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  • Zhuangzi

    I thought I might try to create an entry for this particular figure from Chinese history in the vein of Kong and Lang. So obviously creative additions and all that.

    Aliases: Master Zhuang, Chuang tze, Master Zhou, The Butterfly,

    The only reason that anyone else knows that he exists is the various scions and progeny he has fathered throughout the ages. Otherwise he is as spontaneous and eccentric as the book he is credited as having written is. Some stories say that he can take various forms although most of them seem to agree that the butterfly is his signature identity, if he even has one.

    In actuality though, the Master is nothing if not resourceful, perfectly using the art of transformation to move among the worlds people and wondering how to mess up their perfectly ordered world. There is no animosity in this endeavor as he is sincere in the belief that order is the greatest danger to all and chaos is the way forward. Sometimes he might argue with a respected academic and insult her. The insult paving the way for the scholar to find new insights in her field of study. In other ways he might cause a casino to go bankrupt, just to see the reactions of all parties depending on it to continue existing. Incidentally this also means when it comes to the existential threat of the titans towards the gods, he often wonders what it would be like for the boundary between the two to cease existing. If Sun Wukong is thought to be a bit mischievious, the Master Zhuang is perhaps the pinnacle of intervention. Fortunately few other gods and titans even know if he is even meddling much less be able to punish him in any way. His scions, however, are another story.

    His progeny is active throughout the world and mostly acts through the extensive diaspora of the Chinese people. Most of them follow their Master's example but must be more careful when inacting their disruptive tendencies onto well-ordered societies and institutions. Many scions, even among the Shen, consider them to be meddlers to the extreme, disassembling centuries of hard work for seemingly no reason at all except for its own sake. Despite this, these scions are good allies to have when it comes to changing the status-quo and breaking down the conventions that seem to be intractable. But don't depend on them too much for long term plans, for they are like the fish of the sea, perceiving what is in front of them as the most important.

    Calllings: Trickster, Sage, Liminal

    Purviews: Epic Cunning, Epic Presence, Artistry (storytelling), Chaos, Transformation




    This is like a first draft and I am not best at English so please bring feedback. Perhaps the callings or purviews could be changed but I tried to add some interesting things for his Scions to do.




    How can I know if what I claim I know to be true is rejecting the idea that there is something I might not know? How can I know if what I claim I don't know to be true is rejecting the idea that there is something I do know?
    -Zhuangzi

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    Very interesting. The divine write-ups for Confucius (Kongzi) and Laozi were based on the fact that both of them are revered as gods by at least some Chinese, with especially Confucius limited to unorthodox popular cults. I hadn't heard about worship of Zhuangzi before, though. Is he considered a shen or xian by some? Or did you just write him up as more of an experiment?

    Also, not to nag, but I'm pretty sure half the Purviews you give him don't exist in the game, no matter the version ...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sacerdos View Post
      Very interesting. The divine write-ups for Confucius (Kongzi) and Laozi were based on the fact that both of them are revered as gods by at least some Chinese, with especially Confucius limited to unorthodox popular cults. I hadn't heard about worship of Zhuangzi before, though. Is he considered a shen or xian by some? Or did you just write him up as more of an experiment?

      Also, not to nag, but I'm pretty sure half the Purviews you give him don't exist in the game, no matter the version ...
      Mostly experimental, though I would like to add that if reverence and graditude are the qualifiers, then he along with many other popular figures of history would most certainly be relevant. It was one of the most interesting aspects of the Shen writeup so I decided to see what or how it might work if I made my own.

      And if we want to avoid creating to many of these aspects, it would probably be quite possible to make this a Mantle of Laozi since his identity is rather mysterious and they both belong to the same school of thought.

      For those that are curious, yes the Daodejing is the most popular work of the Dao sect of thought, but Zhuangzi was still contemporary to that time by all accounts and his works can be interesting to read since they are very much parables and stories as the point of the work rather than just being used as examples.

      I think its most interesting aspect as viewed by European scholars is its dissent of rationalism and positivism. So if you want to read something that does that , its quite recommended.


      How can I know if what I claim I know to be true is rejecting the idea that there is something I might not know? How can I know if what I claim I don't know to be true is rejecting the idea that there is something I do know?
      -Zhuangzi

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