The greatest vampire in WOD

[blackshade]

Who is in your opinion the greatest vampire of all time in the world of darkness and why? To define greatness we need to ask ''greatest in what aspect?" I would imagine everybody looks at greatness in a different way. Is greatness measured by achievements, knowledge, influence, personal power or something else? it's probably a combination of many aspects. So you can decide what criteria's matter to you.

[CTPhipps]

Lucita for my all time FAVORITE Vampire in Vampire: The Masquerade.

Lucita again for BEST SIGNATURE CHARACTER

Lodin for BEST PRINCE (Sebastian La Croix was my runner up)

Ayisha Jocastian for BEST REDLISTER

Modius for BEST CAMARILLA (Sebastian La Croix was an almost there)

Anita Wainwright for BEST ANARCH (Maldavis came close)

Dracula for BEST INCONNU

Carolina Valez for BEST SABBAT (Harold Zettler was next)

Malkavians for BEST CLAN

The Sacrifice for BEST CHRONICLE (followed by Baptism by Fire)

[SuperSabbatST]

Izhim-Ur Baal. Dude is Vampire the Masquerade Thanos lol

[valismedsen]

I liked the way CTPhipps did it:

Mithras for my all time FAVORITE Vampire in Vampire: The Masquerade.

Anatole for BEST SIGNATURE CHARACTER

François Villon for BEST PRINCE

Dylan Bruce for BEST REDLISTER

Madame Guil for BEST CAMARILLA

Tyler for BEST ANARCH

Mahatma/Byzar for BEST INCONNU

Polonia for BEST SABBAT

Malkavians for BEST CLAN

Also, Bitter Crusade for BEST CHRONICLE

[Reasor]

There are two possible answers.

El Diablo Verde, and WRONG.

[Grumpy RPG Reviews]

Lucita, one of the few characters in the setting to really interest me.

[Saga]

Lucita for my all time FAVORITE Vampire in Vampire: The Masquerade.

Lucita again for BEST SIGNATURE CHARACTER

Lodin for BEST PRINCE (Sebastian La Croix was my runner up)

Ayisha Jocastian for BEST REDLISTER

Modius for BEST CAMARILLA (Sebastian La Croix was an almost there)

Anita Wainwright for BEST ANARCH (Maldavis came close)

Dracula for BEST INCONNU

Carolina Valez for BEST SABBAT (Harold Zettler was next)

Malkavians for BEST CLAN

I like the arrangement of that list!

BEST SIGNATURE CHARACTER: Lucita d'Aragon

BEST PRINCE: Mithras

BEST CAMARILLA: Theo Bell (with Victoria Ash being really close)

BEST REDLISTER: Valerius Maior (2nd ed and Chaining the Beast)

BEST ARCHBISHOP: Ambrosio Luis Monçada

BEST SABBAT: The Widows pack (The Rose, Creamy Jade, Black Lotus, Justine Chen)

BEST ANARCH: Louis Fortier

BEST INDEPENDENT: Diego Giovanni

BEST ASHIRRA: Darshuf

BEST KUEI-JIN: Liu Shao

BEST INCONNU: Callisti & Callisto

BEST DARK AGES: Alexander

BEST VICTORIAN AGE: Regina Blake

BEST CLAN: Lasombra

WORTHY MENTION: Sebastian LaCroix

- Saga

[Legendre]

It's a three-way tie between Vitel, Madame Guil, and Montano.

[Thoth]

The cab driver from VtM: Bloodlines

[Eldagusto]

Baba Yaga is so damn classy and adds a sense of romanticism and myth I can't help but love her!

Shoot me but I also love El Diablo Verde, I have a place for him even if some don't.

And Al-Ashrad is so damn sensible and competent, he was destined for great things and making him the childe of Ur-Shulgi chained him, he may have overshadowed him if he was a direct childe of Haquim.

[Eldagusto]

It's a three-way tie between Vitel, Madame Guil, and Montano.

Oh damn I forgot about Montano!

[Eldagusto]

And if Antediluvians are an option... Sutekh!

[Rock113]

And Al-Ashrad is so damn sensible and competent, he was destined for great things and making him the childe of Ur-Shulgi chained him, he may have overshadowed him if he was a direct childe of Haquim.

I always think that one reason why Haqim let U-S not himself to embrace A-A is that he fears Ashrad will overshadow or even kill him...

His stats is overpowerful for a 3000+ year-old 5th gens.

[Eldagusto]

I always think that one reason why Haqim let U-S not himself to embrace A-A is that he fears Ashrad will overshadow or even kill him...

His stats is overpowerful for a 3000+ year-old 5th gens.

Yeah honestly I think he was depressed at becoming a Vampire. Before that he was a Mage with a limitless future, he even whooped Haquims favored childer who was an elder of Ur-Shulgi and a few others, because they thought it was a good idea to jump an archmagus who wielded a bow that shot sunlight... It was definitely an attempt to muzzle him.

[Rock113]

because they thought it was a good idea to jump an archmagus who wielded a bow that shot sunlight...

Well, Clayton A. Oliver used to answer similiar question.

http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...-ur-baal/page3

I can't speak for subsequent expansion or retcon, but as intended when written for CotN, al-Ashrad was never an archmage. Do note that the character's background section is written very much in-character, and any use of "mage" in that context is by Children of Haqim who don't enjoy our multi-book perspective.

- C.

So at least in the CoN he may not be an archmage, not even an aweakened.
But in the latter Assamite CB Revised his saying is quoted when talking about the magus, see page 63. Maybe authorities have different opinions.