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    I'm trying to write some rules for bounty hunters of the Second Inquisition being given a set amount of money to hunt vampires.

    I know money is relative to everyone. One player recommended USD$100 per vampire, which is pitifully low. I searched for a modern day equivalent of a bounty hunter who earns about USD80k for 150 cases. That's around USD$500 per case. Even doubling that to USD$1000 would still be low in my estimation. I personally wouldn't even hunt a vampire if it was USD$10,000 a head. It seems like a lot of work and time to track, hunt and go through all their minions just for USD$10,000. Not to mention the fact that I could die at any moment. And all the specialised gear and contacts I would need.

    What is a reasonable amount you would expect to be paid for a neonate, elder or methuselah (assuming you were the average vampire hunter)?
    Last edited by lucasstriker; 09-24-2019, 03:45 AM.

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    Assamites ask +250k for human targets



    The Contract

    Anyone who wishes to contract with the Assamites
    for assassinations must usually do so through the Silsila,
    though in cities where an Assamite openly resides, she
    will usually be willing to facilitate introductions for a fee.
    No Assamite loyal to the Clan will accept a contract that
    has not gone through the Silsila. Assassinations of mortal
    targets are usually paid in cash, although at exorbitant
    rates: a quarter million U.S. dollars per hit is cheap for
    an Assamite killer.
    If the target is supernatural or is under
    the protection of supernatural beings, the price goes up
    accordingly.


    So hundreds of thousands for a neonate. Millions for ancilla and Elders.

    And whatever you ask for a Methuselah. It's something almost impossible, so you ask the price.



    Just to put things in perspective: Murder Inc's hitmans were paid that went from 1000 to 5000 dollars. Taking in account purchasing power of the dollar in 1940 that means somewhere between 18.000 and 90.000 dollars.
    Last edited by Undead rabbit; 09-24-2019, 05:38 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Undead rabbit View Post
      And whatever you ask for a Methuselah. It's something almost impossible, so you ask the price.
      It would probably be far cheaper, less-risky and easier to cover up if you just drop a drone strike on that Methuselah's Haven at high noon than to pay someone to go after the Methuselah. Seemed to work for the Vienna operation.

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      • #4
        Undead rabbit
        The thread is about mortal vampire hunters. Banu Haqim bring a wholly different skill set to the table.

        @Topic
        There are several factors at play here. First, how do you post the bounty? Is it just "Bring proof of any vampire's destruction and we'll pay X Money"? Is there a hidden bulletin board that anyone in the know could theoretically access? Or do you specifically turn to someone and ask them to remove a specific vampire, turning the whole thing into contract assassination? The latter would drive up the price, the former would lower it. Though of course, the sheer number of vampire hunters remains low because the SI doesn't want the Masquerade broken, so their prices may remain high - the SI likely doesn't want to cooperate with amateurs, leaving professionals who know what they're worth.

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        • #5
          While I don't know exactly what a bounty would be, I like what kinds of implications this makes for your game world.

          A bounty of 2,000$ per head would imply people can have as their day job killing vampires. It happens commonly and isn't all that hard. For the vampire community, vamps are dying like flies. You're never sure your friends will show up, and a vamp death a week isn't all that uncommon. The second inquisition is roflstomping the vampires. Expect a gang of hunters slitting your throat as you're feeding, or torn down blackout curtains in your haven.

          A bounty of 200,000$ would imply the SI is hiring professional, highly skilled hitmen to spank vampire asses. Deaths are less common, but nobody is safe. Build your secret havens, go off the grid, hide your feeding behind walls of Dominate and drugs... it won't matter. Once you've been targeted, you're going down. Expect electrical fires in buildings and sniper rifles.

          Basically, whatever you set your bounties as, it will imply just how hard the SI thinks killing vampires is. The higher the bounty, the higher the difficulty.


          Furthermore, I believe Carthage should be destroyed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Undead rabbit View Post
            And whatever you ask for a Methuselah. It's something almost impossible, so you ask the price.
            Well, is it really difficult to kill a Methuselah? Many canon NPCs do have beautiful stats but I think it’s not that hard...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pang4 View Post
              Basically, whatever you set your bounties as, it will imply just how hard the SI thinks killing vampires is. The higher the bounty, the higher the difficulty.
              It's been implied that the SI mostly targets the younger and stupider neonates that the Camarilla, Anarchs or even Sabbat doesn't care enough about to protect or avenge. The older and more powerful vampires have their herds and likely multiple layers of security to obscure their presence.

              So it stands to reason that the SI mainly has contact with the weaker vampires, who die relatively easily. So they likely don't pay absurd sums. And if one of those hunters runs into an actual strong vampire? Well he won't live to tell the tale, so the SI still has no real clue about the strengths of vampires.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rock113 View Post
                Well, is it really difficult to kill a Methuselah? Many canon NPCs do have beautiful stats but I think it’s not that hard...
                They did spend at least a millenium not getting killed, so...

                Originally posted by Quatar View Post
                It's been implied that the SI mostly targets the younger and stupider neonates that the Camarilla, Anarchs or even Sabbat doesn't care enough about to protect or avenge. The older and more powerful vampires have their herds and likely multiple layers of security to obscure their presence.

                So it stands to reason that the SI mainly has contact with the weaker vampires, who die relatively easily. So they likely don't pay absurd sums. And if one of those hunters runs into an actual strong vampire? Well he won't live to tell the tale, so the SI still has no real clue about the strengths of vampires.
                Everyone has mainly contact with the weaker vampires, simply because they're the most numerous. However, the SI did manage to burn out London from the lowest childe up to Mithras and Queen Anne. And then there were Vienna and Venice...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cifer View Post
                  Everyone has mainly contact with the weaker vampires, simply because they're the most numerous. However, the SI did manage to burn out London from the lowest childe up to Mithras and Queen Anne. And then there were Vienna and Venice...
                  True enough. But I ask you this: If they offer a bounty, 95 percent or more of vampires that get killed will be weak neonates, would we agree on that? So offering Methusalah rates for "any vampire killed" would be insane even if they know.
                  It's much more efficient for them, to offer a low bounty like say 500-2000 on "any vampire" and then if someone runs into one of the stronger ones, send in the specialists who don't get out of bed for less than 50k, to take care of that specific threat.

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                  • #10
                    How long until a vampire starts embracing random people just to sell them to the SI for a quick buck?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GilbyTheFat View Post
                      It would probably be far cheaper, less-risky and easier to cover up if you just drop a drone strike on that Methuselah's Haven at high noon than to pay someone to go after the Methuselah. Seemed to work for the Vienna operation.

                      But that's not a 100% guaranteed strategy, since Tremere simply jumped ship into the body of another Methuselah.

                      We're talking about vampires who have managed to survive the world of Kindred for over 1,000 years. If brute force and surprise attacks were the only thing you needed to take them down, it would have been done already. Even the ones who were attacked outright needed a small army of supernaturally empowered fighters in order to successfully defeat them.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nyrufa View Post
                        But that's not a 100% guaranteed strategy, since Tremere simply jumped ship into the body of another Methuselah.
                        Alright, I seriously missed something if I didn't see that. Could you provide me a page and book reference, please?

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                        • #13
                          Pretty sure that Tremere has been in Goratrix body for a few decades already at this point. The Saulot-worm thing under the chantry, well we don't know if it survived. But even if, the SI has no way of knowing any of that, now do they? And for this discussion what they know, or believe to know is the important thing, since it's about how they're acting.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Quatar View Post
                            True enough. But I ask you this: If they offer a bounty, 95 percent or more of vampires that get killed will be weak neonates, would we agree on that? So offering Methusalah rates for "any vampire killed" would be insane even if they know.
                            It's much more efficient for them, to offer a low bounty like say 500-2000 on "any vampire" and then if someone runs into one of the stronger ones, send in the specialists who don't get out of bed for less than 50k, to take care of that specific threat.
                            I would consider 50k to be a low bounty, considering this is about taking down a supernatural predator, ideally without triggering an investigation that is a danger to the Masquerade. Anyone who could be motivated for 2000 dollars/euros/whatever to kill a vampire is so seriously underpaid that they really can't be trusted with the knowledge that vampires even exist.

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                            • #15
                              GilbyTheFat


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                              Oh, the destruction happened afterward? If that's the case, then I might be mistaken!
                              Last edited by Nyrufa; 09-24-2019, 05:08 PM.

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