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    So I've been replaying the Huner the Reckoning video game series. I beat the first game again a few weeks ago and am currently playing Wayward. I've just beaten the Rouge Hunter Boss the Wayward Devin. So I go to look at the Model at it lit's his full name as "Devin Lucien". And then I remembered from the ending cut scene of the game that the playable Wayward Joshua says he is going to investigate Devin's father. Cut to 4-5 years(can't remember which) later in universe In the game Redeemer the C.E.O. of Genofex who you learn later is the big bad of the game is named Xavier Lucien.

    So is Xavier Devin's father or was planed to be but the idea was scraped but they forget to change his last name? If anything I'm surprised this has never been brought up before in any disccusion boards about the games that I have seen, and out of all the Hunter creeds a Wayward joining forces with the Wyrm for the "greater good" makes the most sense then any other creed.

    Any thoughts?

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    Seeing as how Waywards aim to kill every last monster that they meet, and that any Triatically-aligned beings are going to be by definition monsters... it'd take a pretty hefty set of derangements to make the Wayward think that it was a good idea to throw their lot in with the Troma mutants and the literally corrupt corporate executives, and the brighter members of this cosmic faction would promptly put a massive number of contingency plans into place to see how long it takes before their new tool explodes in their face. They'll use the hunter like a meal ticket and then throw that unfortunate away. Such is life under the thumb of the Asura facet of existence, rather than the True Destroyer.

    I'm not saying it's impossible, of course. Wayward insanity could make them think that it was a good idea. Accordingly, such an event would be odd and would, in fact, not make any sense at all, except to anyone who shared said Wayward's insanity.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post
      Seeing as how Waywards aim to kill every last monster that they meet, and that any Triatically-aligned beings are going to be by definition monsters... it'd take a pretty hefty set of derangements to make the Wayward think that it was a good idea to throw their lot in with the Troma mutants and the literally corrupt corporate executives, and the brighter members of this cosmic faction would promptly put a massive number of contingency plans into place to see how long it takes before their new tool explodes in their face. They'll use the hunter like a meal ticket and then throw that unfortunate away. Such is life under the thumb of the Asura facet of existence, rather than the True Destroyer.

      I'm not saying it's impossible, of course. Wayward insanity could make them think that it was a good idea. Accordingly, such an event would be odd and would, in fact, not make any sense at all, except to anyone who shared said Wayward's insanity.
      True enough Xavier's motivations in game don't make much sense when you learn he plans to rid Ashcroft of the werewolf population by infecting the world population using Genofex's products to turn people into what appear to be femori, and then accuses you of betraying the hunt for aiding the local werewolfs in order to stop him.

      I'm not sure what Xavier's actual creed is as It's never stated in game or the Manuel. The only edges we see him use are Cleave a first level edge which any creed could get without much cost to their primary virtue, and Word of Power which unless I'm mistaken was an edge made for the console games.

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      • #4
        Word of Power is made up for the video games, but there's a few Edges in the books that would have a similar effect. Spiral (the level 5 Wayard Edge in the books) for example is visually different but largely the same basic idea.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Goblin404 View Post
          So I've been replaying the Huner the Reckoning video game series. I beat the first game again a few weeks ago and am currently playing Wayward. I've just beaten the Rouge Hunter Boss the Wayward Devin. So I go to look at the Model at it lit's his full name as "Devin Lucien". And then I remembered from the ending cut scene of the game that the playable Wayward Joshua says he is going to investigate Devin's father. Cut to 4-5 years(can't remember which) later in universe In the game Redeemer the C.E.O. of Genofex who you learn later is the big bad of the game is named Xavier Lucien.

          So is Xavier Devin's father or was planed to be but the idea was scraped but they forget to change his last name? If anything I'm surprised this has never been brought up before in any disccusion boards about the games that I have seen, and out of all the Hunter creeds a Wayward joining forces with the Wyrm for the "greater good" makes the most sense then any other creed.

          Any thoughts?
          Sorry to bring back so old and forgotten topic but I too plan to run a story set in Ashcroft. I love its history and small town atmosphere. But my knowledge about it is sparse at best, based on White Wolf wikia, walkthroughs, trailers and my memories (I played Wayward long time ago). BTW, I plan to run a story set in the 80's. So this is what I know:

          Ashcroft was established in 1827. In 1865 one hundred of workers were trapped and died in the coalmine. In 1912 35 children dissapeared and only partial remains of 5 of them was ever discovered. In 1946 vampires move to the local prison (so I assume that execution of Arkady was in 1996-98, and the first game is set during Week of Nightmares). But back to the 80's. This is what I assume also: Cornelius Boothe (the one stabbed by Deuce over the body of his moher) is a vampire, possibly Ventrue antitribu or Lasombra. Warden Degenhardt and maybe dr. Hadrian are also vampires, possibly Tzimisce. Nathaniel Arkady (and that's where I got a problem) is a werewolf, some sources claim that he is Carpenter, former mafia hitman, the others (I believe more reliable) that he is not. If the former are right I have some ideas about him except Tribe (I believe that Carpenter is Dennis Maxwell, and in the 80's he could be a Wraith wandering in the prison and city streets. And the most important question: where lies Ashcroft? According to White Wolf Wiki werewolves from Redeemer have Uktena glyphs on them (which suggest southern states), but the environement suggests North. In the first H:tR video game trailer Daily Herald is used and those trains at the station (first level) suggest Chicago, especially if we look at the coal mining in this area (and remember that those miners were killed by a flood).

          Any suggestions? And maybe a map 😉?


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Goblin404 View Post
            So I've been replaying the Huner the Reckoning video game series. I beat the first game again a few weeks ago and am currently playing Wayward. I've just beaten the Rouge Hunter Boss the Wayward Devin. So I go to look at the Model at it lit's his full name as "Devin Lucien". And then I remembered from the ending cut scene of the game that the playable Wayward Joshua says he is going to investigate Devin's father. Cut to 4-5 years(can't remember which) later in universe In the game Redeemer the C.E.O. of Genofex who you learn later is the big bad of the game is named Xavier Lucien.

            So is Xavier Devin's father or was planed to be but the idea was scraped but they forget to change his last name? If anything I'm surprised this has never been brought up before in any disccusion boards about the games that I have seen, and out of all the Hunter creeds a Wayward joining forces with the Wyrm for the "greater good" makes the most sense then any other creed.

            Any thoughts?
            Sorry to bring back so old and forgotten topic but I too plan to run a story set in Ashcroft. I love its history and small town atmosphere. But my knowledge about it is sparse at best, based on White Wolf wikia, walkthroughs, trailers and my memories (I played Wayward long time ago). BTW, I plan to run a story set in the 80's. So this is what I know:

            Ashcroft was established in 1827. In 1865 one hundred of workers were trapped and died in the coalmine. In 1912 35 children dissapeared and only partial remains of 5 of them was ever discovered. In 1946 vampires move to the local prison (so I assume that execution of Arkady was in 1996-98, and the first game is set during Week of Nightmares). But back to the 80's. This is what I assume also: Cornelius Boothe (the one stabbed by Deuce over the body of his mother) is a vampire, possibly Lasombra. Warden Degenhardt and maybe dr. Hadrian are also vampires, possibly Tzimisce. Nathaniel Arkady (and that's where I got a problem) is a werewolf, some sources claim that he is Carpenter, former mafia hitman, the others (I believe more reliable) that he is not. If the former are right I have some ideas about him except Tribe (I believe that Carpenter is Dennis Maxwell, and in the 80's he could be a Wraith wandering in the prison and city streets. And the most important question: where lies Ashcroft? According to White Wolf Wiki werewolves from Redeemer have Uktena glyphs on them (which suggest southern states), but the environement suggests North. In the first H:tR video game trailer Daily Herald is used and models of trains suggests Chicago, especially when looking at coal mining in this area (and those miners were killed by a flood).

            Any suggestions? And map maybe 😉?
            Last edited by Nail Eater; 05-15-2020, 11:53 AM.


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            Pure among the dirt
            Loser among winners

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