Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Novel Paradigms (Everything is Music, Everything is Narrative)

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Novel Paradigms (Everything is Music, Everything is Narrative)

    So I may be splitting hairs, but would it be worth defining "Everything is Music" and "Everything is Narrative" as alternative paradigms? Rather than saying they're sub-paradigms of Everything is an Illusion.

    - So in Everything is Music, the fundamental nature of the universe is that it is a song which we can't interpret because it is being played in multiple auditory dimensions, songs within songs, where there are not only an infinite number of instruments but also multiple types of sound which seem (to the uninitiated) to be totally different to sound. Ascension is Mass Harmony. Everyone agrees on the right song and plays their parts, even if unknowingly. Barabi of this Paradigm seek to spread discord and ruin existing Harmonies. Typically found in the Cult of Ecstasy, I should think?

    Their Awakening is realising that music has the power to change things. Due to the rise of Pop Music, underground sub-cultures and mass media, more and more are Awakening with this Paradigm, realising in one crystal clear moment that changing someone's heart is as simple as singing the right song.

    Focus is typically a genre of music. Affinity Sphere is typically Mind, since it is key to most Awakenings.

    - In Everything is Narrative, the universe is just one big story. Oddly enough, this is Correct. The people are characters, the narrative is the work of some grand Storyteller (or Storytellers?). The Awakening is typically linked to discovering the power of storytelling. A story written by a Sleeper might come true in a burst of Wild Talent (Entropy), or they may see how Stories can teach people important lessons (Mind). Mass Ascension would be finding the story which finally captures the human condition and elevates people to a higher state. Barabi of this Paradigm would tend towards horror tropes, forming the most twisted and sick narratives imaginable and then bending the world to suit them.

    Focus is a type of storytelling. Affinity Sphere can be Mind (winning hearts and minds with a Story) or Entropy (rewriting the world's narrative a la Plot Convenience... the hero can always see that hidden weakness, always runs into the right person, and the cavalry always turn up at just the right moment).

    Since these Mages believe they are part of a story, they tend to be... dramatic. An ST may bar a concept where the Mage believes they are in a TTRPG, if this would break the Tone.

    Are these overly limiting as Paradigms? Like I enjoy them on paper, but I'm imagining the whole "I sing to do Magick" thing getting boring pretty quickly. Same with actually needing to "rewrite" reality with the written or spoken word.

    My assumption is that it would be like a Religious Paradigm. The Music-Mage doesn't need to audibly sing or perform (although it helps since it's a Unique Focus or Familiar Focus, and it could count as Mystic Threads), the Writer-Mage doesn't need to write anything down, they can do it internally the way a Chorister might. For reference, the Writers refer to Mythic Threads as Plot Threads ;-)

    Paradox: Backlashes arise when the user tugs too hard on the harmony or narrative. Nasty backlashes can include being deafened (Music) or being cast into a realm of anti-narrative (a "story" (realm) where narrative convenience is utterly disregarded, interactions are mundane and lack their vital spark, dramatic tension is broken by coughing and slow wifi and the news isn't turned onto the Plot Information when you turn it on...).

  • #2
    Well, String theory of real world physics is related to the idea of "everything is music".

    I don't consider string theory to be real science (yet, at least), but it is there. Everything is made up of tiny vibrating strings (and what is a song if not vibration?)

    Comment


    • #3
      Also, in the mythology of Lord of The Rings, Eru-Illuvatar (God, The One) creates the Vala, the Primal Powers, the Old Gods, and Eru-Illuvatar asks the Vala to sing a song. Their harmonies would create the world.

      The oldest of the Vala, Melchior, wanted to impress his father, and being the oldest son, tryed to gain greater importance in the song of the Vala. Thus became the disharmony of Melchior. In time, others would try to immitate his song, and the primal song became a chaotic noise, with those Vala that would try to keep the initial theme-song of Eru, and Melchior and his followers who would try to ruin his brothers song.

      And, over time, Melchior would be called Morgoth, the sinister Enemy. The master of Sauron the unholy (defeated at the end of the first age by the other Vala and imprisoned outside the circles of the world).

      Comment


      • #4
        The "everything is a narrative" looks like Deadpool speaking directly to the reader of his comics. That's a Paradigm that is VERY close to Marauder state.

        That being said, the Mage doesn't need to become marauder to have it... He just need to keep his sanity. But it's easy enough to snap.

        That's close to the idea of "Bhrama's Dream", that we are just the dreams of a God.

        Now, about those getting boring... Yes, I must advise you that this can very well be the case. Perhaps it's better to have them as NPCs, to throw a "banshee" as an adversary of the PCs, or have them facing the terrible NARRATOR, whom very words become alive

        Comment


        • #5
          I came up with a character idea (well, more like an idea for a whole Faction of the Cult of Ecstasy, but let's keep the explanation simple) that basically built itself around the belief that the world we humans experience is a dream. That everyone who is "alive" is actually in a shared dream, with our "real selves" being asleep in some higher plane of True Reality. When a person "dies", it's them waking up in the true reality. But eventually, after they've been awake for a time, they go back to sleep, and begin a new dream, where they are "born" someone else. What we call "Mages" are simply people who have shaken from their stupor, and are now dreaming lucidly.

          The in-universe rationale behind this Paradigm was that it was a Victorian era Englishman's attempt to make sense of Indian belief systems, and the ideas of reincarnation and illusory reality. This being why the character/faction would end up in the Cult of Ecstasy, or possibly the Euthanatos (some dreamers ruin the dream for everyone else, and sometimes these people need to "wake up"). It's also an attempt to make sense of Death, as it posits that people don't die, so much as stop dreaming for a time. It's not intended to make light of human suffering or loss - the Dream still matters, and dreamers should always strive to make it a good dream. It just means that the world around us shouldn't be taken too seriously, or assumed to be unchangeable.

          Indeed, much of this Paradigm's application in Focus revolves around understanding that sleepers (that is, everyone in the Dream) are the masters of the Dream, and changing it through application of dream logic. My character/faction would combine elements of Hinduism/Buddhism, the works of Lewis Carrol (Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass) and H.P. Lovecraft (his Dream Cycle), the 20th century Surrealist movement, and even tech-based explorations of dreams like from Inception. I'm imagining a man walking around, deliberately putting on the Affect of a half-awake person, carrying game pieces and bags of treats labeled "Eat Me", leaning on a croquet mallet repurposed as a cane. Teleporting by climbing into mirrors, cracking open eggs to summon live birds, and reciting nonsense poetry to influence people's minds. In desperate situations, he might pinch his cheek, "waking up" in his bed at home (emergency teleport).


          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Bluecho View Post
            I came up with a character idea (well, more like an idea for a whole Faction of the Cult of Ecstasy, but let's keep the explanation simple) that basically built itself around the belief that the world we humans experience is a dream. That everyone who is "alive" is actually in a shared dream, with our "real selves" being asleep in some higher plane of True Reality. When a person "dies", it's them waking up in the true reality. But eventually, after they've been awake for a time, they go back to sleep, and begin a new dream, where they are "born" someone else. What we call "Mages" are simply people who have shaken from their stupor, and are now dreaming lucidly.

            The in-universe rationale behind this Paradigm was that it was a Victorian era Englishman's attempt to make sense of Indian belief systems, and the ideas of reincarnation and illusory reality. This being why the character/faction would end up in the Cult of Ecstasy, or possibly the Euthanatos (some dreamers ruin the dream for everyone else, and sometimes these people need to "wake up&quot. It's also an attempt to make sense of Death, as it posits that people don't die, so much as stop dreaming for a time. It's not intended to make light of human suffering or loss - the Dream still matters, and dreamers should always strive to make it a good dream. It just means that the world around us shouldn't be taken too seriously, or assumed to be unchangeable.

            Indeed, much of this Paradigm's application in Focus revolves around understanding that sleepers (that is, everyone in the Dream) are the masters of the Dream, and changing it through application of dream logic. My character/faction would combine elements of Hinduism/Buddhism, the works of Lewis Carrol (Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass) and H.P. Lovecraft (his Dream Cycle), the 20th century Surrealist movement, and even tech-based explorations of dreams like from Inception. I'm imagining a man walking around, deliberately putting on the Affect of a half-awake person, carrying game pieces and bags of treats labeled "Eat Me", leaning on a croquet mallet repurposed as a cane. Teleporting by climbing into mirrors, cracking open eggs to summon live birds, and reciting nonsense poetry to influence people's minds. In desperate situations, he might pinch his cheek, "waking up" in his bed at home (emergency teleport).
            That kind of Paradigm truly makes murder very... Acceptable.

            Well, Euthanatoi don't see anything wrong with murder to begin with, no matter what

            Comment


            • #7
              These are all awesome! How about a Paradigm where the world is just a Purgatory. It's simply a test of the Soul. The real existence is a world where people's performances in this world are tallied up and they are sent to the right place. Suffering in this realm isn't real. Happiness in this realm doesn't matter. It's all a test of your Mettle. Those who die without being adequately tested are recycled.

              Every soul faces a unique challenge, and those who Awaken with this Paradigm realise that it is their task to oversee the testing. Some deliberately fight against it, however, seeking to fight against their own paradigm effectively, fighting against a world which is a cage for Souls.

              Primary: Mind (seeing the truth of someone's worthiness, and how they must be tested), Entropy (shifting probability to craft a test)

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by 11twiggins View Post
                These are all awesome! How about a Paradigm where the world is just a Purgatory. It's simply a test of the Soul. The real existence is a world where people's performances in this world are tallied up and they are sent to the right place. Suffering in this realm isn't real. Happiness in this realm doesn't matter. It's all a test of your Mettle. Those who die without being adequately tested are recycled.

                Every soul faces a unique challenge, and those who Awaken with this Paradigm realise that it is their task to oversee the testing. Some deliberately fight against it, however, seeking to fight against their own paradigm effectively, fighting against a world which is a cage for Souls.

                Primary: Mind (seeing the truth of someone's worthiness, and how they must be tested), Entropy (shifting probability to craft a test)
                That's a very fitting idea for the most fanatical of groups like CC and Euthanatos... And again, that's the kind of thing that allows for all sorts of barbaric actions.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Another one: the gnostics in our real world. Their interpretation of christianism is, this world is the world of Satan. Satan rules in this material world, and we must free ourselves from his domain, in order to reach the paradise.

                  That means that all Earthly powers belongs to the Enemy... Which meant... That the Roman Church, being one of those powers... Was an instrument of Satan.

                  No wonder they were hunted down to extinction

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Karlgust View Post
                    Another one: the gnostics in our real world. Their interpretation of christianism is, this world is the world of Satan. Satan rules in this material world, and we must free ourselves from his domain, in order to reach the paradise.

                    That means that all Earthly powers belongs to the Enemy... Which meant... That the Roman Church, being one of those powers... Was an instrument of Satan.

                    No wonder they were hunted down to extinction
                    Setites believe something similar. Well, the Eldest among them do. And Set is simply a tool to fulfill the dream of breaking the Spirit cage. Slowly corrupt it. Wake up Set. Break free from the Reality Cage. They're basically the good guys ;-)

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 11twiggins View Post

                      Setites believe something similar. Well, the Eldest among them do. And Set is simply a tool to fulfill the dream of breaking the Spirit cage. Slowly corrupt it. Wake up Set. Break free from the Reality Cage. They're basically the good guys ;-)
                      I did not know that. Interesting.

                      That's not so far from what the nefandi believe either.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X