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    so, assuming the surgery goes well by how many points do you think one should be able to advance on it?

  • #2
    Uh. Well. Whatever the plastic surgery was set to achieve? (Provided it was thoroughly successful).
    Annnd that's pretty much it. You can turn an App 1 person into App 5 if you put enough money and experts on it.


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    • #3
      And enough experience points to pay for the change. Plastic surgery can fail, in some ways horribly, even if it is done for corrective purposes rather than for cosmetic purposes. I have a friend who had her nose done because it was shattered during a car wreck a few years ago, and she is having to have it done again because her body is now rejecting the changes. Sometimes, plastic surgery makes someone accidentally look like a freak of nature or triggers the Uncanny Valley effect after the person heals from the surgery.

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      • #4
        experience points for plastic surgery?? that seems a bit absurd to me. after all a tzimisce(to mention just one of the beings capable of doing it) can do the same much faster,with no scars,with greater safety and needs no xp.

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        • #5
          I generally charge XP for Vicissitude changes as well unless the character wants to suffer horrifying side effects. No one gets a free lunch in my games, and Appearance matters in my games because I rule that in-person or video cam social interactions with sighted humans use the lesser of Appearance and Charisma or Appearance and Manipulation.

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          • #6
            Yeah. If a Tzimisce (or whomever) uses effects to permanently increasing Attributes or Abilities on a player, I charge the player exp for the bonus points to their stats. This often means the player goes into experience point debt (Any exp reward they receive is reduced by 2/3rds until they pay off their debt).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mark View Post
              experience points for plastic surgery?? that seems a bit absurd to me. after all a tzimisce(to mention just one of the beings capable of doing it) can do the same much faster,with no scars,with greater safety and needs no xp.
              You raise an Attribute, you pay xp. Mechanically speaking, it's as simple as that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                You raise an Attribute, you pay xp. Mechanically speaking, it's as simple as that.
                You paid for Vicissitude 1, didn't you? And Vicissitude 1 has only two real applications that properly work and get regular use since they're the safest; disguise and beautification. They take a long time and are prone to failure, but I think it's a fair return on the investment of getting Vicissitude.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post
                  I generally charge XP for Vicissitude changes as well unless the character wants to suffer horrifying side effects. No one gets a free lunch in my games, and Appearance matters in my games because I rule that in-person or video cam social interactions with sighted humans use the lesser of Appearance and Charisma or Appearance and Manipulation.
                  That doesn't make Appearance matter, that makes Appearance an anchor on the neck of social characters.

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                  • #10
                    Humans are terribly fickle creatures, so Appearance is going to matter much more than anyone professes to claim. Supernatural creatures will have experiences with enough horrifying things that Appearance 0 should not matter after the first meeting, but humans should run screaming from entities with Appearance 0.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 11twiggins View Post

                      You paid for Vicissitude 1, didn't you? And Vicissitude 1 has only two real applications that properly work and get regular use since they're the safest; disguise and beautification. They take a long time and are prone to failure, but I think it's a fair return on the investment of getting Vicissitude.

                      true but i didn't pay xp (though perhaps i did pay money) for having the local tzimisce do it to me

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mark View Post


                        true but i didn't pay xp (though perhaps i did pay money) for having the local tzimisce do it to me
                        And that's an RP choice which comes with risks and costs. For example, you could be infected with The Eldest's taint, or the Tzimisce could have used some very subtle power on you without you noticing (slipping a tracking device under your skin while working wouldn't be hard really, for example).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 11twiggins View Post

                          You paid for Vicissitude 1, didn't you? And Vicissitude 1 has only two real applications that properly work and get regular use since they're the safest; disguise and beautification. They take a long time and are prone to failure, but I think it's a fair return on the investment of getting Vicissitude.
                          Vicissitude is a busted Discipline that operates on a "what were they thinking?" level of mechanics.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                            Vicissitude is a busted Discipline that operates on a "what were they thinking?" level of mechanics.
                            Depending on how the ST reads it, it can be perfectly average, horrifically OP or really useless. Level 2, if STed properly, isn't the Combat Power it's cracked up to be. You need to spend a turn grappling before you can start making alterations with Vicissitude, and that's a whole round of staying still and letting others attack you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 11twiggins View Post

                              Depending on how the ST reads it, it can be perfectly average, horrifically OP or really useless. Level 2, if STed properly, isn't the Combat Power it's cracked up to be. You need to spend a turn grappling before you can start making alterations with Vicissitude, and that's a whole round of staying still and letting others attack you.
                              Take too much of what's bolded and you might as well just write your own rules whole cloth. I'm not even concerned about the combat power as such, since it tends to seem like it bottoms out by the time you get to fire breath (as to why that's even there, lol Disciplines).

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