So this came up as part of a tangent in the Vampire forums. I figured I'd ask if this sounds right to anyone here, since there will be people here who are much better versed in Changeling than I am. (I've edited the quote to leave out some non-chimera focused tangents)
So I guess my question specifically, is do you guys think any part (or reflection) of a Chimera (Not a Changeling) goes to the Shadowlands/Underworld/Dark Umbra upon its death? I had always assumed this was handled entirely within the realm of the Dreaming.
It's not that the quimera will sink in the Dream and surface into the Shadownlands.
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it's not that the "soul" of a Chimera is thrown into the Shadownlands after chimerical death; you're taking a too much literal approach to a very subjetive tópico. No, the destroyed chimera's "soul" does not go to the Underworld - but it may create a lasting shadown of it's former self there.
So, probably the vast majority of gnomes that roam in the dream, are only generical chimeras, not especial enough to create a significant plasmic shamdown in the underworld. When you kill one of those, they are GONE. However, when Sigfried killed the mitghy dragon Fafnir on the norse myth, you can be sure that a shadown of Fafnir had enough emotional ressonance, or enough psychic power, to create an plasmic encarnation of Fafnir into the Shadownlands. It's not the same creature however, in a literal sense, the chimerical Fafnir was slain and forever gone, and the plasmic encarnation of Fafnir in the Shadownlands is just a being that were "birthed" in the womb of the Void, without having ever existed in the material world or the Dream previously. For the plasmic Fafnir, however, that would all sound like metaphisical bullshit (not the real Fafnir? You puny mortal... I lived on the Dream for thousands of years before that bastard Sigfried tossed me into this forsaken hell, but one day I'll return to enact revenge!), since the creature will keep the all the memories and personalities it had before it's "birth". It's like a mirror - the imagem looks exactly like you, but it is not you.
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You are interpreting metaphisical ideas as physical processes. They are not. Dimensional Science will teach you that just fine
So, in a sense, the "soul" of a chimera can go to the Shadownlands. But not in a literal sense. No more than I enter a mirror when photons hit me, hit the mirror and get back to me, the "psychic waves" caused by a strong chimera can cast a mirrored shadown of itself in the Underworld. Ghosts, after all, are exactly that - psychic emanations strong enough to make an cohesive manifestation on the Shadownlands.
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it's not that the "soul" of a Chimera is thrown into the Shadownlands after chimerical death; you're taking a too much literal approach to a very subjetive tópico. No, the destroyed chimera's "soul" does not go to the Underworld - but it may create a lasting shadown of it's former self there.
So, probably the vast majority of gnomes that roam in the dream, are only generical chimeras, not especial enough to create a significant plasmic shamdown in the underworld. When you kill one of those, they are GONE. However, when Sigfried killed the mitghy dragon Fafnir on the norse myth, you can be sure that a shadown of Fafnir had enough emotional ressonance, or enough psychic power, to create an plasmic encarnation of Fafnir into the Shadownlands. It's not the same creature however, in a literal sense, the chimerical Fafnir was slain and forever gone, and the plasmic encarnation of Fafnir in the Shadownlands is just a being that were "birthed" in the womb of the Void, without having ever existed in the material world or the Dream previously. For the plasmic Fafnir, however, that would all sound like metaphisical bullshit (not the real Fafnir? You puny mortal... I lived on the Dream for thousands of years before that bastard Sigfried tossed me into this forsaken hell, but one day I'll return to enact revenge!), since the creature will keep the all the memories and personalities it had before it's "birth". It's like a mirror - the imagem looks exactly like you, but it is not you.
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You are interpreting metaphisical ideas as physical processes. They are not. Dimensional Science will teach you that just fine

So, in a sense, the "soul" of a chimera can go to the Shadownlands. But not in a literal sense. No more than I enter a mirror when photons hit me, hit the mirror and get back to me, the "psychic waves" caused by a strong chimera can cast a mirrored shadown of itself in the Underworld. Ghosts, after all, are exactly that - psychic emanations strong enough to make an cohesive manifestation on the Shadownlands.
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