First of all I've found this interesting Web Comic by Spearhafoc which is a huge crossover of almost every 19th century literary and Public Domain Vampires
Now the point is inspired by this web comic I've been thinking of this idea for a long time that what if Kindred are not the only Vampire types that exist in the world and especially if there's Vampires that are not Kindred at all that exist in the world?
For example, Bram Stoker's Dracula at least his novel incarnation although Dracula already exists in VtM but as a Tzimisce but honestly I never liked how it treated Dracula but rather in the novel, Dracula actually turned himself into a Vampire via occultist means as in black magic and alchemy he learned from the Scholomance hence why he's able to walk in the sun unharmed but it weakened him or without resorting to fortitude and pretty much has Methuselah/Antediluvian/Caine like levels of raw power (probably not disciplines but rather closer to True Magic from Mage especially from Arcane Knowledge) but greatly vulnerable like catholic imagery immediately repels or harms him regardless the faith of the wielder, can't enter a home without invitation, can only sleep in native soil, has no shadow, no refection on any reflective surfaces, can't show up in cameras and even portraits of him crumble over time, can't cross running water, and his eyes glow inferno red when gets pissed off or engaging in Vampiric things, etc.
Especially Carmilla herself though that she's also able to walk in the daylight but of course she has to sleep in a coffin or confined space of her victims blood, she's also repelled by Catholic Imagery regardless of the wielder especially Hymns harm her as well, Of course she change into a giant black cat, walk through solid matter like noclip mode and can open locked doors and such and how she became a vampire is that she actually died after being drained by a Vampire in the chest after her birthday ball whose related to Karnstein blood (like Count Karnstein) who committed suicide who was evil in life as so as they say.
Especially I don't think this scene is possible in VtM.....
Of course there's also 19th century literary vampires like Carmilla, Lord Ruthven, Clarimonde, Sir Francis Varney, etc since all of them walked in the sun with no problem either just like Dracula especially Ruthven and Varney can be killed via normal means but they can be brought back to life the rays of a Full Moon hence another reason I never liked how VtM handled both Dracula and Ruthven since they discarded their original source material and turned them into Kindred pretty much despite their differences. Hell there's even a obscure Vampire novel written in 1867 called "Vampire City" by Paul Feval which contains one of the most bizarre vampire incarnations to exist in literature which "Otto Goetzi" belongs to this strange breed which they basically glow green, they drink blood through their tongues, they make duplicates and "sub vampires" or "vampirculs" when they kill a mortal which they all merge together and they also function like biological clockwork which they have a hole in their chests which needles are used to "twink" them back into action if they get harmed that is not to mention there's a entire Vampire City in Yugoslavia called "Selene" which is shrouded in eternal night with a Full Moon always overhead as well.
Basically in a world where different variations of Vampirism exists, I guess Kindred make up the majority but I guess they also persecute other Vampires from other variations as well?
Especially it would make sense that VtM Kindred burn in sunlight, have a beast that they all must adhere rigid moral guidelines like Humanity, Paths, Roads, etc, They're all descended from Caine hence "Cainites" that get weaker with each generation, they can blood bond and create ghouls (while other variations of vampires can't) since Kindred/Cainites have a beast they all frenzy as well while other Vampires like Dracula, Carmilla, Ruthven, etc don't. Now imagine Dracula grabbing a rampaging Kindred in Frenzy by the neck and saying "So the beast, that's your bane not mine..."
Now imagine that as a possibility....
Now the point is inspired by this web comic I've been thinking of this idea for a long time that what if Kindred are not the only Vampire types that exist in the world and especially if there's Vampires that are not Kindred at all that exist in the world?
For example, Bram Stoker's Dracula at least his novel incarnation although Dracula already exists in VtM but as a Tzimisce but honestly I never liked how it treated Dracula but rather in the novel, Dracula actually turned himself into a Vampire via occultist means as in black magic and alchemy he learned from the Scholomance hence why he's able to walk in the sun unharmed but it weakened him or without resorting to fortitude and pretty much has Methuselah/Antediluvian/Caine like levels of raw power (probably not disciplines but rather closer to True Magic from Mage especially from Arcane Knowledge) but greatly vulnerable like catholic imagery immediately repels or harms him regardless the faith of the wielder, can't enter a home without invitation, can only sleep in native soil, has no shadow, no refection on any reflective surfaces, can't show up in cameras and even portraits of him crumble over time, can't cross running water, and his eyes glow inferno red when gets pissed off or engaging in Vampiric things, etc.
Especially Carmilla herself though that she's also able to walk in the daylight but of course she has to sleep in a coffin or confined space of her victims blood, she's also repelled by Catholic Imagery regardless of the wielder especially Hymns harm her as well, Of course she change into a giant black cat, walk through solid matter like noclip mode and can open locked doors and such and how she became a vampire is that she actually died after being drained by a Vampire in the chest after her birthday ball whose related to Karnstein blood (like Count Karnstein) who committed suicide who was evil in life as so as they say.
Especially I don't think this scene is possible in VtM.....
Of course there's also 19th century literary vampires like Carmilla, Lord Ruthven, Clarimonde, Sir Francis Varney, etc since all of them walked in the sun with no problem either just like Dracula especially Ruthven and Varney can be killed via normal means but they can be brought back to life the rays of a Full Moon hence another reason I never liked how VtM handled both Dracula and Ruthven since they discarded their original source material and turned them into Kindred pretty much despite their differences. Hell there's even a obscure Vampire novel written in 1867 called "Vampire City" by Paul Feval which contains one of the most bizarre vampire incarnations to exist in literature which "Otto Goetzi" belongs to this strange breed which they basically glow green, they drink blood through their tongues, they make duplicates and "sub vampires" or "vampirculs" when they kill a mortal which they all merge together and they also function like biological clockwork which they have a hole in their chests which needles are used to "twink" them back into action if they get harmed that is not to mention there's a entire Vampire City in Yugoslavia called "Selene" which is shrouded in eternal night with a Full Moon always overhead as well.
Basically in a world where different variations of Vampirism exists, I guess Kindred make up the majority but I guess they also persecute other Vampires from other variations as well?
Especially it would make sense that VtM Kindred burn in sunlight, have a beast that they all must adhere rigid moral guidelines like Humanity, Paths, Roads, etc, They're all descended from Caine hence "Cainites" that get weaker with each generation, they can blood bond and create ghouls (while other variations of vampires can't) since Kindred/Cainites have a beast they all frenzy as well while other Vampires like Dracula, Carmilla, Ruthven, etc don't. Now imagine Dracula grabbing a rampaging Kindred in Frenzy by the neck and saying "So the beast, that's your bane not mine..."
Now imagine that as a possibility....
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