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  • #16
    Originally posted by Heavy Arms View Post
    Have you looked at buying a prepaid card? You can load them with cash at an appropriate in-person outlet, and then use them with credit card transactions online. You just have to be careful to make sure the card has enough on it to cover your purchase and all the fees you might not immediately think about looking at the cover price.
    i think we dont have those down here in chile. u.u


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    • #17
      Oh curious what would the imbued look like for their anniversary? With them no longer being brand new, and an entire generation having grown up around them, ideas how that will affect them.


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      • #18
        I have got a doubt... what about 20y edition but soon we will see the new WoD "4th" Ed?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Crowley View Post
          i think we dont have those down here in chile. u.u
          I did some digging... and basically. Some of the banks do it, but you have to have an account with them and from what I could gather it's more of a perk for big accounts.

          Which sucks. Apparently Visa even tried, but I can't find a good English website that explains why it didn't work.

          I never get why companies set up this sort of situation, "we have this useful product, but we only sell it to people that really don't need it, so there's no real demand since 90% of people can't get it even if they wanted it/could afford it."

          Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
          Oh curious what would the imbued look like for their anniversary? With them no longer being brand new, and an entire generation having grown up around them, ideas how that will affect them.
          The 20th books generally don't move things forward. I would imagine H20 would default to moving things up to a more recent date to keep the Imbued a "new" phenomenon (and do things like alter how Hunter-net.org is set up), but I wouldn't be surprised if the book also discusses options for the Imbued being around for 16+ years.

          That said, "how Imbued society evolved in that time," has so many options it seems silly to try to pick one.

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          • #20
            Hunter-Net Apps
            Other than that I think I'd enjoy it more if HtR didnt evolve and kept to its core themes of being alone out of fear and paranoia. Being isolated from what you thought reality and life was before you heard the call. The drive and focus towards inner Conviction in pursuit of your Creed mentality.

            That and they typically have short life spans, I kind of see any Hunter that makes it to a certain point no longer requires things like being social, networking or everyday day life. Kind of like Marvels Punisher. All there is, is the next hunt. Be that for mercy, vision or Zeal.

            But groups and Hunting parties could be established as things. Like the Firelight group for Avengers on H-Net becoming something actively supporting others that follow similar beliefs and practices.

            I'd especially like it if they were still in the dark about the other Splats and Others unaware of them due to the recruiting policy of being normal everyday nobodies with no experience or prior dealings with said monsters.

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            • #21
              Keeping the core themes is actually one of the reasons I think a multiple splat book approach could work. HtR and DtF both have themes that are extremely reliant on the Revised metaplot events resulting in their relatively sudden appearance on the scene of the WOD. They're both games where - at least as PCs - people don't really know what's going on. The state of the characters in 2016 being the same as 2000 without any major changes simply doesn't make sense. You could save a certain amount of space by not have to discuss some of these sorts of overlaps..

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              • #22
                Miscellaneous Others 20th Anniversary Edition, basically?

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                • #23
                  Kindred of the Fallen & Resurrected Reckoning 20th Anniversary Edition?
                  The Other Guys 20th Anniversary Edition?
                  Everything Else Except Gypsy 20th Anniversary Edition?
                  World of Darkness: Give Us the Monies 20th Anniversary Edition?


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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Vysha View Post
                    Kindred of the Fallen & Resurrected Reckoning 20th Anniversary Edition?
                    The Other Guys 20th Anniversary Edition?
                    Everything Else Except Gypsy 20th Anniversary Edition?
                    World of Darkness: Give Us the Monies 20th Anniversary Edition?
                    KotE, even though it had its own developer at one point, is still so enmeshed with V:tM that it would probably fit in under V20.

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                    • #25
                      Of the remaining big games, if we're going to be a bit more serious, the easiest divisions would be two books: HtR and DtF with something like ToJ20 since they're both intimately tied to the events of the ToJ, and MtR and KotE (maybe other options that didn't get a core book too) as something like Immortals 20th; esp. since both are at least in part VtM supplements, and both focus on dead people bound back into their own bodies magically.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

                        KotE, even though it had its own developer at one point, is still so enmeshed with V:tM that it would probably fit in under V20.
                        But that's not true at all. It has more to do with Wraith than anything else.


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by atamajakki View Post

                          But that's not true at all. It has more to do with Wraith than anything else.
                          Yes and no. The fine details and how they differ from Risen (their psyche and shadow split at death rather than staying together and cooperating) are a Wraith thing, but they don't really hang out as ghosts most of the time and their books constantly refer to them as vampires and they use powers named Disciplines, one of which is a plot hook in its similarities to the Salubri's specialty. Lots of their rules, such as for guanxi and Chi enhancement of the body through Shintai Disciplines, also reference Vampire rules (vaulderie/blood bonds and quickening, respectively).

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                          • #28
                            The thing is, while I agree that they are closest to vampires, both mechanically and thematically, its a game that stands alone very well (in terms of themes and such. Mileage varies with the line's various issues, which are neither here nor tgere) and had more stuff written for it than Demon or Mummy (possibly Hunter too, but they are at least comparable). If KotE gets a 20th Anniversary Edition, I would expect it to be more tgan just a VtM sidebook, just due to the amount of info to cover.


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                            • #29
                              While Demon is my favourite (actually the only WoD line I liked), it has severe rules (Torment anyone?) problems as it is. While fixing them would be possible I doubt it would be worthwhile. While we are surely a small and vocal group of fans , let's face it, DtF was a niche product which was cut off at it's height. Also, many people disliked the Demon and religious themes.
                              I dearly wish for a Best of DtF edition, I do not think it is profitable / worthwhile.


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                              • #30
                                I would dearly welcome a KOTE 20 Book too

                                Liked it more then VTM to be honest


                                On demon the fallen, thoughts on new backgrounds that would exist 20 years after their release from their prison?


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