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  • Crowley
    started a topic Hellboy, BPRD and The World of Darkness

    Hellboy, BPRD and The World of Darkness

    i been binge reading Hellboy and BPRD lately and i cant stop thinking on how would Hellboy's universe play out in the World of Darkness.
    (MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD)
    The idea of Rasputin being a Barrabi, ZinCo being a ramification of pentex or a subsidary and the frogs being a new kind of Wyrm tainted Shapeshifter. or BPRD being a "What if the Goverment and the Technocracy collaborated for once."

    i cant stop thinking on how to involucrate The Frogs on my Werewolf game xD

  • Matt the Bruins fan
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    My point, for the context-impaired, is that artists freelance for multiple employers. That doesn't suddenly make the different employers' IP all share the same setting, any more than the same advertising agency designing logos for Harley Davidson and Rolls Royce merges the two companies.

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  • Dogstar
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    >I don't think Marvel and DC would agree.
    Since when have they been 'reasonable', I still remember Marvel suing City of Heroes because it was possible to create vaguely Marvel-like heroes.

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  • Matt the Bruins fan
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    Originally posted by Dogstar View Post
    Technically speaking if two sets of books feature the same artwork then they can be quite reasonably be considered to be the same universe.
    I don't think Marvel and DC would agree.

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  • Dogstar
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    >EDIT: Not to mention Guy Davis, which did tons of drawings for the WoD books, also did a really long run on BPRD. He's really good at drawing monsters, probably one of the best of the whole comic industry and when I first read the comic I instantly thought about all sorts of Wyrm horrors the man has done for WoD

    Technically speaking if two sets of books feature the same artwork then they can be quite reasonably be considered to be the same universe.

    Hence BPRD et al are already in the WoD - it's just that they're not mentioned specifically in the rulebooks (so far...)

    Let's face it if there's room in WoD for Werewolves, Vampires, Mages, the Fae, and any other supernatural races and they rarely clash with each other then there's room for the BPRD too.

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  • BurritoMage
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    Well there is that frog mockery breed in the new book of the wyrm.

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  • BlialCain
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    First, you may enjoy reading Steve Jackson Games supplement which came out about ten years ago. It breaks down many of the supporting cast and has good ideas on expanding on the mythos. I found the system a little stifling though.
    Second, I always thought that the systems for Adventure! covered the setting well, especially with the action/pulp tone so many of the comics had.

    And yes, Guy Davis draws in that one too. Coincidence?!?

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  • Cinder
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    The Ogdru Jahad are/is a multi-headed entity which plans to destroy the world and rebuild it in its image, is the progenitor of all sorts of monsters that inhabit the depths of the earth, corrupts creatures of different supernatural nature, from wizards to fae, has a race of shapeshifters that venerate it and do their best to prepare the world for it and loves green flames.

    It does not get easier than that, people.

    Hellboy and its expanded universe are great and an awesome source of inspiration for all WoD and CoD games. I steal from it more frequently that I'd like to admit


    EDIT: Not to mention Guy Davis, which did tons of drawings for the WoD books, also did a really long run on BPRD. He's really good at drawing monsters, probably one of the best of the whole comic industry and when I first read the comic I instantly thought about all sorts of Wyrm horrors the man has done for WoD
    Last edited by Cinder; 02-20-2017, 09:06 PM.

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  • Aya Tari
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    Now. how do you create the character from BPRD though? I would suggest modifying the rules from Ascension's Right Hand, Hedge Wizard's Handbook, and Sorcerer: Revised in the following ways. First, use the 'Equality for All' character creation rules from Sorcerer: Revised. Second, allow characters to buy the Special Advantages in Ascension's Right Hand with their freebie points. Third, allow characters to trade each level of Paths for seven freebie points, which would allow mundane characters to be the 'best of the best' and allow you to recreate many of the monstrous characters from BPRD. Fourth, modify as necessary.

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  • Black Fox
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    I love Hellboy, and I steal all kinds of stuff from it in my WoD games, especially Werewolf. And yes, the Ogrdu Jahad is pretty big inspiration for how I handle the Wyrm.

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  • Matt the Bruins fan
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    Well, Mignola's Hellboy setting features more traditional fallen angels/demons and evil gods like Hecate too, so there's a big buffet of Evil to pick from. I'd just say the Ogru Jahad themselves (itself?) have about as close a resemblance to the Wyrm as anything fictional I've ever seen that wasn't specifically written for Werewolf: the Apocalypse.

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  • Aya Tari
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    I just like there being multiple sources of evil in cWoD.

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  • Matt the Bruins fan
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    Really? With the Ogru Jahad collectively being the imprisoned "Dragon of Revelation" destined to bring about the end of the world and there being some vagueness about whether it's seven monstrous beings acting together or the multiple heads of a single great being, the equivalence to the Wyrm of W:tA would seem far more direct than such comparisons with most other fictional settings.

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  • Aya Tari
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    The OJ are Celestine-level Spirits trapped in the Deep Umbra the OH are Incarna-level Spirits). I would have them being independent of the Triat, much like the Demon Lords, as they have their own plans. Rasputin would work better as an Infernal-style Sorcerer, just working with the OJ instead of the Demon Lords, as his powers seem to mostly come from the OJ.

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