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  • #16
    It's a pity the old CtD-crew never got around to do Nordic kithains (The Troll are in an odd way not at all like Nordic trolls but more of a honorable non-fomorian version of a Hrimthurs (Frostgiant)).
    The Huldra/Skogsfru would be a perfect Kith. I once tried to do a sourcebook, but failed along the way:
    https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...EU?usp=sharing

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    • #17
      Instead of detailing more and even more kiths to be specific to any individual fairy tale they found, it would have been better to make each of the original kiths more archetypal. Pooka should have been for any faerie that was an animal - not just tricksters. That would have covered any number of animal brides, talking animals, and others. "Satyrs" should have been any creature which combined parts of human and animals - not just satyrs, but centaurs, mermaids, harpies and so on. Leprechauns are simply Irish cobblers - so they are boggans. No need for their own kith. And any non-European faeries/invisible people/little people should follow the same kiths for the same reason.

      That they needed to create however many hundred plus kiths is just an indication of poor design to begin with. It's too bad because it didn't need to be that way. They were very close to achieving the elegance of the rest of the game line. There was some room for expansion, but they could probably cover almost any archetype with about twelve kiths at most.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Black Fox View Post
        Instead of detailing more and even more kiths to be specific to any individual fairy tale they found, it would have been better to make each of the original kiths more archetypal. Pooka should have been for any faerie that was an animal - not just tricksters. That would have covered any number of animal brides, talking animals, and others. "Satyrs" should have been any creature which combined parts of human and animals - not just satyrs, but centaurs, mermaids, harpies and so on. Leprechauns are simply Irish cobblers - so they are boggans. No need for their own kith. And any non-European faeries/invisible people/little people should follow the same kiths for the same reason.

        That they needed to create however many hundred plus kiths is just an indication of poor design to begin with. It's too bad because it didn't need to be that way. They were very close to achieving the elegance of the rest of the game line. There was some room for expansion, but they could probably cover almost any archetype with about twelve kiths at most.
        They appear to have realised this themselves, as they went with something similar to that proposal for Changeling: The Lost (Seeming as archetype, Kith as more specific example).


        Scion 2E: What We Know - A wiki compiling info on second edition Scion.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Black Fox View Post
          Instead of detailing more and even more kiths to be specific to any individual fairy tale they found, it would have been better to make each of the original kiths more archetypal. Pooka should have been for any faerie that was an animal - not just tricksters. That would have covered any number of animal brides, talking animals, and others. "Satyrs" should have been any creature which combined parts of human and animals - not just satyrs, but centaurs, mermaids, harpies and so on. Leprechauns are simply Irish cobblers - so they are boggans. No need for their own kith. And any non-European faeries/invisible people/little people should follow the same kiths for the same reason.

          That they needed to create however many hundred plus kiths is just an indication of poor design to begin with. It's too bad because it didn't need to be that way. They were very close to achieving the elegance of the rest of the game line. There was some room for expansion, but they could probably cover almost any archetype with about twelve kiths at most.
          I know, but part of Changeling's appeal was the vast number of kiths. It's irrational but so are people.

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