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  • #16
    Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post
    As for the subject of using disguises to look human, I'm given to understand that 5th edition of the Nosferatu Bane also imposes a penalty to attempts at doing exactly that. But I'm not entirely sure about the specifics on that.
    Most player characters will lose a die or, if they're pretty powerful, two. Methusalehs lose five (and gain four or five if they're using disciplines to do the disguising, plus another five for a Blood Surge if it's important enough to them).

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post
      As for the subject of using disguises to look human, I'm given to understand that 5th edition of the Nosferatu Bane also imposes a penalty to attempts at doing exactly that. But I'm not entirely sure about the specifics on that.
      They do, but the severity of it is based on your Blood Purity which goes up the older you are. So a young Nosferatu isn't really going to have as much of a problem with it as an Elder will. This seems perfectly reasonable to me and I hope they do something similar with the Hecata


      "The only consistent wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" ~ Socrates

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      • #18
        Originally posted by No One of Consequence View Post
        That is so brilliant that I wish I had thought it first. I'm also now disappointed that the revised clanbook didn't include The Gimp as a character template.
        That was a VtM: Bloodlines reference

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        • #19
          First, though we've had ubiquitous security cameras for a while now, the quality of the footage left something to be desired for most of that history. Your average gas station would record footage as grainy and low resolution during the 90s, because high def cameras were expensive during those days. Even in modern times - especially in the World of Darkness, where things are meant to be crummier than our world - there will be parts of the urban landscape where security cameras aren't as good as they could be, simply because of tech adoption lag. Not everyone springs for the best equipment or gadgets the second they go on sale. As such, a Nosferatu getting caught on a security camera won't necessarily reveal as much as you'd imagine. Less so, if they do even basic work to obscure their appearance using hats or hoodies.


          Second, just because a Nosferatu gets caught on camera doesn't mean people will notice. Cameras, under this thread's assumption, are "everywhere", meaning there's a Brobdingnagian quantity of footage being recorded every second of every day. Finding a single Nosferatu in all those terabytes of data is akin to finding a needle in a haystack, if we're relying only on humans to find it, when they think to look. As the saying goes, ain't nobody got time for that. For decades, a Nosferatu would only have a problem if something happened that prompted people to look at the specific footage they appeared in. Such Nosferatu, of course, tend to not only take steps to counteract being picked up (disguises, avoiding camera line of sight, etc) when they know they'll be doing something to give mortals such cause.

          Indeed, what makes Facial Recognition Software such a threat to the Masquerade is that it lets machines do the work of trawling through data. Certainly, that makes it a problem NOW, but not necessarily back in the 90s and even 00s.

          Even cell phone cameras are only usually a problem if people are actively recording with them. People who use their phones have many tasks they might be doing, not necessarily having those cameras record. A person hunched over their phone sending messages can be safely ignored. In other cases, Nosferatu in the modern age know to avert their faces or pull their hoods close around them when folks are snapping selfies or recording video, tasks which tend to be fairly obvious to passers-by.


          Third, Appearance 0 only matters when someone can get a look at the Nos. As stated above, Sewer Rats benefit from wearing clothes and accessories to hide their horrid visages. It's not a matter of Appearance when that Appearance is kept hidden.


          Fourth, Animalism can work wonders. Not just for circumventing cameras entirely - no one will see the rat spy crossing a security camera's field of view, let alone make note of it - but in attacking those cameras. Rats can chew through wires or, if pressed, park their butts in front of the lens, if the Nosferatu REALLY needs to cross the observed space. Birds can be made to defecate on cameras as well. Any number of animals can be sent to distract nosy humans and their bothersome phone cameras. Who can resist taking pictures of cats if they come around looking cute? No one, that's who. I can imagine some Nosferatu keeping ghouled cats on hand at all times, just to run this kind of interference.


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          • #20
            Funnily enough, as long as no SI operatives show up, illegal activities may even protect the Masquerade when getting filmed: "We've got the suspect on camera, but the footage is useless because they obviously wore some kind of ugly mask."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cifer View Post
              Funnily enough, as long as no SI operatives show up, illegal activities may even protect the Masquerade when getting filmed: "We've got the suspect on camera, but the footage is useless because they obviously wore some kind of ugly mask."
              Indeed, I can imagine Clan Nosferatu doing the best to promote Ugly Masks as a meme or artificial Stand Alone Complex. Just as groups like the Giovanni and Samedi benefit from the prevalence of "zombie walks" and other cosplay.

              Heck, it's not like the criminal elements of society are unfamiliar with wearing Halloween masks when they do crimes.


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              • #22
                You know, I never thought about it, but it feels like the Camarilla should be interested in supporting and animating nerd culture in their cities - the more people are accustomed to seeing cosplayers and larpers and such, the less they are likely to notice small slip ups of the Masquerade.

                So... watch out, your FLGS may actually be sponsored by ancient bloodsuckers - and I don't mean Games Workshop.

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                • #23
                  Oh, absolutely - that and "vampire culture" in general. Twilight may have irked some stuck-up Ventrue and curmudgeon Toreador, but it was a godsend for any vampire looking to create herds of young people who were perfectly fine with deeply unhealthy relationships.

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