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  • #76
    Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post

    Could you point where in PDF is this quote? I cannot find it in Preview 1 of MotM... I would like to point this to my 'sceptical to Mythos in Scion' players, to encourage my later chronicle idea.
    There’s a whole two page section near the end of Chapter 1 about how the Mythos interacts with other Scions and pantheons. It even has its own title and everything. It seems clear at least one canon interpretation is that the pantheons and the Mythos can coexist in the same World. But I’ll reserve judgment till I read the entire manuscript.
    Last edited by Penelope; 01-22-2021, 03:50 PM.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Hark View Post

      Darkness has only ever had very weak power over dreams. It's not like massive overlap doesn't happen in all of the previews. You can already use any boon from any perview is you can argue how it works with the desired perview.
      No Darkness until now has covered EVERY dream effect. What ever dream effect you wanted to think of, that was a potential Darkness Boon with whatever appropriate Feat of Scale you needed.

      There is already a system for specializing a Purview to get extra effects. If Dreams is being made a separate Purview, Darkness needs a complete rewrite to cover a full Purview's worth of areas influence.


      or maybe Dream is going to be a specialized Purview off of Darkness. We’ll see
      Last edited by glamourweaver; 01-22-2021, 03:55 PM.


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      • #78
        Or Dreams will be simply shapen by every Purview that is applicable to the Dream Scene - like with Arcana in Mage: The Awakening? Dream Scene is about Darkness - use Darkness. Dream Scene is about Health or Cold - use Health or Cold. Simple as that.
        Last edited by wyrdhamster; 01-22-2021, 04:04 PM.


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        • #79
          Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post
          Or Dreams will be simply shapen by every Purview that is applicable to the Dream Scene - like with Arcana in Mage: The Awakening? Dream Scene is about Darkness - use Darkness. Dream Scene is about Health or Cold - use Health or Cold. Simple as that.
          there’s explicitly a Dream Purview, so no that isn’t how it’s going to work.


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          • #80
            What your arguing is like saying fire shouldn't have any influence over emotion because we have a passion perview, yet fire explicitly has power over emotions.

            Dreams are currently cover by darkness only because of the core perviews its the most thematically appropriate. That does not and never has implied that darkness has exclusive influence over dreams. That is what the Dream perview is for.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by glamourweaver View Post
              Hmmm... we were previously told that Arcane Calculus was the PSP, but only some of them have it (and there are other new Purviews like Hibernation, Transference, and weirdly "Dreams" [what would that cover that Darkness doesn't?])... so is there an additional PSP all Mythos Scions have access to?

              Also perplexed how the Cosmos purview exists and Azathoth doesn't have it.
              Occam’s Razor suggests that it’s a sloppy error, like 1e Bastet having the Vengeance purview or first-reveal Fujin in Titanomachy having the Guardian purview. Assuming that’s the case, I’ve already flagged them using the feedback form. I’m open to being wrong, but I really doubt it.

              Though, to be honest, my biggest reason for believing that Hibernation and Transference aren’t new purviews (other than the baffling specificity) is that if they were, why on earth would Cthulhu not have Hibernation?

              EDIT: so that this post isn’t all negative: I actually think creating their own deity, inspired by The Temple, was a gamble that paid off. Albtraum is a fantastic almost-Dionysus, more interesting than just another take on Dagon. The Lord of the Great Abyss almost certainly needs an editing pass for his purviews but the concept is solid. And good on them for including Lilith!
              Last edited by Raz_Fox; 01-22-2021, 07:43 PM.

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              • #82
                How is Albtraum like Dionysus?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by wyrdhamster View Post
                  Horror from Outer Space - Hero to Demigod game ( possible God ) – Using Scion Dragon
                  Myth Level: Heroic ( to /very dark/ Silver, I suppose? )
                  Pulpish horror game – so called Lovecraft Lite. PCs are Heroes in Pantheons. Lately, they uncover that Great Old Ones are coming! PCs need to build Pantheons coalition to beat the literal Horrors from Outer Space…
                  I will mention that Robert E. Howard's Conan stories and its Hyborian setting are tangentally connected to the Mythos, as are a number of his other works (Kull of Atlantis, Bran Mac Morn, etc.), so the idea of heroically pulpish adventurers fighting aspects of the Mythos with swords, arcane lore and other tools isn't unprecedented.


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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Penelope View Post
                    I’m happy 😊. There’s a whole section in Chapter One of Masks of the Mythos about how the Mythos relates to more traditional Scions (and Titans).
                    Penelope And I'm a bit dissapointed. Whole section puts Mythos in context of Scions. Gods. Titans and Primordials of gameline - BUT it's not pointing that even some classical mythology Gods are having very Mythos-like features or actions, stepping on cosmic horror from myths. This section will not convince more traditional Scion fans that Mythos are 'koshere' in setting stories... On the other hand, it does good examples on what Gods vs Mythos relation really is.


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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by No One of Consequence View Post

                      I will mention that Robert E. Howard's Conan stories and its Hyborian setting are tangentally connected to the Mythos, as are a number of his other works (Kull of Atlantis, Bran Mac Morn, etc.), so the idea of heroically pulpish adventurers fighting aspects of the Mythos with swords, arcane lore and other tools isn't unprecedented.
                      Additng those to inspirations lists for all instances of Horror from Outer Space series.


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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Penelope View Post
                        How is Albtraum like Dionysus?
                        One of Dionysus’s lesser-known myths involves dolphins. That, when combined with the dark enlightenment themes and the description of Albtraum’s underwater temple, makes me think of Albtraum as hiding behind such a comparison.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Raz_Fox View Post

                          One of Dionysus’s lesser-known myths involves dolphins. That, when combined with the dark enlightenment themes and the description of Albtraum’s underwater temple, makes me think of Albtraum as hiding behind such a comparison.
                          Wow! Thanks.

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                          • #88
                            So we've hit the goal for Greater Wyrms...which sounds like it would be God-Tier Dagons as Lesser Wyrms were compared to Demigods.


                            Thoughts ripple out, birthing others

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                            • #89
                              Or the Mythos might be a very nasty set of Titans that might explain why the Titans we think of have been quiet. They've been very busy keeping the Mythos under wraps.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by FallenEco View Post
                                So we've hit the goal for Greater Wyrms...which sounds like it would be God-Tier Dagons as Lesser Wyrms were compared to Demigods.
                                I'm all in favor of “God-tier dragons”.


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