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  • #16
    The fae souls in necessarily finite but it doesn't mean the number is low. I think there is a lot of changeling souls a large part of them not even being incarnate yet (some are in Arcadia, some others are on the Bright Road).

    For the OP, like some said before, don't forget that Satyr have a power that lowers your Banality and lifts your inhibitions.

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    • #17
      I would think that fae souls are potentially infinite, at least as long as there are living humans, because they are born of human dreams and human nightmares. Concerning the genetics of Changelings, I am not sure if Changelings can be born to parents of another Kith. Otherwise, why were there no Sidhe on Earth before the 60s?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post
        I would think that fae souls are potentially infinite, at least as long as there are living humans, because they are born of human dreams and human nightmares. Concerning the genetics of Changelings, I am not sure if Changelings can be born to parents of another Kith. Otherwise, why were there no Sidhe on Earth before the 60s?
        Faerie souls are immortal but not infinite. The world is all but consumed by banality, making it nearly impossible for new faerie souls to come into being. Modern changelings are the dying embers of a once proud race desperately trying to keep the spark of humanity lit in the face of overwhelming despair. Any new faerie souls to come into being during the current times would be a momentous occasion indeed.

        They don't reproduce sexually (except for when they do), so genetics doesn't play a part in creating a new faerie (again, except for when it does). Faerie souls seem to be more attracted to human family lines with faerie blood, so families with faerie ancestry are more likely to have changeling children. Fae of a certain kith may be more attracted to families who share their blood, but there is nothing that prevents a changeling of one kith to be born of parents descended of another.

        There were exceedingly few sidhe on Earth from the time of the Shattering until the late 1960s because the nobility fled to Arcadia just before the two worlds became sealed apart. Most of those who did stay behind weren't able to withstand the onslaught of banality like their commoner counterparts, and were utterly destroyed. It wasn't until the Resurgence that glamour was finally able to regain a little ground against banality, reopening the gates between the two worlds and allowing the sidhe to return to Earth and undergo some form of the Changeling Way.


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        • #19
          As for the goat legs being a turn off, don't forget that changelings are part dream. They see a satyr and a human part of them see a half goat, half human. But the changeling soul in them see a thousand stories of passion, freedom and lust.

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          • #20
            And I imagine that the there are secret furries.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Aya Tari View Post
              And I imagine that the there are secret furries.
              I think its more relevant for enchanted mortals than changelings.

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              • #22
                To put it in Mage terms:

                Every good mage knows that belief is power, even for the Sleepers. It is belief that makes a given spell coincidental or vulgar, belief that shapes what a mage can or can't do. And it is the awesome might of Unbelief that crushes a mystic' supernatural allies, annihilating them for the crime of existing when the Consensus says they shouldn't.

                What most mages never stop to wonder is whether there is a constructive counterpart to Unbelief, something that makes the impossible real. The Sleepers have Avatars, too, after all - they're just not actively shaping the universe.

                The Dreaming is a result of that countering phenomena - "that which should exist, does". Anything enough humans actively belief in, dream about, fear . . .eventually become real (at least chimerically).

                So when an entire civilization is convinced there are sexually ravenous goat-men have orgies in the woods, seducing any woman who wanders by . . . Well, sooner or later, there actually will be sexually ravenous goat-men in those woods. . .

                Originally posted by Nicolas Milioni View Post
                I mean, i am aware that satyrs were always the sexy ones in greek myths. i'ts just hard for me to imagine them still being so sexy in a urban fantasy setting. i just can't imagine anyone actually wanting them in their bed y'know? i'm thinking i'm just small minded
                In the words of Austin Powers. they are "hairy like wild animal!"

                Each kith is born from a specific dream or fantasy, and satyrs aren't a love-type. Reciting sonnets, scattering rose petals on the bed . . . that's sidhe territory. No, satyrs are a sex fantasy. The dream of ripping you clothes off, and just going at it, until the bed collapses around the two of you . . . fifteen hours later.

                A female satyr is never "too tired" for sex, never "has a headache". A male never has "performance anxiety", nor goes soft at an inopportune time. If you want sweet and thoughtful gestures from your partner, look elsewhere. A satyr is for when you want to rut like animals in heat.

                They're everything a bored Greek noblewoman imagined, when she fantasized about some barbarian carrying her off and having his way with her. What every repressed medieval clergyman feared a certain hoofed-and-horned demon might convince his congregation to do. What every modern woman hopes for when she develops a crush on a "fugly" musician, and tries to sneak back stage.

                And that carries through to their kith. On some level, even mundanes recognize a satyr as a wild potential sex partner. After all, that's what the mundanes created them to be.
                Last edited by One Vorlon; 12-15-2016, 09:51 PM.

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                • #23
                  A quick note, the death of Euridice, wife of Orpheus, on greek mythology, were caused by a satyr.

                  In greek mythology, they were a representative of the male impulse, the animus, a primal instinct...

                  Well, basically, Eurídice choose death rather than being raped by this brute male primordial force.

                  So... An unseelie satyr perhaps, translating to C:tD?

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                  • #24
                    I might not be an expert on Changelings...but i know a thing or two about sensualists (Once you party with a Cultist of Ectasy you can understand Everything *Cue Rod Stewart* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hphwfq1wLJs )

                    personally, i think its mainly because they are the most laid ones, the ones who can appreciate the simplest things. I belive that they like to...how to put it....live by enjoying the passion's of life and showing it by being -not constantly aroused- but enjoying the moment...

                    The Dude Abides sort of deal. but if you can mix some kinky in there, well... all the better, after all life is to celebrate


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Nicolas Milioni View Post
                      Hey guys,i've been rereading changeling 2ed and i can't for the life of me understand it. Why are the satyrs considered the most sexually active kith? y'know, the goatpeople . It really boggles my mind and kinda breakss my suspension of disbelief. How come a person with goat's legs can be sexy? how is that even a thing??? does any of the two first editions of the books explains it?


                      Because Satyrs in mythology are commonly depicted as being highly sexual creatures. The Greeks believed that they spent most of their free time drinking wine, playing music, and screwing Nymphs. Also, Pan (the most famous Satyr) was a God of Love in ancient Greek mythology.

                      Fun Fact: the male equivalent to Nymphomania is called "Satyriasis."



                      Originally posted by Nicolas Milioni View Post
                      I mean, i am aware that satyrs were always the sexy ones in greek myths. i'ts just hard for me to imagine them still being so sexy in a urban fantasy setting. i just can't imagine anyone actually wanting them in their bed y'know? i'm thinking i'm just small minded
                      1 - It's not like they're going to appear in full splendor in front of every mortal they come across.

                      2 - It's not like the other Kiths are in any position to judge! Pooka are pretty much the same thing, just on a much broader scale. Trolls are seven foot tall, horned giants who might just split you in half. Redcaps are shark toothed edge lords who wear blood stained clothing. You can see where I'm going with this?

                      3 - You would be shocked at what people find attractive enough to sexualize.
                      Last edited by Nyrufa; 07-28-2017, 12:58 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post



                        Because Satyrs in mythology are commonly depicted as being highly sexual creatures. The Greeks believed that they spent most of their free time drinking wine, playing music, and screwing Nymphs. Also, Pan (the most famous Satyr) was a God of Love in ancient Greek mythology.

                        Fun Fact: the male equivalent to Nymphomania is called "Satyriasis."





                        1 - It's not like they're going to appear in full splendor in front of every mortal they come across.

                        2 - It's not like the other Kiths are in any position to judge! Pooka are pretty much the same thing, just on a much broader scale. Trolls are seven foot tall, horned giants who might just split you in half. Redcaps are shark toothed edge lords who wear blood stained clothing. You can see where I'm going with this?

                        3 - You would be shocked at what people find attractive enough to sexualize.
                        Makes sense, thanke

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                        • #27
                          They have extra stamina bonuses and athletics bonuses. Do the math.

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                          • #28
                            I read a paper once that mammal pheromones are pretty close to each other and goats release theirs constantly. So the Greek farmers who herded them saw their goats get it on a lot and... I hate to add this: since it's pretty close to human and other mammals, they still put it in perfumes since it actually works a little.
                            That's the scientific explanation for mythology. I'm now gonna burn all perfume bottles that I find!
                            Also: You are thinking a bit too... realistic. Changelings are fairies and formed by dreams and desires. If the dreaming decides that Satyrs are kinda sexy... well... their goat parts won't be realistic, they will be idealized in a way that makes them non-repulsive.

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                            • #29
                              I'm not attracted to anthro stuff, but if I met the right satyr I think I could get passed it. Especially if the legs as silky rather than bristley.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by zenten View Post
                                I'm not attracted to anthro stuff, but if I met the right satyr I think I could get passed it. Especially if the legs as silky rather than bristley.

                                Bishounen Satyr Boy.



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