Originally posted by MyWifeIsScary
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It's funny how every other post in the thread reminds us how Sabbat is divorced from humanity and mortals, yet the list of these powers covers primarily Camarilla-like chronicle interactions. I see no Sabbat utilizing these except the extremely moderate and deviant neonates or the master inflitrators sent to some hardcore Camarilla citadel like western European capitals.
Guess what, I think you are both right. Vici does allow all these; it is an extremely flexible discipline; the only downside it has is that it requires preparation. Want combat uses?
- physical attributes readjustments
- enforced carapace, marrows turned into a complete shell and further enforced - goodbye stacking
- forearm blades
- spikes anywhere
- lard and muscle stuffing for the most vulnerable parts
- virtually no limit in turning one into either an impenetrable bone tank or extra flexible harley quinn/assassins creed rogue or anything in between
- skull modifications, horns, enforced bone (hello Harderstadt)
- veins turned into a barbed whip hidden up your sleeve
- addtional (hidden) hands or other extremities for 'last ditch' shot or stab
- maw instead of mouth and shark's teeth for fangs, hello aggravated dmg successes
- whatever else one can come up with to improve their survival chances.
All of that requires preparation though - but that's Tzimisce flavor for which they are loved and praised. 'Leave the flashy stuff to barbarians and watch the real Art'.
And of course the most important part why Vici will always be more powerful than Protean - it's social. You could and should improve not only yourself but your packmates as well, not to mention your combat ghouls, given violence in the Sabbat is a way of unlifestyle. Vampires, and Sabbat, are social creatures, after all. Vici emphasises this aspect of the sect like no other Sabbat disipline.
Besides all of that, I am sure the rules will cover both sides - they would have some amalgams which allow for immediate use, like in flesh shintai (Flesh of Wind and Water anyone?), as well as more orthodox fleshcrafting at the lab. Probably different schools, too. I'd love to see how Obertus fleshcrafting differs from Bratovitches, for example.
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