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  • #61
    On page 72, Susano-o has Forge (Metallurgy)

    On page 75, Takemikazuchi has Sky (Thunder)

    RAW neither of these purviews specialize. If they’re meant to be able to like this that needs a rules clarification, and probably some examples in other Pantheons. Only Artistry, Beasts, and Passion specialize like that in the Powers chapter or in the other Pantheon writeups.


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    • #62
      The Sidebar LEGEND, RELICS, AND DENIZENS (page 311) contradicts the Character Creation rules for Legendary Denizens (pg 171)

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Kylar View Post
        The Sidebar LEGEND, RELICS, AND DENIZENS (page 311) contradicts the Character Creation rules for Legendary Denizens (pg 171)

        Specifically page 171 says (non-Scion) Legend 1 Denizens get an innate Purview and Boon, but page 311 makes it sound like they're dependent on Relics for Purviews and it says explicitly they DO NOT get free Boons, exclusively working Marvels via their Relics.


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        • #64
          P. 189: 185: "Your character starts in the center of the Virtue track." 189 does not repeat that information, and it shows an empty virtue track. I propose:
          • Add one dot to the center of the track, to show that this is not a "score"
          • Change the circles in the Virtue track to squares, to indicate that this is something that changes (like a Health or Legend point), instead of a "score" that is constant
          • Add the mark (dot or box) to the center of the Virtue track of each character.

          P. 189: Virtuous condition box
          "Effect: Every point of Momentum you spend to augment a roll with a Virtue receives an additional die..." This is the same wording as paragraph 2 under Virtues (same page). What is not clear is how they intersect.
          Example: If Eric is at the midline, and he wants to act against his fate, he gets two dice whenever he adds Momentum. This is clear. If he is at 100% Audacity, he is incapable of acting fatalistic. Giving up is no longer something he can even conceive of. But when he continues to act Audaciously, does he get two dice per Momentum (no mechanical change from augmenting a roll normally) or does he get three now (augmenting a roll, plus an extra die because of his Virtuous condition)? This is not clear.


          P.191 compared to 171: 191 details legendary titles, which "Every Divine character has..." (191). pp. 171 and following (the ready-made characters) do not show any legendary titles. Unless they each have as their first title "Scion of ___," which doesn't seem to follow rules as written ("Each Calling has a list of associated keywords used to build a character’s Legendary Title....The first Title (for Legend 1) is often related to a character’s Visitation."). At very least, Emanuel Montero would never call himself a Scion. He is Incarnate!

          If the Legend 1 title of each ready-made character is "Scion of ___", either 191 needs to detail that the Legend 1 Title is always "Scion of ____" or change a few pregens to different options. (maybe change Emanuel to "Xiuhtechutli Reborn" and Rhiannon to "Master of the Fire Within"?)

          If the authors choose to make the Title a customization (in the same way that the Deeds are blank), I propose that you call out the fact that the Titles are missing ("To give the characters a personal feel, you have space to choose what Legendary Title was given at Visitation. Choose from the options listed, or make your own following the rules on pages 191-195".), and provide a few suggested titles.

          Also 191-195: Why are there Skills listed with each Calling? I think Failure Deeds need to be actions failed in those Skills, but this is never said in the text.

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          • #65
            Hero pg 223: but a character may only have fve Knacks “active” at a time, corresponding to their Calling dots, until they gain more by rising in Legend. Immortal Knacks are worth two Calling dots to keep active;
            Hero pg 183: while they can learn more, they may only have as many active as they have Calling dots.
            Hero pg 191: Each Calling informs the character’s choice of Knacks. Your character can have one Knack active per dot of each Calling, and they must correspond to the specifc Calling dots. They can buy additional Knacks, but may only have as many Knacks active as they have dots of Callings.
            Page 183 and 191 do not specify that immortal knacks are worth 2 active knacks at a time, instead imply they are treated equally and active knacks = calling dots irrespective of knack type


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            • #66
              Hero pg 315 Under Therianthrope: Feral Hunter: Choose a Heroic or Immortal Hunter Knack.
              - Can this be taken multiple times?
              - Does a Heroic Knack taken by Feral Hunter still count as 2 active knacks towards to total number of active knacks?



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              • #67
                References to Calling Crisis, which apparently isn't a thing:

                Pg 198 - Apprentice Resolve, Balm Resolve
                Pg 199 - Boon Companion Resolve, Canary/Martyr Resolve
                Pg 200 - Jinx Resolve, Nemesis Resolve, Paramour Resolve, Rival Resolve
                Pg 201 - Traitor Resolve, Worshipper/Unrequited Paramour

                Also Scion: Origin, pg 155.

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                • #68
                  • p149 - Persephone’s purviews are separated by slashes rather than commas
                  • The character sheets (for the pregen characters) have two bruised health levels and two injured, instead of three bruised one injured
                  • Movement dice is on the pregen character sheets, thought it doesn’t seem to be a thing in the rules? Unless it means the rushing dice pool?
                  • There are still checkboxes next to skills, though it seems “asset skills” is no longer something that requires keeping track of.
                  • About half of purviews listed with gods aren’t alphabetized (pantheons vary)
                  • p182, 184 - The character creation examples for steps one and seven aren't in sidebars like the rest.
                  • P182 - sentence “if you're having trouble encapsulating a good concept, try” has no end.
                  • P183 - character creation example implies that callings are based on paths
                  • P185 - Is there no experience difference between Heroic and Immortal Knacks?
                  • p200 - Paramour references a “soul knack”?
                  • P196 - Should specify a *player* character cannot have more fatebinding conditions than their legend (before and after you're talking about SGCs)
                  • Most of the fatebindings still mention Crisis of Calling, rather than "Failure Deed"
                  • (As does Origin, p153)
                  • p197 - The mechanical description of fatebindings (“represented by a pair of persistent condintions…”) is still under the header of “multiple fatebindings”
                  • p183 - Do you get 5 Calling dots to spend, or 2+1+1? It says the latter, while I believe Neall has clarified the former
                  Purview/Calling discrepancies:
                  • Heimdall has Creator, Guardian, Hunter in Hero, but Guardian, Hunter, Warrior in Origins
                  • Freya’s Purviews do not match Origins
                  • Tsukiyomi had Stars in Origins
                  • Benzaiten has the purview “Animals” instead of “Beasts” (also in Origin)
                  • Origin has Hotei’s purview as “Passion”, Hero shows it as “Passion (Joy)”
                  • Artemis does not have “Wild” in Origin
                  • Hera did not have “Passion (Fidelity)” or Beauty in Origin
                  • Sarutahiko has 4 callings
                  • Kitchi-Manitou is listed as a god in the Origin reference, and a Primordial in Hero
                  • Nana’B’Oozoo’s purviews are in a wonky order, making Wisakedjak’s Water look like a Chaos specialty
                  • Ptah did not have Prosperity in the Origin reference
                  • Osanyin wasn’t present in the Origins reference
                  • Chang’e had Beauty in Origins reference.
                  • Prince Nezha had Epic Str. in the Origins reference.
                  • Goibniu did not have Health in the Origins reference


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                  • #69
                    page 3: Yukiko had never her speak - seems to be missing a verb
                    page 18: where Quetzalcoatl brought them back life
                    page 19: became known was the
                    page 19: his stead, Grani
                    page 20: for every instance of Ganesh riding in on a mouse to welcome his child to the Shén - shouldn't he welcome them to the Devá instead?
                    page 22: Don't the other structures mentioned here distract you
                    page 30: The Grandchildren (Yoruba: _m_)
                    page 46: The second letter of Völuspa is off
                    page 46, 47, 51: Text after the word Seidr is italicized
                    page 46: loving flyting in the grand halls
                    page 50: Loki felt became enraged
                    page 52 Midgardr is doubled
                    page 72: He challenged Amaterasu to a dual of creation
                    page 172 - 181: Not all of the Birthrights of the Ready-Made Caharcters are described in detail later in tne book
                    page 182: The rules say a skill may only be shared between two Paths, not all three - but the Example contradicts it with Sigrún selecting Occult for all three Paths
                    page 183: The rules make no mention of possible "Attribute overflow" when your Favorite Approach causes one of your Attributes to rise above 5
                    page 183: The numerical values given for Sigrún's Attributes are incorrect - both Manipulation and Composure are too high (should be Manipulation 1 and Composure 3)
                    page 183: The rules say you get four Calling dots, but the Example implies Sigrún has five - it doesn't mention her dots, but she chooses five Knacks, and the Ready-Made Characters likewise have five Calling dots
                    page 183: It's not readily apparent that Hunter is the third Calling chosen for Sigrún in the Example, it's only implied via the chosen Knacks
                    page 184: The Example for Step Seven is not boxed in like the rest of the Examples
                    page 191: The text mentions a fixed distribution of 2-2-1 for Calling dots, when four of the Ready-Made Caharcters use 3-1-1 instead
                    page 217: The layout for Giantsbane is off - with only the name at the bottom at the left column it can be easy to overlook
                    page 237: The entry under Pantheon Motifs lists Amatsukami when they are referred to as Kami throughout the rest of the book
                    page 238: The text color of the example for Offscreen Action doesn't match the other examples
                    page 240: despite their full hearts full of wanderlust
                    page 243/244: In the example for Chaos, the character is named Maeve Whelan in the beginning and Michal at the end
                    page 247: The name of Heavenly Stride has a differing layout, which makes it easy to overlook
                    page 247: The Cost entry for Unerring Flight simply says 1 Legend. Spend or Imbue?
                    page 253, 254, 255, 257, 263: The Cost entry for some Boons (Fateful Connection, Glacial Pace, Enchanting Evening, Phase Cloak, Tugging at Heartstrings and Reborn in the Depths) has a differing layout
                    page 257: They something without realizing it - seems to be missing a verb
                    page 264: The layout of Wyrd's example doesn't match the other purview examples
                    page 276: Should Igbo èzè be bolded like kishotenketsu?
                    page 316: two of the bullet points under Glimpses forward are in italics, the other two aren't
                    Last edited by Xizzillix; 10-31-2018, 05:06 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Page 247 Heavenly Stride lacks the formatting of the other Boons
                      Last edited by Gnomish American; 10-30-2018, 09:58 PM.


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                      • #71
                        The 'Terrible to Behold' SIdebar on page 242 mentions that a God or Scion with the appropriate Title can emulate Boons as Marvels of a different Purview at no additional cost. Only, the Marvels section only has a single cost list for duplicating Boons, no mater which Purview they fall under. So this part probably needs some clarification if any kind of cost difference is expected.

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                        • #72
                          Page 13 - it seems notable how often notable appears in this sentence...

                          Notable for a very notable touch of the Rashomon Effect, where Hercules realizes that he doesn’t actually remem-ber his history, but that it doesn’t actually matter

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                          • #73
                            Page 194 - The Liminal Calling lists Manipulation as one of its skills. There is no such skill, Manipulation is an attribute. Was it supposed to be subterfuge?

                            Page 183 - The example for Attributes make a couple of mistakes. It gives one of the Mental attribute points to Composure, a social attribute. It should instead go to Resolve. At the final attribute scores at the end of the example, Manipulation and Composure each have one dot too many. Manipulation should be at 1 and Composure (assuming the earlier mix up with Resolve is fixed) should be at 3.

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                            • #74
                              Not sure if missing images/pictures, like the ones at pages 122-123 and 184, counts as errata. But I'll mention it here just in case.

                              I also assume the black circle in all the character creation examples is supposed to have some kind of picture in the final version.

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                              • #75
                                Below is the address to a Google doc of what I managed to find for Errata (didn't want to flood the forum). It also includes a master list of "Pg. XX" appearances

                                https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

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