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How difficult is it for a Former Shovelhead to establish himself in the Sabbat?

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  • How difficult is it for a Former Shovelhead to establish himself in the Sabbat?

    if he manages to earn True Sabbat Status, how difficult is it probably to establish himself, especcialy if he wants to do something other then direct warfare, become an influencer or such, rather then the Junior officer who LEADS cannon fodder, or slightly less disposable, seasoned Soldiers.



  • #2
    Generally speaking? Not any harder than anyone else. Once a Shovelhead manges to become a True Sabbat Cainite, their negative status goes away. They might have some lingering prejudice, but plenty of Sabbat will respect their strength for making it as well.

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    • #3
      and in a way, if you started as a shovelhead and show competence, you actually make a stronger argument ICly because of how low you started and how high you are projected to go. Sabbat thrives on adversity and proving oneself over and over again. Someone who starts off as a simple throw away tool with no teachings is expected to fail and die.


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      • #4
        was I right the easyiest path for them is the trainer of the next batch of "Throwaway tools"

        or junior officer who commands them?


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        • #5
          In my opinion it depends on the nature of the campaign. If everyone is a shovel head, then yes they have the advantage in that sense. If it's a mixed then the officer may have the advantage by merit of access to additional resources/intel (presumably)


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          Street Fighter: Generation Next 2nd and 4th Friday nights 8 pm PST to 12:00 am (-7GMT)
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          • #6
            The "easiest" path is whatever they're actually good at. Shovelheads are effectively selected at random as victims of opportunity. Whatever skills and aptitudes let them survive, and thrive, as a Sabbat until recognized as True could be anything the Sect values, and would dictate where they would be best focused for further advancement.

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