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  • What would Chivalric Romance tenants be?

    Never break a sacred oath

    Never deny true love

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  • #2
    http://www.medieval-life-and-times.i...f-chivalry.htm this link should explain it.

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    • #3
      Don’t go further than oral if the person you love is married to someone else.

      Not even kidding. This is in the Rules of Courtly Love in the Pendragon RPG (although they use very flowery language to say it).

      For Kindred in particular, I would think that you’re not supposed to Embrace a childe without talking it over with your True Love and getting their consent first. I’m not sure what else. Let me think about it.


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      • #4
        Also, don’t do anything sexual with anyone except the person you love and don’t enter into a Blood Bond with anyone else.


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        • #5
          Fight for the sake of one weaker than yourself.

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          • #6
            I will plug the Vampire the Dark Ages sourcebook The Ashen Knight, which covers all things knights and chivalry, including how it applies to vampires. It really is one of my favorite DA sourcebooks, and available on drivethrurpg.


            What is tolerance? It is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly. That is the first law of nature.
            Voltaire, "Tolerance" (1764)

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            • #7
              If you find a lady traveling by herself, you're obligated to accompany and protect her. If you find a lady under the protection of another knight, however, if you beat that knight you can do whatever you want with her. This is absolutely horrible, but it was in fact considered perfectly chivalric behavior.

              Buying your way out of military service is acceptable and was called scutage (shield money). It eventually would take over in the later middle ages and it became preferable for kings to just collect scutage and hire professional soldiers rather than having nobles that had been slacking in their training. Obviously it didn't completely supplant knights in the late middle ages, just became more popular.

              Honoring your oaths and giving military service to your lord is obviously a requirement (except with scutage). Technically you're obligated to care and protect those under you as well. Clearly a lot of nobility didn't do as much as they could for their peasants.

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              • #8
                ....yeah, I'm just looking for a Chronicle tenant that would be interesting to play.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CajunKhan View Post
                  ....yeah, I'm just looking for a Chronicle tenant that would be interesting to play.
                  Well forms of scutage could be an interesting thing to utilize. Like clearly the Cappadocian's not going to fight for the local Baron/Prince, but they could provide intel or harass their enemies. Obligations to protect and aid your lessers would make for a lot of good plot-hooks. Or you could just go the whole courtly love route and elevate a woman to an unreachable pedastle, especially if she was say, the Prince's Lady.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Penelope View Post
                    Don’t go further than oral if the person you love is married to someone else.
                    This made me LOL!

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                    • #11
                      @GilbyTheFat

                      A knight asks Queen Guinevere a question about his married paramour (girlfriend):

                      “I have smelled her flower and tasted her petals and found her jewel. Can we now engage in the act of sex?”

                      Guinevere’s answer:

                      “No. The act of sex is a false love which will tire you out and keep you from striving toward a true and perfect love for each other.”

                      (but apparently tasting her petals and doing stuff with her jewel is okay...)


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                      • #12
                        IllithidActivity I like yours. For real.

                        DrHappyAngry true, but you’re still not supposed to rape her...

                        CajunKhan I don’t mean to be mean, but it’s “tenets.” “Tenant” is someone who lives in an apartment.


                        Rain On Me... Lady Gaga (I went to the same academic summer camp she did) and Ariana Grande. This song actually works really well with the World of Darkness.

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                        • #13
                          GilbyTheFat


                          Rain On Me... Lady Gaga (I went to the same academic summer camp she did) and Ariana Grande. This song actually works really well with the World of Darkness.

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                          • #14
                            A more accurate Chivalric Romance means you offer the girls father a couple of farm animals or a new house in exchange for the arranged marriage. Also don't forget during that period in history it was not unheard of for the familys to expect the bride and groom to consummate the marriage in front of the congregation before leaving the church.

                            Funny how details like that don't get brought up in the romance discussions. Perhaps that is the origin of the mid coitus "oh god" comes from.

                            So tenants would be something like:
                            1. Always offer fair value to the family of your love.
                            2. Always introduce yourself to your love after you have finished the deal with the family, that way she can put a face to the name.
                            3. Try to figure out ahead of time what your love is into so you don't make her act too wantonly on the altar.
                            4. Get a new wife no sooner than 30 years after the marriage, to preserve the sanctity of the tradition and institution.

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                            • #15
                              Thoth no it didn’t!!! That did NOT happen. That thing about having sex on the altar sounds like it came from a porn video. And not a very good one.

                              Read Spenser’s Epithalamion. For real. It’s about a guy in the Middle Ages who gets married on the longest day of the year and he’s literally pacing with anticipation because he can’t wait till nightfall when he and his bride can be alone together in private.

                              And “Oh God” is just something people say by instinct. It’s not religious. I’m Wiccan and I still say it.


                              Rain On Me... Lady Gaga (I went to the same academic summer camp she did) and Ariana Grande. This song actually works really well with the World of Darkness.

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