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  • The Chicago Folio - I have my backer copy

    I'm digging into it savagely.

    Loving it so far.

    Initial thoughts

    * The art is phenomenal. Seriously, this is even better than the Chicago by Night art and that stuff is my 2nd favorite after Tim Bradstreet's iconic stuff. So dynamic, full of visual storytelling, and beautiful.

    * I liked we got updates to some of the left behind characters of Chicago like the Wolf Pack.

    * The adventure hooks were some of my favorite parts in CBN5E so this is more of this.

    * Love the return of a favorite NPC. We all know the one even if some people have always found him...silly.

    * Ventrue Plumber! I hope she has ghouls named Mario and Luigi.

    * Joseph Peterson has a really cool childe.

    * Wonderful tie-ins to the Blood Gods supplement.

    * A meaty 170+ pages.

    More thoughts in the future I'm sure.


    Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

  • #2
    Art was cool and had some interesting hooks, but I was hoping for fewer scenarios with Beckett's Jyhad Diary level of detail and hooks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Vendrin View Post
      Art was cool and had some interesting hooks, but I was hoping for fewer scenarios with Beckett's Jyhad Diary level of detail and hooks.
      It seems to be a scenario book.

      Also, we have our first treatment of the Ravnos in 5E.

      They're now considered Caitiff and seem to have Obfuscate, Dominate, and Fortitude as possible Discipline spreads. Chimestry might be an Amalgam Discipline.

      Edit:

      AND THE SABBAT!
      Last edited by CTPhipps; 02-14-2020, 08:16 PM.


      Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post

        It seems to be a scenario book.

        Also, we have our first treatment of the Ravnos in 5E.

        They're now considered Caitiff and seem to have Obfuscate, Dominate, and Fortitude as possible Discipline spreads. Chimestry might be an Amalgam Discipline.

        Edit:

        AND THE SABBAT!
        While you probably are right,we won't have solid infi on Ravnos until the PG

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nicolas Milioni View Post
          While you probably are right,we won't have solid infi on Ravnos until the PG
          I honestly suspect we won't get any info whatsoever. The Ravnos being referred to in this book as a memory.


          Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post

            I honestly suspect we won't get any info whatsoever. The Ravnos being referred to in this book as a memory.
            That might happen too.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post

              It seems to be a scenario book.

              Also, we have our first treatment of the Ravnos in 5E.

              They're now considered Caitiff and seem to have Obfuscate, Dominate, and Fortitude as possible Discipline spreads. Chimestry might be an Amalgam Discipline.

              Edit:

              AND THE SABBAT!
              How are they handling Sabbat?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post

                I honestly suspect we won't get any info whatsoever. The Ravnos being referred to in this book as a memory.
                Which is a pity, as BJD made them pretty interesting.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Grumpy RPG Reviews View Post

                  Which is a pity, as BJD made them pretty interesting.
                  It's interesting because they're not wiped out by the Week of Nightmares. Sejana was just passed out on drugs one night and woke to find out every Ravnos in Chicago was gone.

                  It's possible that was meant to be the Week of Nightmares but it seems like it could be a sign of a second tragedy.

                  Originally posted by Taggie View Post

                  How are they handling Sabbat?
                  The Chicago Sabbat are known as the Seven Fires and they are a cell-based terrorist organization that are operating autonamously. They murder, pillage, and terrorize the Cainites of Chicago with no orders as well as to retaliate against the city that accepted the Lasombra. They are determined to break the spirit of Kindred who serve the Camarilla and Anarchs. They often use Peter Pan slang saying they've "lost their shadow."

                  As for the Sabbat as a whole, no one knows what happened to the Sabbat in the United States except for the fact Packs disappeared, the hierarchy dissolved, and the Cainites left behind have often suffered madness without the system to keep the Beast in check (loose as it may be).

                  The Sabbat as a whole is said to have "relinquished control of its holdings" and thrown itself into the "Gehenna War" (with the latter in-quotes as if Chicagoans have only barely heard of it).
                  Last edited by CTPhipps; 02-15-2020, 10:38 AM.


                  Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post




                    The Chicago Sabbat are known as the Seven Fires and they are a cell-based terrorist organization that are operating autonamously. They murder, pillage, and terrorize the Cainites of Chicago with no orders as well as to retaliate against the city that accepted the Lasombra. They are determined to break the spirit of Kindred who serve the Camarilla and Anarchs. They often use Peter Pan slang saying they've "lost their shadow."

                    As for the Sabbat as a whole, no one knows what happened to the Sabbat in the United States except for the fact Packs disappeared, the hierarchy dissolved, and the Cainites left behind have often suffered madness without the system to keep the Beast in check (loose as it may be).

                    The Sabbat as a whole is said to have "relinquished control of its holdings" and thrown itself into the "Gehenna War" (with the latter in-quotes as if Chicagoans have only barely heard of it).
                    Thank you.

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                    • #11
                      There's a distinctly Malkavian feel to the Sabbat tease in Chicago, which suits my personal needs nicely. The folio is 177 pages, That's a hell of a lot of content for splat off the densely packed Chicago By Night.
                      Last edited by Ruthven; 02-15-2020, 09:32 PM. Reason: Addendum.

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                      • #12
                        I wanted to add, "the letter" gives a look at what might be something Tzimisce too. I think my "Sabbat Loyalists" might have gone the way of the anarchs, if this what the modern Sabbat look like. Or maybe the cell structure of the sect, means no two cells will look alike, nor will they necessarily get along.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ruthven View Post
                          I wanted to add, "the letter" gives a look at what might be something Tzimisce too. I think my "Sabbat Loyalists" might have gone the way of the anarchs, if this what the modern Sabbat look like. Or maybe the cell structure of the sect, means no two cells will look alike, nor will they necessarily get along.
                          I think that may be the real answer to the "Problem of the Sabbat." The V5 take on the Sabbat is to take the idea of a bunch of monstrous chainsaw-wielding serial killers and cultists and treat their actions SERIOUSLY results in a very different critter than the somewhat cartoonishly fun ones of before.

                          We're going from Joker and harley quinn to Ed Gein and John Wayne Gacy.


                          Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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                          • #14
                            I strongly dislike the picture on the Lucinde loresheet, from the Revised book we got a picture of a young beautiful woman, this picture makes the samedi and osfeartu look like marilyn monroe in comparison and lucinde is now hideous to a degree that not even a mother would love.

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                            • #15
                              The Chicago Folios Review

                              4/5

                              THE CHICAGO FOLIOS is one of two supplements successfully added as Kickstarter stretch goals for the wildly successful CHICAGO BY NIGHT 5E for VAMPIRE: THE MASQUERADE. Chicago by Night 5th Edition updated the famous city supplement to the year 2018 and brought substantial changes to the Windy City. Furthermore, it had a wonderful effect on games as a whole as like the web series LA BY NIGHT by Jason Carl, it illustrated to many fans how the new setting was supposed to work on practice. We understood how the Camarilla, Anarchs, Elders, and Neonates were meant to interact in a post-Gehenna War world.

                              The Chicago Folios is best described as a book of adventure hooks. It also has a number of NPC write-ups and Loresheets but is primarily a book designed to give you a bunch of ready-to-run short stories if you don't have any ideas for the evening. These aren't full Chronicles like "The Sacrifice" in or even "Baptism by Fire" but a rough outline of a story as well as three or four ideas on how it could end. There were dozens of these in the back of Chicago by Night 5E and I very much enjoyed them all.

                              The adventure hooks are, for the most part, fairly low stakes. These are not adventures about admitting the Lasombra in the Camarilla but more like settling the individual fates of one vampire or another. Sometimes, they're not even that like a hook based around helping an Ancilla turn an empty building into a new Elysium. But if house flipping isn't your idea of what a dark creature of the night should be up to, there's still plenty of solid hooks like resolving the issue of Gengis' "Anarch List" and dealing with a group of Thin Blooded murderers who are engaged in Blood Bank robberies that threaten the Masquerade.

                              Indeed, I think the best adventures of this are the ones that designed to be run in a single night with a beginning, middle, and end. Some of the adventures benefit from being more a premise than anything else. "The Black Rose Society" is a group of Toreador who are engaged in cannibalism of Thin Bloods among other horrific Ashwood Abbey (see Hunter: The Vigil) Sabbat-esque decadence. The only solution for humane Kindred is to burn the place down but this is going to make them a huge number of enemies. The Second Inquisition stories show horrifying Nazi-like experiments taking place alongside them trying to stop genuinely monstrous Kindred.

                              I think it's very possible to also combine a lot of these adventure hooks into a Chronicle that is quite exciting if you work at it. Multiple vampire plots occurring simultaneously can substitute for a larger storyline in the background or add to one as we see in Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines. You can also combine all of the tiny little plots into one big one.

                              In addition to the adventure hooks, there's a good number of awesome NPCs spread throughout the book. These include some old favorites like the Wolf Pack, Al Capone, and Shejana as well as a totally new cast of characters. I especially liked Arden Canty, the Priest of Caine who has recently moved to Chicago after defecting from the Sabbat and losing faith in its due to its atrocities. I do have a minor complaint that Joshua Tarponski (a.k.a Blackjack) receives a stat write-up but not a full character write-up with his history, plans, and associations. I feel like he's character who deserved a full write-up.

                              Much to my surprise, this book ties into CULTS OF THE BLOOD GODS and includes the addition of The Church of Caine, Church of Set, Cult of Mithras, Ashfinders, the Bahari, and a new weird cult devoted to a severed tongue among its adventure hooks. I felt a scene where a Bahari member compares Caine to Ted Bundy was a bit ridiculous since they worship a goddess who kills pregnant women but that's on me. There's a few characters who didn't quite land with me, including one who attempts to interpret the Camarilla through a patriarchy lens that I feel undermines characters like Helena and the Sybil. Really, the world of V:TM should be a bit of a refuge from real life struggles as we're all united in our disdain for the real inferiors of our society: humans.

                              The big benefit of this book is that it actually gives some solid answers on things that have been asked by players since the new line started: including the state of the Sabbat and the status of the Ravnos. According to this book, the Sabbat in North America have collapsed and no longer are holding territory. They have since been reduced to terrorist cell-based groups engaged in campaigns of sick mind games. One of the best bits of in-game fiction is a suicide note from a man completely broken by exposure to the "new" Sabbat. The new Sabbat are pretty much the old Sabbat but their horrifying treatment of mortals is now being treated seriously. No longer are they the Leatherface, Hydra, and Joker sect so much as the Ed Gein, ISIS, and John Wayne Gacy sect. As for the Ravnos, character Shejana is now treated as Caitiff with saying her clan is now gone in what is either the Week of Nightmares or a second traumatic event. Chimestry is also replaced with either Dominate, Obfuscate, or both.

                              There's a selection of new Loresheets in the book including Descendant of Menele, the Convention of Chicago [for Camarilla characters], and a few others. I feel like there's a missed opportunity here as there ren't many Anarch Loresheets and they had their own section. A Maldavis and Anita Wainwright Loresheet would have been appropriate here. I really loved the Goblin Roads Loresheet, though, as I did a short story about a Psychopomp in Darkened Streets. The book finally ends with a bunch of Tremere rituals adapted for 5th Edition and I feel these are desperately needed for anyone who wants to play a mage.

                              The art in this book is incredible. I loved the art in Chicago by Night 5E and felt it was a great improvement over the edgy photo-quality images of the main book. The Chicago Folios steps it up a notch, though, and many of the pictures tell actual stories. Really, I think this book is great and a solid 4 star entry into the World of Darkness' libaries.
                              Last edited by CTPhipps; 02-15-2020, 11:52 PM.


                              Author of Cthulhu Armageddon, I was a Teenage Weredeer, Straight Outta Fangton, Lucifer's Star, and the Supervillainy Saga.

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