My friend run a Fading Suns campaign for a few years, during which we played children and grandchildren of our original characters (in game terms it lasted about 60 years). And I was wondering if it's possible in WoD. I know that Garou has 10% chance for having a Garou children. I read that many Changelings are spouses of Changeling. Gypsie's kids are often Gypsies. I believe that we could rule out dead characters (Wraiths, Cainites, Demons and Mummies). What about Hunters and Mages? Are there any rules for that? And if not how would you calculate the odds for that (except using ST's privileges)?
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Don't rule out the Cainites. You could play A who sires B who sires C and so on. That way you can have descendents, even if not strictly biological descendents, and so run a dynastic campaign.
A problem could be that vampires lives potentially forever. But that can reasonably be avoided by torpor, Final Death if necessary, withdrawing from politics for a more esoteric, or a higher level of politics that makes them not take part in the kind of street-level activites that it seems like many vampires games are about, or other reasons as to why the Sire is not throwing his, or her, weight around like he, or she, used to.
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Originally posted by Gurkhal View PostDon't rule out the Cainites. You could play A who sires B who sires C and so on. That way you can have descendents, even if not strictly biological descendents, and so run a dynastic campaign.
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Nail Eater the thing about the Romani (“Gypsies”) is SERIOUSLY racist, but that would absolutely be possible for other splats. Garou and Changeling Powers are definitely inherited. Mage powers don’t technically run in families, but there’s no reason one of your kids couldn’t Awaken too. As for hunters, I guess the Messengers could Imbue the child of a hunter as well.
Idk about odds. Math is not my thing. Just handwave it, I guess. Your players won’t know or care.
“No one holds command over me. No man, no god, no Prince. Call your damn Hunt. We shall see who I drag screaming down to hell with me.” The last Ahrimane says this when Mithras calls a Blood Hunt against her. She/her.
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You could do generational chronicles for all sorts of WoD beings. Very often powers can be hereditary, so it makes sense. I wouldn’t worry about the chances of passing along powers or anything like that. You have an idea, don’t let some background fluff technicality keep you from running the game you want. So what if only 10% of a Garou’s children become Garou themselves, your first characters’ children are in that minority.
It might actually be interesting to play this in a mixed group with some long lived characters and short lived one. Someone playing a vampire could keep the same character, someone playing a werewolf could change to descendants. “I used to fight side by side with your grandfather just like this.”
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I like the idea of a descendants game. One work around could be to allow near relatives like nephews and cousins and the like.
Or don’t worry about having dead characters, because you could always say play characters who became supernatural after starting a family.
But the Kinfolk/Kinain connection really build off each other. So you could have every character kinfolk and Kinain no matter if they are Mages or Changelings (well if they are Changelings they aren’t Kinain and werewolves aren’t kinfolk but you know what I mean). And if you just had a one off of a Cainite it could work.
Imagine though the complications if you are a Fallen or Arcadian sidhe, if the family finds out you usurped a soul expect bad blood!
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Originally posted by Penelope View PostNail Eater the thing about the Romani (“Gypsies”) is SERIOUSLY racist, but that would absolutely be possible for other splats. Garou and Changeling Powers are definitely inherited. Mage powers don’t technically run in families, but there’s no reason one of your kids couldn’t Awaken too. As for hunters, I guess the Messengers could Imbue the child of a hunter as well.
Idk about odds. Math is not my thing. Just handwave it, I guess. Your players won’t know or care.
But about the topic, why not instead of Garou just have a Kinfolk Campaign? It is likely that Kinfolk + Kinfolk = Kinfolk with a slight chance of Garou so you can work to build an dynastic empire for Gaia.
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Vampires die. Most Vampires die. IF you take a pair of identical twins who have roughly idendical lives and one is embraced while the other has a natural normal life.. the vampire is more likely to die first.
That some vampire have survived thousands of years is not the norm, its a show of their wisdom, cunning and ultimately luck.
There's also the Modern Salubri method too... for those who want to keep everything in the family!
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Nail Eater I love that movie, but I don’t get the connection between that and what I posted.
“No one holds command over me. No man, no god, no Prince. Call your damn Hunt. We shall see who I drag screaming down to hell with me.” The last Ahrimane says this when Mithras calls a Blood Hunt against her. She/her.
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Originally posted by Penelope View PostNail Eater the thing about the Romani (“Gypsies”) is SERIOUSLY racist, but that would absolutely be possible for other splats. Garou and Changeling Powers are definitely inherited. Mage powers don’t technically run in families, but there’s no reason one of your kids couldn’t Awaken too. As for hunters, I guess the Messengers could Imbue the child of a hunter as well.
Idk about odds. Math is not my thing. Just handwave it, I guess. Your players won’t know or care.Last edited by Nail Eater; 06-04-2020, 06:37 AM.
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Originally posted by Sergeant Brother View PostYou could do generational chronicles for all sorts of WoD beings. Very often powers can be hereditary, so it makes sense. I wouldn’t worry about the chances of passing along powers or anything like that. You have an idea, don’t let some background fluff technicality keep you from running the game you want. So what if only 10% of a Garou’s children become Garou themselves, your first characters’ children are in that minority.
It might actually be interesting to play this in a mixed group with some long lived characters and short lived one. Someone playing a vampire could keep the same character, someone playing a werewolf could change to descendants. “I used to fight side by side with your grandfather just like this.”
And I was thinking about a mixed group saga. As I said I was just wondering.Last edited by Nail Eater; 06-05-2020, 05:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Eldagusto View PostOr don’t worry about having dead characters, because you could always say play characters who became supernatural after starting a family.
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Originally posted by Nail Eater View PostBesides I know that I can use my own rules for that. I was just wandering if there are any rules of inheriting powers for Mages
While mage training it's wibbly-wobbly, Sorcerers can be trained. You could easily have a family that has a sorcerous tradition (which also may keep a Premier as a treasure to increase the chances of mages).
Neither are genetic, but traditions certainly can run in the family - and an old family with an occult tradition can be an interesting background regardless of splat.Last edited by Aleph; 06-04-2020, 09:20 AM.
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