Shade Prison. A deathknight wore this god-armor to battle the armies of Lookshy, and it has since been reclaimed by the Dragon-Blooded; Walker in Darkness's agents watch this development curiously, waiting to see if Lookshy brings it to bear against the Mask of Winters.

                The warstrider is a slender titan of soulsteel, just over thirty feet in height, whose right wrist ends not with a hand, but with a black sword. The cockpit is designed with acoustic perfection in mind; the pilot may reroll one failed die on Inspire rolls from inside the cockpit.
                Any human directly killed by Ravenous Shade Prison finds their lower soul wrenched loose and drawn into the warstrider; the warstrider gains one Intimacy the slain person possessed, chosen by the Storyteller, at Minor level. If Ravenous Shade Prison already has that Intimacy at Minor level, it is upgraded to Major level, or to Defining level if it's already Major.

                Attunement: 20m
                ​Soak: 15, Hardness: 10
                Damage Track: -0x5/-1x5/-2x10/-4x10
                Speed bonus: +2
                Hearthstone slots: 3
                Era: Fall of Thorns

                Standard Armaments
                Sword-Arm: +3 ACC, +12L DMG, +1 DEF, OVW 5. Balanced, Lethal, Natural, Melee
                Unarmed: +5 ACC, +10B DMG, +0 DEF, OVW 3. Grappling, Natural, Smashing

                Through Shades' Eyes
                Cost: 4m, 1wp; Mins: Essence 2
                Type: Reflexive
                Duration: One scene
                Prerequisites: None
                The twisted faces of the dead materialize on the black metal of Ravenous Shade Prison, granting the pilot their senses. With these shared senses comes insight into their emotional state.
                The pilot ignores all penalties from darkness or blindness. The pilot also gains Double 7s on Read Intentions to puzzle out the Intimacies of the warstrider.

                Venting Anger Venom
                Cost: 3m; Mins: Essence 2
                Type: Supplemental
                Keywords: Dual, Resonant
                Duration: Instant
                Prerequisites: Through Shades' Eyes
                Channeling one of the warstrider's Intimacies of hate or anger, Ravenous Shade Prison's arm glows with a black aura.
                ​On a successful withering attack, the damage is increased by (Charisma + Intimacy); for a successful decisive attack, the damage is increased by (Intimacy) dice. This degrades the Intimacy by one step. If the target is the object of the warstrider's hate, they are additionally poisoned with snake venom (EX3, p. 234).
                Resonant: Resonant pilots can choose not to degrade the Intimacy once per scene.
                Special activation rules: This Evocation awakens at no cost when the pilot first successfully determines one of Ravenous Shade Prison's Intimacies with a Read Intentions action.

                Hate-Devouring Hunger
                Cost: 1m, 2i; Mins: Essence 2
                Type: Reflexive
                Keywords: Perilous, Psyche, Resonant
                Duration: Instant
                Prerequisites: Through Shades' Eyes
                Scenting the roiling emotions of an attacker, Ravenous Shade Prison seeks out those emotions and consumes them.
                If the pilot successfully defends, the attacker's most relevant Intimacy toward the combat is degraded by one step, and Ravenous Shade Prison adds the devoured Intimacy to its own. Assaulting the warstrider again this scene requires the attacker to pay a point of temporary Willpower.
                This Evocation may only erode a given Intimacy once in a scene.
                Resonant: All enemies must pay a point of temporary Willpower to attack the warstrider, not just the enemy who attacked.

                Passion-Sewing Technique
                Cost: 3m, 1 wp; Mins: Essence 2
                Type: Simple
                Keywords: Psyche
                Duration: Indefinite
                Prerequisites: Venting Anger Venom
                Ravenous Shade Prison lowers the point of its sword and carves a furrow into the ground, creating a channel for the emotions roiling inside the warstrider. The pilot selects one of the warstrider's Intimacies, eroding it by one step. She makes a (Charisma or Manipulation + Performance) Inspire roll; any who cross the line whose Resolve is lower than the pilot's successes find themselves filled with the emotion from the Intimacy (Ex3, pg. 217). Ghosts and other dead things take a -2 penalty to Resolve against this effect.

                Howling Pack Unfettered
                Cost: 10m, 1wp (+2a); Mins: Essence 3
                Type: Simple
                Keywords: Dissonant
                Duration: Scene
                Prerequisites: Passion-Sewing Technique
                Lowering its blade, the warstrider sews the ground with the restless dead. From the furrow cut into the earth pour a stream of hungry ghosts, forming a Battle Group with a Size of (Essence-2), poor Drill, and Might 2.
                If Howling Pack Unfettered is used during the day, the pilot may pay 2 levels of anima to create an aura of shadows that extends out to Medium range to protect them from the ruinous effects of the sun.
                At the end of the scene, the surviving hungry ghosts are drawn inexorably back into Ravenous Shade Prison.
                Dissonant: At the end of the scene, the surviving hungry ghosts are freed from their bondage, and may come to haunt the region.

                Empty Inner Peace
                Cost: 4m, 1wp; Mins: Essence 3
                Type: Reflexive
                Keywords: Psyche, Resonant
                Duration: Instant
                Prerequisites: Hate-Devouring Hunger
                The pilot of Ravenous Shade Prison has learned to clear away unwanted emotions by shunting them into the hungry black steel. Any influence that benefits from exploiting one of the pilot's Intimacies may be negated by removing the Intimacy completely, adding it to the warstrider's list of Intimacies. The pilot may not restore the lost Intimacy for a season.
                Resonant: A resonant user can gain the same benefit from merely eroding the Intimacy by one step, but is still not able to restore it to full strength for a season.

                Million Screaming Mouths Howl
                Cost: 20m, 1wp; Mins: Essence 4
                Type: Simple
                Keywords: Dissonant, Psyche
                Duration: Instant
                Prerequisites: Venting Anger Venom, Passion-Sewing Technique
                The pilot whips the ghosts contained inside to a frenzy, and then lets their passion emanate from the warstrider in a psychic scream that extends out (Essence x2) miles.
                Any within the area find their most bestial soul awakened by the silent call. They take a -3 penalty to their Resolve against Inspire rolls from any source for the rest of the scene, and a -1 penalty to Resolve against Inspire rolls after that for a year. Additionally, until their po soul grows quiescent again, affected individuals will leave behind hungry ghosts upon their death, regardless of the circumstances that led to it.
                Dissonant: Dissonant pilots cannot learn both this Evocation and Heart-Quenching Song.

                Heart-Quenching Song
                Cost: 6m, 1wp; Mins: Essence 4
                Type: Simple
                Keywords: Dissonant, Psyche
                Duration: One song
                Prerequisites: Empty Inner Peace
                The pilot sings within the chassis of Ravenous Shade Prison, and her song is joined by the dead, producing a dirge that can be heard out to Extreme range in all directions. The lower souls of those who hear this music fall quiescent, and find their will to fight sapped.
                While playing this song in combat, enemies automatically lose one Initiative per round, and their successful withering attacks are not awarded the base point of Initiative. Enemies who spend Willpower to resist Hate-Devouring Hunger will take a -3 penalty on attack rolls.
                Moreover, enemy and allied battle groups alike take a penalty of (Essence) dice on rolls to rally for numbers.
                Ravenous Shade Prison may not take non-Reflexive actions while using this Evocation, as even its own will to do battle wanes.
                Those who hear the Heart-Quenching Song will not leave hungry ghosts upon their death if they should die within a year of hearing it.
                Dissonant: Dissonant pilots cannot learn both this Evocation and Million Screaming Mouths Howl.

                Destroyer, Rise!
                Cost: 35m, 3wp; Mins: Essence 5
                Type: Simple
                Keywords: Resonant
                Duration: Instant
                Prerequisites: Million Screaming Mouths Howl
                A pilot who awakens this Evocation has mastered the art of turning the anger of the restless dead toward his grand designs. Calling on ten thousand lives' worth of suffering, the pilot reaches out to the land itself, or a landscape-sized creature. She calls on it to awaken, to remember the days when it was a force of destruction, to free itself so that it may be so once more.
                This call to arms shatters any Charms or enchantments laid to keep the land quiescent. Catastrophe follows in the wake of this Evocation; a mountain may erupt into a volcano or let loose a lethal avalanche, or a city may be shaken to rubble by earthquake, or a great fissure may open in the ground and vent poisonous gasses sufficient to kill armies.
                This Evocation can only be used when Ravenous Shade Prison has at least five negative Intimacies; using this Evocation consumes all of the warstrider's Intimacies. This Evocation can only be used once per story, unless reset by Ravenous Shade Prison gaining ten new negative Intimacies; the Dawn Caste anima power cannot reset this Evocation.
                Resonant: Only Resonant pilots can learn both this Evocation and All Falls Silent.

                All Falls Silent
                Cost: 30m, 3wp; Mins: Essence 5
                Type: Simple
                Keywords: Resonant
                Duration: One song
                Prerequisites: Heart-Quenching Song, Howling Pack Unfettered
                The pilot may sing a lullaby to the world itself, helping a wounded land let go of its suffering. When the earth sleeps and forgets its pain, it may yet experience rebirth. The faces fade from the surface of Ravenous Shade Prison as they, too, experience freedom from their torment, and dissolve away one by one.
                The pilot rolls Charisma + Performance, with (Essence) automatic successes. Each minute they are allowed to continue uninterrupted purges (successes) square miles of shadowland from Creation. Any ghosts in the affected area are shunted into the Underworld; the living find themselves in the land's new incarnation in Creation.
                Other types of injured land might also be healed by All Falls Silent, subject to Storyteller approval.
                Ravenous Shade Prison loses all the Intimacies it has accrued.
                This Evocation can only be used once per story, unless reset by accomplishing a Legendary social goal with Ravenous Shade Prison; it cannot be reset with the Dawn Caste anima power.
                Resonant: Only Resonant pilots can learn both this Evocation and Destroyer, Rise!
                Last edited by TheCountAlucard; 07-02-2018, 03:35 PM.

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                • I'd love to give some feedback, but i don't really feel confident enough in Ex3 mechanics to do so. Thematically I like the evocations and the warstrider. Howling Pack Unfettered fits what you were talking about on the other thread very well - a powerful ability with nasty drawbacks for Dissonant users.

                  On another subject, are there any Hellforged artifacts lying around somewhere? Because I was a fan of the vitriol-crafting of 2e and given how evocative the Yozis were, I can think of plenty of ideas for artifacts that invoke their themes. I'm currently working on a bit of an Infernal pirate - in a story, thus allowing me to use the Infernals without having to update all their mechanics - and I'm trying to think of an artefact that would work for him.
                  Last edited by ajf115; 07-09-2018, 06:48 AM.


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                  • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                    Cross-posting in the hopes of getting some feedback.
                    Overall, I quite like it! Very thematic, and it makes nice use of the idea of ghosts' passions. Some specific commentary, though:

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    the warstrider gains one Intimacy the slain person possessed, chosen by the Storyteller, at Minor level.
                    I worry that this will produce a very long list of intimacies to keep track of. That can be managed - if a player takes this, I'd expect them to be willing to put in the effort. However, I'm also leery of the idea of having to come up with an intimacy every time this thing kills someone. I'd suggest putting in a clause that trivial opponents don't give any intimacies, and that you only gain one from a battlegroup, or perhaps one per Size level an attack reduces a battlegroup. Otherwise, I have visions of a player going "Well, I killed a Size 4 battlegroup, that's supposed to be hundreds of people, so I should get hundreds of intimacies, right?" Allowing that would pretty much destroy the "intimacy economy" you've set up.

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Venting Anger Venom
                    Resonant: Resonant pilots can choose not to degrade the Intimacy once per scene.
                    Does this apply once per intimacy, or only once per scene total? E.g., if Ravenous Shade Prison has three intimacies, and I'm resonant with it, can I use Venting Anger Venom three times, using a different intimacy each time, without degrading them, or could I only do so once?

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Special activation rules: This Evocation awakens at no cost when the pilot first successfully determines one of Ravenous Shade Prison's Intimacies with a Read Intentions action.
                    It's probably worth clarifying up above in the attunement section that the pilot of Ravenous Shade Prison doesn't automatically learn the intimacies absorbed. It wasn't clear to me that that was the case until I got to here. Also, what's RSP's Guile? Is it just 1, and any success on Read Intentions will pick up something? Or is it higher?

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Hate-Devouring Hunger
                    Assaulting the warstrider again this scene requires the attacker to pay a point of temporary Willpower.
                    Resonant: All enemies must pay a point of temporary Willpower to attack the warstrider, not just the enemy who attacked.
                    These should be clarified, I think, to say whether it's just 1 WP cost to be able to attack for the rest of the scene, or 1 WP per attack. The latter would be too powerful, in my opinion. Even allowing the cost to be "reset" by another use of Hate-Devouring Hunger would be too much, I think. Or can Hate-Devouring Hunger not be used on the same attacker more than once anyway? It degrades the "most relevant intimacy", but does the note about degrading an intimacy no more than once a scene mean you can only use this on the single most relevant intimacy, or that once you've used it on that, it moves down to the next-most relevant, and so on, until you've gone through all their intimacies?

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Passion-Sewing Technique
                    any who cross the line whose Resolve is lower than the pilot's successes find themselves filled with the emotion from the Intimacy (Ex3, pg. 217).
                    I'm not sure this makes sense. The page reference you give is to either Threaten or Inspire, but neither of those actually has an intimacy associated with an emotion. The emotion created by an Inspire action can act like an Intimacy for purposes of social actions that play on it, but that's not really the same thing. And intimacies don't necessarily have an emotional context - that's for ties, but principles can be much broader. What if RSP has an intimacy stolen from a slain Dragonblood, a principle of "Lookshy is worth any sacrifice to defend."?

                    I'd suggest changing this to say that it explicitly works as an Inspire on anyone who crosses the line, with the emotion being inspired being related to the intimacy used to "fuel" it, but subject to interpretation. So the above-mentioned principle could probably inspire emotions like patriotic fervour, an urge towards martyrdom, or even homesickness, while an intimacy like "the Realm, icy hatred" could inspire hatred, of course, but probably also dispassionate judgement or cool disdain.

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Howling Pack Unfettered
                    At the end of the scene, the surviving hungry ghosts are drawn inexorably back into Ravenous Shade Prison.
                    Dissonant: At the end of the scene, the surviving hungry ghosts are freed from their bondage, and may come to haunt the region.
                    I kind of wonder if drawing the shades back or not should be optional for non-dissonant users, and dissonant users must let them free - sometimes, a resonant user of this thing is probably going to want to haunt a place, and it's a little odd that only dissonant users can do so.

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Million Screaming Mouths Howl
                    The pilot whips the ghosts contained inside to a frenzy, and then lets their passion emanate from the warstrider in a psychic scream that extends out (Essence x2) miles.
                    I'd suggest giving this an explicit range for combat purposes, something like "out to the fourth extreme range band, or (Essence X 2) miles out of combat."

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Heart-Quenching Song
                    The pilot sings within the chassis of Ravenous Shade Prison, and her song is joined by the dead, producing a dirge that can be heard out to Extreme range in all directions.
                    Conversely, I'd say this one needs an out-of-combat range specified, since someone who wanted to make sure nobody left hungry ghosts could just stand in the middle of a city and start singing, even without being rolled into initiative. I'd suggest a mile for the range.

                    Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                    Destroyer, Rise!
                    Catastrophe follows in the wake of this Evocation; a mountain may erupt into a volcano or let loose a lethal avalanche, or a city may be shaken to rubble by earthquake, or a great fissure may open in the ground and vent poisonous gasses sufficient to kill armies.
                    Does this happen automatically? Does every landscape have the potential for disaster? And, if it does, how immediate is the catastrophe? I'd suggest putting in some text suggesting that the more inherently active or dangerous the land is, the more quickly the disaster appears, but it should probably take at least a scene to manifest no matter what.

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                    • Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      I worry that this will produce a very long list of intimacies to keep track of.
                      A fair point.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      Otherwise, I have visions of a player going "Well, I killed a Size 4 battlegroup, that's supposed to be hundreds of people, so I should get hundreds of intimacies, right?"
                      That's not how defeating a battle group works; even if you deal enough damage to destroy the battle group two or three times over, it doesn't kill absolutely every last one of them; in fact, for battle groups above about Size 2, I'd expect that short of some absurdly lethal sorcery or other "I hit everybody" tricks, you only incapacitate, like, tens of people, and the rest are throwing down their arms and getting the fuck out of there.

                      That said, I'd like to put a clause in there about battle groups not contributing to the Intimacy list, something about the sheer press of souls stopping any one from sticking out enough to contribute to the gestalt personality of RSP, but I'm not quite sure how to word it.

                      I'm actually okay with individual insignificant opponents contributing to the list of Intimacies, though, because that feels appropriately corruptive.


                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      Does this apply once per intimacy, or only once per scene total? E.g., if Ravenous Shade Prison has three intimacies, and I'm resonant with it, can I use Venting Anger Venom three times, using a different intimacy each time, without degrading them, or could I only do so once?
                      Just once.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      It's probably worth clarifying up above in the attunement section that the pilot of Ravenous Shade Prison doesn't automatically learn the intimacies absorbed. It wasn't clear to me that that was the case until I got to here. Also, what's RSP's Guile? Is it just 1, and any success on Read Intentions will pick up something? Or is it higher?
                      I, ah, haven't decided yet. I want it to be pretty simple, hence the whole Charm making it ludicrously easy to do so, but I think maybe it should be a little harder to tease out the warstrider's feelings after it empties a town of souls.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      These should be clarified, I think, to say whether it's just 1 WP cost to be able to attack for the rest of the scene, or 1 WP per attack.
                      Per scene. And it can't be used against the same target twice in a scene, though successive scenes are permitted; the degraded Intimacy is still almost certainly the most relevant, after all - you've just made them feel less strongly about it.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      I'm not sure this makes sense. The page reference you give is to either Threaten or Inspire, but neither of those actually has an intimacy associated with an emotion. The emotion created by an Inspire action can act like an Intimacy for purposes of social actions that play on it, but that's not really the same thing.
                      You're not giving them an Intimacy - you're giving them an emotion, per the Inspire rules on the cited page. The emotion is based off the sacrificed Intimacy. Burning up a tie of Simon (Love) to fuel the Evocation doesn't cause people who cross the chasm love for Simon - it just fills their hearts with feelings of love.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      And intimacies don't necessarily have an emotional context - that's for ties, but principles can be much broader. What if RSP has an intimacy stolen from a slain Dragonblood, a principle of "Lookshy is worth any sacrifice to defend."?
                      What Intimacies it picks up are up to the ST, mind, but my next editing pass will probably nix it being able to acquire Intimacies that have nothing to do with emotion.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      Does this happen automatically?
                      Yes.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      Does every landscape have the potential for disaster?
                      Yes.

                      Originally posted by Kelly Pedersen View Post
                      And, if it does, how immediate is the catastrophe?
                      It starts when you use the Evocation. Immediately.

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                      • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                        That's not how defeating a battle group works; even if you deal enough damage to destroy the battle group two or three times over, it doesn't kill absolutely every last one of them; in fact, for battle groups above about Size 2, I'd expect that short of some absurdly lethal sorcery or other "I hit everybody" tricks, you only incapacitate, like, tens of people, and the rest are throwing down their arms and getting the fuck out of there.
                        I'm aware of that, but a) warstriders probably do fall into the camp of "capable of killing a significant fraction of a battlegroup", and b) 10s of intimacies is still a lot too many in one fight, in my opinion.

                        Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                        That said, I'd like to put a clause in there about battle groups not contributing to the Intimacy list, something about the sheer press of souls stopping any one from sticking out enough to contribute to the gestalt personality of RSP, but I'm not quite sure how to word it.
                        You could also go with each dot of Size reduced gives an intimacy based on the "average" one for the group. So if the soldiers in a group mostly have an intimacy of "Lookshy (Loyalty)", the warstrider gets that.

                        If you want suggestions for wording of your idea, how about: "Attacking a battlegroup never provides intimacies, even when successful - so many souls passing at once makes it impossible for the warstrider's black soul to latch on to any in particular."

                        Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                        I'm actually okay with individual insignificant opponents contributing to the list of Intimacies, though, because that feels appropriately corruptive.
                        My big concern with trivial opponents counting is the idea that the pilot could just go to a convenient peasant village and stock up on intimacies by slaughtering everyone. I think that that sort of behavior being something that works both makes the corruption a bit too strong, and it devalues the intimacy economy of the charms. If you can trivially have 100 or more intimacies, does the fact that you've got to erode three or four in a battle really matter? I think it doesn't. If the intent is for RSP to pick up intimacies that easily, and have that many at once, I think I'd prefer for the mechanics to not worry about eroding specific intimacies at all. Simplify things by creating some other resource that's easier to track and is actually meaningful in play, I say.

                        Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                        I, ah, haven't decided yet. I want it to be pretty simple, hence the whole Charm making it ludicrously easy to do so, but I think maybe it should be a little harder to tease out the warstrider's feelings after it empties a town of souls.
                        That makes sense - basically, in all the huge mess, it's hard to figure out just one? Maybe increase Guile by the effective Size of the group of ghosts currently contained?

                        Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                        You're not giving them an Intimacy - you're giving them an emotion, per the Inspire rules on the cited page. The emotion is based off the sacrificed Intimacy.
                        Okay, basically what I suggested then. I'd clarify the writing then - for one thing, make sure it's explicit that this is an Inspire action. Right now, it's not clear that's what's happening.


                        Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                        What Intimacies it picks up are up to the ST, mind, but my next editing pass will probably nix it being able to acquire Intimacies that have nothing to do with emotion.
                        I'm not sure I'd describe principles as "not tied to emotion", though. They don't have a specific emotional context the way ties do, but they can certainly inspire emotion, and they're frequently appropriate for ghosts, which I'd consider an essential feature for this warstrider, at least. I could easily see "Lookshy is worth any sacrifice" being the defining principle of a ghost haunting Lookshy, for example. I'd say, when you write up the stuff about not acquiring intimacies not based on emotion, that you don't break it down into ties vs. principles, but rather make it clear that strong emotions are valid for both, but principles can generate a larger range.

                        Originally posted by TheCountAlucard
                        It starts when you use the Evocation. Immediately.
                        Not sure I like that, or at least not if it hits at full intensity immediately. From the perspective of a player fighting this thing, I'd rather have at least a little time to deal with the catastrophe, get people to safety, that kind of thing. Instant, full-blown Pompeii-style all-encompassing volcanic erruption, wiping out thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, seems rather powerful even for Essence 5. Compare it to something like Rain of Doom, which takes an hour to build up, giving opponents a chance to do something about it.

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                        • Starting immediately and hitting full intensity immediately are not the same, mind. How the disaster unfolds from there and how intensely it does so is largely up to the ST.

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                          • Originally posted by TheCountAlucard View Post
                            Starting immediately and hitting full intensity immediately are not the same, mind. How the disaster unfolds from there and how intensely it does so is largely up to the ST.

                            Ok, if it takes some time to build up to full strength, that's better. I'd put that in explicitly.

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