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  • Originally posted by Saur Ops Specialist View Post

    Perfect to be playful; we shall call you P.

    You could just say I'm taking the piss.

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    • Originally posted by Theodrim View Post

      I dunno, penii would surely get pretty big without invoking disbelief. There's that one guy in Mexico with a 19-inch ding-dong, men with 13-14" gigglesticks show up in the news fairly regularly, and porn and the internet has normalized (by way of advertisement and PR, not reality) 9-11" heat-seeking moisture missiles. I'm sure beef bazookas could easily hit the foot-long, coke can, range without batting an eye at the 'Dox chart. Thanks, Technocratic Consensus!

      Hell, James Deen has an eight-inch ween, and to look at him with his clothes on you'd think he'd be packing five, six inches tops.

      [EDIT: Not to mention, penile implantation and enhancement surgery is commonly-known, if not practiced. Based upon the twenty seconds' worth of Googling I just did, apparently there are now heat-activated robo-yogurt cannons on the market now, in addition to the older inflating and/or rod-equipped models. Considering that, there are probably tons of fun things Techno-magi could do to their oyster probes without invoking the spectre of Vulgarity. As in getting Paradox, as I'm sure Technocratic cyber-beefsticks are vulgar by definition.]
      Isnt this beautiful that this thread had so.much right over which favorite splat has a bigger dick to a conversation trully about penis enhancement? If such i declare the mages victory for their natural hability to improve such large, or small, area.

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      • Vampires coming second because Potence and blood pump...


        So, this Zen Master walks up to a hot dog stand and says: "Make me one with everything!"

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        • Originally posted by Enginseer-42 View Post

          Depends on if you have Blood Treachery or not.

          Blood Treachery did a lot to make Ghoul Mages a terrible idea.

          Some new group that just branched over into mage from their vampire game and only has the core book? Given blood treachery is a tad obscure. To the point I'm not even sure the name I'm using is right...

          The default Merit merely says that completing seekings is harder. Not impossible, and no mention of Arete loss is there. The primary downsides are Resonance based. Your resonance will change to static and entropic to match the vampires you're feeding off of. Which is at worst a conditional modifier to your spells.
          Blood Treachery's final chapter is a long screed in which a snarky writer tells STs how to punish players who dare to buy a 6 point merit, and expect it to have benefits or strengths. Before long, vitae becomes this Avatar-Be-Gone juice which gradually erases all of your mystical potential and leaves you a wasted wreck. I'd compare it to cocaine, but there are mages can blast through 50 lines without suffering any ill consequences, since that's basically how they do magic. Throw your soul into a gap in reality? Your magick is inverted now, sure, and you're completely ruined on a spiritual level, but you can still perform magick perfectly well. Take a sip from the cold arm of a human infected by a curse from some random middle eastern high umbral spirit? Well if you do THAT you're completely fucked.

          Honestly that whole section is a lesson in the downsides of an adversarial stance where the players are seen as being out to get you, sneaking in dangerous and broken mechanics which will break your poor defenseless game. This mage has 1 extra dot of strength and can heal bashing/lethal damage without paradox? Won't somebody think of the children!?

          A good Mage ST will either say no to the Ghoul merit ("I don't want that optional merit in my game") or will treat it as a powerful merit with some built-in flaws. You get some """free""" quintessence, some paradox-free powers, the direct involvement of a modern-day immortal slave-owner (hurray!), a huge mystical crush on them, harder seekings, and the potential to gain a lot more power by bridging the gaps between kindred and mortal. For example, nothing to stop a ghoul mage with Prime from specializing in being a sort of cannibal, feeding on creatures which have vitae for power.

          p.s. When blood treachery isn't laying into the Ghoul merit, it spends time introducing the Nephilim/Laham merit, which is somehow cheaper than being a Revenant, more powerful, and has fewer downsides. Mages who have innate powers from Vampiric influence? Awful. Mages who are powerful because one of their parents was a spirit? Amazing! I really love Nephilim, but I hate the audacity they show by complaining about Ghoul and then presenting an even more OP equivalent in the same chapter.
          Last edited by 11twiggins; 06-11-2018, 03:33 PM.

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          • Originally posted by menos125 View Post

            Isnt this beautiful that this thread had so.much right over which favorite splat has a bigger dick to a conversation trully about penis enhancement? If such i declare the mages victory for their natural hability to improve such large, or small, area.
            M20 does literally call the "old fashioned" means of dealing with powerful spirits a "metaphysical dick measuring contest". And lest we forget, one of the Powers in Fomori, Freak Legion, is genitalia which do unsoakable lethal damage. This can mean "my vagina has an internal meat grinder, goodbye poor human", but it can also mean "my dick is a foot and a half long when erect, and my ejaculate is boiling hot".

            VtM dabbles a bit here. Goratrix emasculated himself for a ritual, and struggled to get his mojo back afterwards, even using magic to reacquire his lost equipment. The thread in which this was being discussed was capped by a comment saying "I find it quite refreshing that we're arguing over the status of the genitals of a vampire wizard who died in 1997".

            Finally, M20's "Enchanting Feature" mentions that any part of you, or feature of your body (eye colour, voice, lips, hair, musculature, hips) counts for the merit. It then says "please be tasteful folks".

            "Okay so I'm using my massive dick in this ritual, that's a -2 difficulty since it's a unique personalized instrument-"

            *Spits out drink*
            Last edited by 11twiggins; 06-11-2018, 02:20 PM.

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            • Originally posted by 11twiggins View Post
              "Okay so I'm using my massive dick in this ritual, that's a -2 difficulty since it's a unique personalized instrument-"
              Suddenly Goratrix sacrifice makes so much more sense....

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              • Originally posted by Aleph View Post

                Suddenly Goratrix sacrifice makes so much more sense....
                What's funny about the ritual is that one of the adepts supporting it started vomiting halfway through, due to the emasculation part, so Goratrix (with a bleeding crotch) calmly slit his throat and carried on with the ritual.

                I think we can assume in MtA terms that the ritual botched, hence his "unique" instrument being irreparably damaged.
                Last edited by 11twiggins; 06-11-2018, 03:19 PM.

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                • Blood Trechery is really just shit. It not only decides to take Ghoul mage out back and kill it because being able to spend as much xp as it would cost to master a sphere on Potence 1 is so over powering it also has crap like the Nephalim merit.. which is also another 7 point flaw you pay for with Bonus points.. This is before we get into the new rotes that are just.. silly.

                  Chaos Butterfly for example litterally does ANYTHING for example.

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                  • Hey all right, this got necro'ed right into another "Goratrix cut his dick off" thread. It was about time for another one of those, the last one got pretty epic.

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                    • Originally posted by Theodrim View Post
                      Hey all right, this got necro'ed right into another "Goratrix cut his dick off" thread. It was about time for another one of those, the last one got pretty epic.
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DCz1SgByDM

                      Rare footage of a Hermetic invisibility ritual.

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                      • Something I forgot to mention about Freak Legion's "creative" genitalia Power. The damage being unsoakable is just thrown out there, with no caveat.

                        RAW, in the WoD, the vaginas and penises of Fomori can, in some cases, inflict damage which will even harm Methesulahs with Fortitude 9. After all, they can't soak the damage. I doubt there are many tables where "okay we just need to find a bane-infested human who can, well, dickslap this ancient vampire to death" will fly, for mechanical and ethical reasons (if not because of poor taste), but the mere fact that it's possible on paper is something I find hilarious.

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                        • I thought it was only unsoakable if you had put yourself in a.... delicate position with them?

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                          • Originally posted by Enginseer-42 View Post
                            I thought it was only unsoakable if you had put yourself in a.... delicate position with them?
                            The text does heavily imply that, yes. 90s Werewolf games were wild by the looks of it.

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