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  • There are only three entries for the Willis Tower. None of the vampires in the city seem to have a haven in the building, nor is it a highly of anyone domain. This feel like an oversight.

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    • Does the history section detail any of Chicagos history of Labor agitation? Not going to lie, one thing I miss from 1st edition was the history of American Socialism reflected in each generation of Brujah lineage.

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      • Originally posted by Zorin001 View Post
        Does the history section detail any of Chicagos history of Labor agitation? Not going to lie, one thing I miss from 1st edition was the history of American Socialism reflected in each generation of Brujah lineage.
        Alas, all of the socialist Brujah and Nosferatu are gone.


        Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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        • Pity, though I wasn't expecting that to make a comeback.

          I will bring a few of my old favourites back when I run Chicago again, I read somewhere that Gauguin of all people gets a mention as being alive?

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          • Originally posted by Zorin001 View Post
            Pity, though I wasn't expecting that to make a comeback.

            I will bring a few of my old favourites back when I run Chicago again, I read somewhere that Gauguin of all people gets a mention as being alive?
            Sadly, no. It's just an identity Son uses to disguise his plans.


            Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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            • Here's a idea I'm thinking for Lodin's survival:

              Lodin's Survival

              By. C.T. Phipps

              Lodin always had a trick up his sleave and that was his plan to fake his death in order to escape the Lupine's wrath and return to a Chicago that had been cleaned of the "deadwood." He even had let the locations of many Anarch havens fall to the Lupines while kidnapping numerous Kinfolk with Balthazar meant to guard them (as seen in "Under a Blood Red Moon").

              The trick to this was Andrew, who was a mortal that Lodin had been grooming on the side for just this occassion. He was someone who had naturally looked a great deal like him and had been altered further with the assistance of a mage that Lodin had made contact with through Nicolai in Chinatown (and had traded "leave me alone" for this minor favor). Lodin's doppelagnger was convinced he was the real Lodin via extensive Dominate, memory alteration, and conditioning before his Embrace. Indeed, Andrew had served as Lodin's double in numerous society functions with the Prince of the City testing to see whether it worked. It did indeed with even Annabelle having been fooled by the perfect lookalike that wasn't even aware he was an imposter.

              If this sounds like an insanely crazy move, I should point out plenty of RL dictators have body doubles and Lodin KNEW how much his subjects hated him.

              This is where things get murky as SOMEONE died in Lodin's mansion that night a decade ago with a very strong likelihood it was Andrew playing a part. However, there's a not insignificant chance that the people led to Lodin's mansion by Al Capone had actually came to the real Lodin's home while he was preparing to bug out the city.

              Which would make the surviving Lodin, Andrew.

              Either way, the plan was a monumental failure because while escaping the city the survivor was captured by the Sabbat. While Wendy Wade was eager to sup on his 7th or 8th generation blood, Phillip Riguard overruled her and ordered him sent down to Mexico City for interrogation instead. Lodin was tortured beyond his wildest limits by the Tzimisce and Toreador Antitribu. Anything he knew about the Camarilla he gave up quickly along with many other secrets before he started making up things. Then they tortured him more until he was left a broken shell that was forgotten and fed vampire blood as well as the occasional drug addict.

              Until the city was freed by the Sabbat.

              The surviving Lodin was actually freed by Edward Neally of all people before being brought back to Chicago in the back of a trunk. Lodin escaped from his "rescuer" and has been only back in Chicago for the past couple of years. While it would be easy to dismiss Lodin as hopelessly insane, it's actually surprising to say he's getting better. The aggravated wounds and deformities he's suffered are about half the level they've used to be and the dozens of mortals he's drained dry (done slowly and over a course of months) have helped clear his head. It's, ironically, his wayward child Kevin Jackson that has restored his memory to its semi-full faculties, though.

              IF he is the real Lodin then it is jealousy and hate over one of his children (and the non-white one no less) taking "his" throne that is finally clearing his mind. The new Lodin may be half feral but he's learned quite a bit from his Sabbat tormentors.

              Like the fact he will do anything to survive and return to power.


              Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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              • Does the Lasombra write up go into any details on the refugees relationship (if any) with the existing Lasombra Antitribu?

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                • Originally posted by Zorin001 View Post
                  Does the Lasombra write up go into any details on the refugees relationship (if any) with the existing Lasombra Antitribu?
                  The only hint seems to be that Talley and the Lasombra murdered all the Lasombra Antitribu around Chicago but Mikael before coming to negotiate.


                  Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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                  • So pretty standard for the ex-Sabbat Lasombra then. Wonder if Montano is still around or has he been beckoned to the Castle of Shadows?

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                    • Originally posted by Zorin001 View Post
                      So pretty standard for the ex-Sabbat Lasombra then. Wonder if Montano is still around or has he been beckoned to the Castle of Shadows?
                      I think he was killed in-story ages ago.

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                      • Baby Chorus

                        Type: Group

                        Review: Baby Chorus is an interesting coterie to do an extensive write-up about because while they've always been there, I've never really been inspired to do a story about them. This is largely due to the fact, well, they're a band. There's plenty of things you can do with a band but it's not something that automatically lends itself to Gothic Horror. Mind you, I've always a lot of fun with Baby Chorus and I've generally described their music as a cross between Sisters of Mercy and AC/DC depending on whether Damien (Sisters of Mercy) or Kathy (AC/DC) was the dominant
                        creative voice.



                        I like the depiction in this book, however, because it is one that highlights how Baby Chorus is a bunch of vampires attempting to recapture the glory of their Neonate days, even though it's only making it worse for their humanity as well as the vampires around them. Damien desperately wants to go back to the 90s and made a deal with the Devil to do so. Kevin Jackson wants the propaganda bonus of Baby Chorus playing at the Succubus Club for all the good little Camarilla drones.

                        The problem is that it's all an illusion and a perfect representation of why Kindred nostalgia is so dangerous. It's also an interesting commentary on a book which is trading on nostalgia. The changes make it more adult, more interesting, and also slightly darker. You can never go home again and Baby Chorus is a bunch of vampires desperately trying to. The price for Baby Chorus to exist again is Damien brutalizing their Anarch friends and Kathy Glens is doing her best to keep her head in the sand about how many he's possibly murdered. She adopts a strict policy of neutrality, even saying she'd perform for the Sabbat if they paid and followed their rules. The thing is, that kind of neutrality is no longer possible and the very choice of not standing against the Camarilla is a choice in itself.

                        Baby Chorus is also a band that should be very much at the tail end of its career with Kathy's mortal mien being in its early fifties. It's like an Aerosmith concert today. There's a lot of fans and people who want to hear them but they've aged out of the demographic they're trying to appeal to. It's also an age of digitized music that means that they're a lot bigger potential Masquerade breach than they were when they were an underground club band in the nineties.

                        A bizarre twist is the fact that Evan Klein is suffering from the fact that he's trying to fill the role of Raymond Falcon in the band. Kathy thought this would be therapeutic but it's causing him to start believing Evan Klein isn't real any more than the other personas. Honestly, I wasn't aware Evan Klein WAS any more real than the others.

                        I like the fact that Garwood Marshall's wraith is apparently haunting the band as well (or is potentially just him remote viewing).


                        Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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                        • I wonder why the band never hit it big and also what was the name of their second album.

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                          • Well the text actually says Baby Chorus could very easily be internationally famous like Victoria Ash was briefly in the 90s (a very strange little reference from ETERNAL HEARTS--God, I hate admitting I owned and read that).

                            However, they've been told that if they ever did break big then they'd be killed for violating the Masquerade.

                            And unlike Victoria, they can't get away with it.


                            Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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                            • I was just making a Simpsons reference.

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                              • Originally posted by Grumpy RPG Reviews View Post
                                I was just making a Simpsons reference.
                                YOU NEVER KNOW!



                                Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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