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  • #46
    Altough a mage prepared to fight and willing to take Paradox head on is scary even for an Elder.
    One talisman and one Familiar can take up to 50 Paradox for the mage.


    So, this Zen Master walks up to a hot dog stand and says: "Make me one with everything!"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Nonsense View Post
      Altough a mage prepared to fight and willing to take Paradox head on is scary even for an Elder.
      One talisman and one Familiar can take up to 50 Paradox for the mage.
      50 paradox PER TALISMAN.

      Such a master will have hundreds of talismans

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Karlgust View Post

        50 paradox PER TALISMAN.

        Such a master will have hundreds of talismans
        Well no, he wouldn't. Talismans need an investment of one Permanent Willpower point in order to finish. If it were an Artifact (functionally the same as a Talisman, but without its own Arete score, making it not usable by the unAwakened), he could make as many as he liked. But a Talisman is costly in a way that isn't easy to replenish. Even assuming that a mage can invest Willpower and raise the Trait again an unlimited number of times (so long as he has the XP to cover the cost), it's not likely for even our hypothetical Master to have done so too many times. Let alone likely that he'd WANT to, given that Talismans, having a shard of its creator's enlightened Will, have crazy strong connections to them for the purposes of Correspondence and other Sympathetic Magic.

        All of which is moot, since a Master like that would just create Periapts (Quintessence Batteries), which can hold considerably more Paradox than a typical Talisman, and can be left at Nodes to bleed those Paradox points off over time. If the Master had a fairly potent Periapt or two on them, they could go all out and only worry about putting them away after the immediate threat is dealt with.


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        • #49
          If after 50 Paradoxpoints (in short order) the heat is still on, then a Master is certainly wise enough to retreat...

          Periapts can hold Paradox, sure. But it isn't explicitly stated that the Paradox goes into the Periapt before checking if an backlash occurs. Familiars and Talismans(for their creator) are able to do exactly that. (According to FbDF).


          So, this Zen Master walks up to a hot dog stand and says: "Make me one with everything!"

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          • #50
            Yup, it still helps to show how Paradox isn't such a limiting factor as some may believe.

            The battle it's going to depend on much subtler factors, like how the vampire and the mage chose to fight each other and the resources they can spend safely (without becoming target for the other mighty enemies/treacherous allies that they surely have)

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