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  • How would you do Thuggees in WOD?

    I just watch Indiana Jones and the Temple Of Doom and a thought popped into my mind. How could they work in WOD? More specifically Vampire, Werewolf and Mage. Any suggestions?

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    I am sorry. Anyway, the Thuggee (the Marijava) are the roots of one of the Revenant families and are associated with the True Black Hand. Other cultists work with the Devil Tigers of the KJ or the Euthanatos. I imagine that some of the Bagheera Human Kinfolk were also Thuggee.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post
      I am sorry. Anyway, the Thuggee (the Marijava) are the roots of one of the Revenant families and are associated with the True Black Hand. Other cultists work with the Devil Tigers of the KJ or the Euthanatos. I imagine that some of the Bagheera Human Kinfolk were also Thuggee.
      Thanks. Another one of my questions is this. How could I make them work in modern times as antagonists?

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      • #4
        The Chakravanti (Euthanatos in India) are very much inspired by pop-culture ideas around the thuggee, modified to make them playable as good guys.

        The Eastern Black Hand of course directly shares links with the Chakravanti, the Nagaraja originating in much the same way as the Tremere off of Chakravanti related Mages.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by Killerclown View Post

          Thanks. Another one of my questions is this. How could I make them work in modern times as antagonists?
          I would suggest making them a Sorcerer group that specializes in Conjuration, Conveyance, Divination, Fortune, and Shadowcasting. It would allow them to strangle people from a distance, to appear out of nowhere, to know when their victims are most vulnerable, to give themselves unbelievable lucky breaks, and to be able to cover their tracks.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post

            I would suggest making them a Sorcerer group that specializes in Conjuration, Conveyance, Divination, Fortune, and Shadowcasting. It would allow them to strangle people from a distance, to appear out of nowhere, to know when their victims are most vulnerable, to give themselves unbelievable lucky breaks, and to be able to cover their tracks.
            Would it be weird if I have them be a surviving branch of Thuggees who somehow survived the British cracking down on them and fled to America where they continued their rituals? Also, their rituals take place in a hostel chain they own called White Lotus .

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            • #7
              An ancient assassin sect surviving nowadays in the WoD ? . It would be rarer if they hadn't.

              The sect fled to America?. Like, every supernatural murderous sect in WoD have people there.

              They have a hostel chain?. Well, nightclubs are owned by vampires, I guess the sect can have the hotel industry.

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              • #8
                I would probably have run them as normal humans in a crazy cult without any supernatural influences. I know its boring but I am wary of an influation in supernatural activity.

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                • #9
                  Without other supernatural influences, they would rapidly fall to the Wyrm and become fomori. If they are religious Sorcerers, they will have exorcisms of Hinduism to help protect them. Anyway, it more fun to have groups of assassins with methods that mystify even the Assamites.

                  The Thuggee would commit murders for practical reasons because the majority of Thugs were thieves as well as murders (the religious connections may have been overblown because they were found among Muslims as well as Hindus). The Hindu Thugs may have believed that they performed a holy duty though, by murdering people so that Kali would not destroy the world. In either case, the Thugs will kill the victims of their thefts (either as a cold form of practicality or as a form of sacrifice) and will be willing to be assassins for hire.

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                  • #10
                    There's a Plague of Ratkin that are titled the Thuggee, too.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post
                      Without other supernatural influences, they would rapidly fall to the Wyrm and become fomori.
                      Unless you don't want them to, OP, in which case, they won't. Bane-possession is not an inevitable fate for unpleasant types.

                      Personally, I like having the occasional non-supernatural monster in my games. With all the vampires and werewolves running around, sometimes it is sobering to remember the worst denizens of the WoD can still be completely human.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the advice so far. One piece of advice I got from my brother is making the Thuggees part of a bigger Indian crime syndicate. Also, I was also thinking of having them own a huge hotel in Vegas where they target high-roller guests to be strangled. Would it be strange to have them recruit non-Indian members?

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                        • #13
                          Well, the Thugs were both Muslim and Hindu, so they would be more of a South Asian rather than Indian crime syndicate, as surviving members would have left South Asia before the Partition and would have migrated to Bangladesh and Pakistan during the Partition. Traditionally, they did not seem to discriminate that much, so I imagine that they would be open to anyone of South Asian descent if they were recruited through the traditional methods. Within the USA, they might even recruit non-South Asians, as they would help them to blend into society, though they would probably not be found in the leadership positions

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post
                            Well, the Thugs were both Muslim and Hindu, so they would be more of a South Asian rather than Indian crime syndicate, as surviving members would have left South Asia before the Partition and would have migrated to Bangladesh and Pakistan during the Partition. Traditionally, they did not seem to discriminate that much, so I imagine that they would be open to anyone of South Asian descent if they were recruited through the traditional methods. Within the USA, they might even recruit non-South Asians, as they would help them to blend into society, though they would probably not be found in the leadership positions
                            That is true. Also, these modern-day thuggees would probably still use the classic strangulation technique. Even the non-sorcerer members. That leads me to one question. How effective is using a Garrote on Supernaturals? I know it would do diddly squat against vampire but i wonder how good it would do against other supernaturals. Also, I wonder how easy could it be to hide a Kali shrine inside a hotel-casino in Vegas?

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                            • #15
                              Ghouls' ability to soak lethal damage might come into play, but otherwise they're probably as vulnerable as mortals.

                              Mages and Sorcerers are basically regular humans unless they actively have magic altering them. Which is probably really hard to concentrate on doing once you're being strangled by a garrote, so hope they took their Boy Scouts lessons about being prepared to heart.

                              Werewolves and other shapeshifters still need to breathe, but probably don't have the same issues with concentrating to trigger a form change, particularly when pissed off about someone trying to choke them to death. I imagine things don't end well for a cultist who suddenly finds himself wrestling with a timber wolf or Bengal tiger.

                              Embodied Wraiths are supposed to take damage just like mortals, but I don't know about damage that's specified as being due to suffocation rather than physical trauma since they're not actually alive. Probably a storyteller call on that one. Otherwise, Wraiths shouldn't have to worry much while invisible and intangible.

                              I'm not familiar enough with Changeling to say if they deviate from human norms when it comes to this sort of physical attack.

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