V5 Character sheet?

[Mr Gone]

Hey everyone...question. I had someone send me a tweet about the V5 character sheet:

https://twitter.com/Bubba_Tweets/sta...20566246912001

Is that the sheet that is in the book?




Edit: I decided to do my own version of the sheet. I posted a link on page 3, but thought I'd edit this post and add it here, just make it a bit easier for people to get.

http://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/pd...nteractive.pdf

[Mr Gone]

Just so y'all know, I updated the V5 sheets to include the Lasombra and their Discipline in the clan and discipline drop down menus.

[Mr Gone]

Awesome. The four pages rock for detailing the PCs contacts, etc. Thank you so much!

You're very welcome! I'm glad to hear you like how it turned out!

Was fun sorting these out with you, thanks very much for that. As I said before, fantastic work! And just in time for me to make use of all of them for my V5 game, too.

Oh cool! Well, we got it out just in time then!

And yea, it was great working on these with you, so I appreciate the help!

[Red Eye]

Was fun sorting these out with you, thanks very much for that. As I said before, fantastic work! And just in time for me to make use of all of them for my V5 game, too.

[Ruthven]

Awesome. The four pages rock for detailing the PCs contacts, etc. Thank you so much!

[Mr Gone]

Hi again everyone! Thought I'd let you know I now have 4 page sheets for V5! Just so you know, instead of a separate expanded backgrounds section(like the old VtM sheets), there is now a backgrounds section set up much like the way that Disciplines are, so you record the background and then have room to add the expanded info for it. It also has a slightly expanded Haven section.

I also created a Coterie/Domain add-on sheet!

I really hope y'all like how these turned out. It's possible these could change slightly if I see anything that might need an improvement. But, I wanted to get these out there for y'all to start using.


Special thanks to Red Eye for letting me bounce some ideas off of him.

You can download them at my site: http://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/vtm5thed.html

[Mr Gone]

Oh...just so y'all know, I updated the sheets again. I added more health and willpower and added some drop down menus in a few places.

[Mr Gone]

My first thought concerning an interactive sheet was "I wonder if Mr.Gone is still working his magic?" Sure enough, you didn't disappoint. I've always used your sheets, and I'm thrilled that you've taken the foray into making a 5th Edition sheet.

Awww....thanks! I'm glad you've been using the sheets for so long...and I'm glad you liked how these have turned out so far.

I do have a minor request, it's carving out a place on the sheet you made or adding an expanded history page that allows the inclusion of a photo.

It's funny, years ago I played around with a type of form field called a button, that allowed you to select a picture. But, it only appeared to work for people who had Acrobat pro, so I never fully implemented that field. But, when I was working on the Lore sheets I had someone tell me that option would work in Acrobat Reader now, so I included it in the lore sheets.

I'm thinking for the 4 page sheet I'll include it in the bio section(kind of like the old vampire sheets character sketch section). Sound ok?

Thank you for all your wonderful sheets over the years.

You're very welcome! Always glad to help.

[Ruthven]

My first thought concerning an interactive sheet was "I wonder if Mr.Gone is still working his magic?" Sure enough, you didn't disappoint. I've always used your sheets, and I'm thrilled that you've taken the foray into making a 5th Edition sheet. I do have a minor request, it's carving out a place on the sheet you made or adding an expanded history page that allows the inclusion of a photo. Thank you for all your wonderful sheets over the years.

[Mr Gone]

Oh, Also! Just thought I'd let you know I made a little tweak to the Vampire V5 sheets. Per some discussions here, I moved the Hunting line from page 2 to page 1. I also removed a few Weapons lines and made some room for a small Haven section on page 2. Hope you like the update!

http://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/vtm5thed.html

[Mr Gone]

Hi!

First of all I am glad to know a reference in the WoD! And by reference I mean that I have seen some of your work actually referenced in storyteller's vault community suplements, like the sheet on questions to make a solid character. Great work!

Thank you! I'm glad to hear you're liking the sheets!

About V5, I am still reading it and there's some stuff that I don't like, such as fixing age and generation at character creation or the way dice rolls work, and some other stuff I really enjoy, like the new hunger system that makes hunger and its associated anxiety much more present.The same with the edition. As an example, it is cool to have 8 character drawings of each clan. It would been cooler though if those didn't represent the same archetype. Overall it seems they tried to simplify things for newcomers, and they went too far away.

Yea, as with most new editions, I think there are probably things people really like about them, and things they don't care for. I haven't actually had a chance to read through the book just yet, only skimmed. I'm not sure I'm digging the art direction of the book...but, it could be that I just don't read modern RPG books these days, so maybe I'm just not used to a new style.

But this thread is about the sheets and here are my two cents:

In the 4th character sheet, where you were discussing to add Haven, Domain and Coterie related stuff, I would like to point that not only Domains but Havens have their own Advantages, with flaws and merits. They have things like dreadful or haunted house, library of occult, escape ways, guards, security system, luxurious equipment and so on. It was about a dozen or so list. Here, unlike other backgrounds, I don't think expanding would be useful. The description of the haven should be good enough to describe it and mention what it has.

This could complicate things though, specially if we are considering distinctions between personal and communal havens, and where they should go. Having character's Advantages on the top and Haven's at the bottom? I don't know how are you making the coterie page, so you'll know better.

Yea, I saw that were some extra advantages when it comes to havens, and I took that into account with the 2 page sheet update I'm doing. There is a small section to include some of those. Granted, it's just a small section, but should be ok as far as a 2 page sheet goes. Though there isn't a description section per se, just a line to write where it is. I'll of course add some more room for all of that for the expanded 4 page sheet...which I have some ideas for. So, hopefully y'all like it when you see it...

For the 2 page sheet, there is that Notes section, so at least there is some room to write some extra info if need be.

[Strangelove]

Hi!

First of all I am glad to know a reference in the WoD! And by reference I mean that I have seen some of your work actually referenced in storyteller's vault community suplements, like the sheet on questions to make a solid character. Great work!

About V5, I am still reading it and there's some stuff that I don't like, such as fixing age and generation at character creation or the way dice rolls work, and some other stuff I really enjoy, like the new hunger system that makes hunger and its associated anxiety much more present.The same with the edition. As an example, it is cool to have 8 character drawings of each clan. It would been cooler though if those didn't represent the same archetype. Overall it seems they tried to simplify things for newcomers, and they went too far away.

But this thread is about the sheets and here are my two cents:

In the 4th character sheet, where you were discussing to add Haven, Domain and Coterie related stuff, I would like to point that not only Domains but Havens have their own Advantages, with flaws and merits. They have things like dreadful or haunted house, library of occult, escape ways, guards, security system, luxurious equipment and so on. It was about a dozen or so list. Here, unlike other backgrounds, I don't think expanding would be useful. The description of the haven should be good enough to describe it and mention what it has.

This could complicate things though, specially if we are considering distinctions between personal and communal havens, and where they should go. Having character's Advantages on the top and Haven's at the bottom? I don't know how are you making the coterie page, so you'll know better.

[Mr Gone]

Mr Gone do you do sheets for homebrew stuff? I had an idea for an extra sheet for V20 where all of the Vampiric curses (burning in sunlight, red fear, frenzy, problems with eating/drinking, clan/bloodline curse) are given space, with Severity rating from 1-5.

So the first space would have an empty name for the name of the clan weakness, and a space where you can write down a quick summary of the rules for it, and Severity rating from 1 to 5.

The other spaces would have the words written in already. Weakness to Sunlight, Red Fear, Frenzy, Food to ash and water to brine... and the exact starting values may vary. 14th generation has a severity of 2 for sunlight, not 3, and 15th has a severity of 1, for example. Everyone else has a severity of 3 unless they're an Elder PC/NPC, in which case it may be higher.

Hi! Yea, sometimes I take requests. So this is kind of like an add-on sheet? I can add it to my to-do list.

If you wouldn't mind, send me an email to mrgonejediknight (@) gmail.com with the request and it'll help me keep better track of it.

Thanks!

[11twiggins]

Mr Gone do you do sheets for homebrew stuff? I had an idea for an extra sheet for V20 where all of the Vampiric curses (burning in sunlight, red fear, frenzy, problems with eating/drinking, clan/bloodline curse) are given space, with Severity rating from 1-5.

So the first space would have an empty name for the name of the clan weakness, and a space where you can write down a quick summary of the rules for it, and Severity rating from 1 to 5.

The other spaces would have the words written in already. Weakness to Sunlight, Red Fear, Frenzy, Food to ash and water to brine... and the exact starting values may vary. 14th generation has a severity of 2 for sunlight, not 3, and 15th has a severity of 1, for example. Everyone else has a severity of 3 unless they're an Elder PC/NPC, in which case it may be higher.

[Mr Gone]

I'd probably lean towards the Interactivity in this case, allowing for a couple "Title" spots so that people can better denote which Backgrounds they are making notes about (as this may well vary from character to character, and we have enough Backgrounds in the game that I don't think we'll be able to have a spot for each one). So, this kind of covers all the bases at once.

Cool. Kind of what I was thinking.

If this goes down the way I have it pictured in my head then yes, as the spots for "Havens" in the Domain could be 1) not your personal Haven so you still need a spot for recording that 2) a Coterie communal Haven while you still have your own, and 3) the personal Haven has a few more details you'll want to note than with the other random places in most cases.

I think with that in mind it would still be good to have the page 2 version for players who find themselves in one of those very possible situations.

Oh, I'm definitely keeping the 2 page sheets, I just more meant if we need the Haven part on page 2 of the proposed 4 pager....which it sounds like we might need.

I'm behind that since we're obviously not the only two using these. But, yea, I never made full use of that space so I'm personally happy to have it reduced down.

Yea, I'm curious what other people think about it... hopefully we'll get some input.

Either way, love the work you do with these sheets. Pretty sure I've been using your version of sheets for a good number of years now at this point as they are a clearly marked improvement from the official ones.

Well thank you! I appreciate you using them for so long! I do try to make them as good as I can...and yea, I always thought I'd tried to better than the official(unless I made the official, which has happened before) but I might have been biased. lol

I honestly think it is a little sad they haven't just reached out to you to design them some official content of this quality.

Yea...me too. Though, I have made several of the official sheets for Onyx Path before, so that's been cool. Guess the new White Wolf guys just figured it'd be easier for them to do it their own people... ah well...

Another thing I was thinking of now, is we might consider having denotations on the sheet for when certain things might cause special impacts in game.

For example of this, with Hunger we might want to make the box borders around the 4th and 5th boxes be red. This is because starting at the 4th point of Hunger you need to be concerned about Hunger Frenzy rolls (sight, smell, and taste of blood will trigger a need to roll to resist, and at the 5th level you also need to roll on any failed Rouse checks too).

That is the only one offhand that I can really think of being potentially worth demarcating somehow, but it still seems like it could be of benefit.

Hmm....might be something to consider. I could change the color of those easy enough...