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What makes something Gallain vs Kithain vs Adhene etc...

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  • What makes something Gallain vs Kithain vs Adhene etc...

    Thallain are servants of the Fomorians who look like perversion of Kithain yes? Adhene are generally Fae who fought for the Formorians but some who didn't because reasons. Inanimae are "Changelings" who put their souls into objects rather than people. Hsien are just wierd.

    So what makes something fall in the Kithain category? Nunehei and Menhune(sp) see to be essentially the same as Kithain but having minor cultural differences vs vast mechanical ones like Inanimae or Adhene. This is especially true for say the Mer. Yet they are treated as a completely different type of thing for purpose of Arts. If its just a matter of cultural connection Eshu really were African Fae for the longest time why aren't they basically Ghallain?

    Hsien are not creatures of the Dreaming(or are they post c20) should the be effected by the Fae realm at all?

    Adhene, Nunehei and Menhune all have theirown separate title system so they can use Fae as a realm normally they just swap groups around, but Thallain can they only effect Kithain(and be effected by Kithain) at Fae 4? IF that's the case doesn't that sort of seriously screw over the whole "hiding among Kithain" thing?
    Last edited by Lian; 02-11-2017, 05:51 PM. Reason: about the Fae realm

  • #2
    Good questions!



    • #3
      Changeling could be divided into two broad categories: Dreaming Changelings and Umbra Changelings. Dreaming Changelings maintained their connection to the Dreaming. Umbra Changelings exchanged the connection to the Dreaming for a connection to the Umbra.

      The Hsien would be considered to be the earliest of the Umbra Changelings. During prehistory, they seemed to have abandoned the Dreaming in exchange for service to the spirits of the High Umbra. During the beginning of the Fourth Age, they failed in their service and were banished to the Material world, where they were forced to learn to gather Yugen and travel the Umbra without the blessings of their patrons in the High Umbra.

      The Nunnehi and Menehune are Changelings who bonded with the Middle Umbra after the destruction of their homelands in the Dreaming and after Arcadia sealed their gates to them. They could be considered to be indigenous Changelings because their births follow bloodlines and they are fully reborn with each life. Other forms of indigenous Changelings may exist, but they never got around to listing them.


      • #4
        It's familiarity and exposure. Menehune and Nunnehi are culturally isolated from kithain. Eshu are much more frequently in contact with other kithain as a side effect of trade and colonialism. Likewise, there are tiny numbers of adhene and thallain, and only slightly more inanimae. The hsien, finally, don't exist outside Asia, IIRC, so kithain almost never encounter them.

        Someone did a population post not too long ago, and eshu were among the most populous kiths--perhaps because they represent a homogenised fairytale 'other' rather than a very specific cultural trope. Menehune and Nunnehi are practically invisible by comparison. So it makes sense that the more numerous and frequently encountered kiths are Kithain, and the less numerous and more isolated kiths are Gallain.

        Gallain itself is also a nebulous word. There are the warped 'evil' kiths: the Thallain. Adhene are perhaps similar in some senses to Thallain, but never had two Unseelie legacies. It looks like Thallain won't just be double-Unseelie either in C20, so I suppose the difference is that the adhene are primal, but not specifically fomorian or perverted in the same way as Thallain. But both are still traditionally considered Gallain. That might change when the Fae Realm gets rewritten, though.
        Last edited by adambeyoncelowe; 02-16-2017, 04:18 AM.