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  • #16
    Originally posted by ChristopherZacher View Post
    Can you make a methusalah who posts on facebook and uses presence so her masses can compliment her and mob attack people who give negative reviews?


    That would be sooooo gothic.
    Now, now -- leave Lady Gaga out of this. We're all just trying to have a nice conversation here...


    I have been around here for waaaayyyy too fucking long...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Just John, Forever... View Post
      Now, now -- leave Lady Gaga out of this. We're all just trying to have a nice conversation here...
      Lady Gaga the childe of Anne Rice....hmmmm


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      • #18
        Originally posted by ChristopherZacher View Post

        Lady Gaga the childe of Anne Rice....hmmmm
        Anne has birthed many creatures... Gaga could be yet another... (Gaga's pop-culture ascendency is reminiscent of Lestat's in many -- not all, but many -- ways, is it not...?)

        #AndThenSheRoseAndDevouredTheWorld


        I have been around here for waaaayyyy too fucking long...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Just John, Forever... View Post
          But again, that's just a blast-from-the-past from the old forum back in the 90's.
          An awesome set of advice there, friend.

          Anyone want to speculate on how to adapt generations and stats for famous vampires?

          It'd be fun I think.

          How powerful should Lestat and company be in your opinion?


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          • #20
            Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post

            An awesome set of advice there, friend.

            Anyone want to speculate on how to adapt generations and stats for famous vampires?

            It'd be fun I think.

            How powerful should Lestat and company be in your opinion?
            The trick with that, meta-contextually, is that Anne's vampires are operating under a very different system of power accumulation/distillation than occurs in either Masquerade or Requiem (though, ironically enough, the concepts of "generation" and "blood potency" were seeded from her metaphysics back-in-the-day when Vampire was first created... irony of ironies...). Their power is measured along multiple axes rather than along a single one, and said axes delineate "power" in very different ways. Initial strength of the creator plays a part, but so does how much power/blood they invest in their childe (which can reflect BPs/Vitae given, WP spent (possibly permanent dots, too), and other factors); initial, abstract aspects of the new childe can play a factor, though this is rarer by comparison (such as, for example, Lestat's greater-than-normal initial tolerance for sunlight, or his being able to stay awake right up until the sun clears the horizon and awaken as it just dips below it -- things reflected by initial dots spent on Fortitude and Early Riser, respectively); how often they feed on the blood of other vampires (even "weaker"/"younger" vampires can provide a certain strength than can restore "x"-factors in a stronger vampire, such as when Lestat knew that Gabrielle's blood would have been strong enough to facilitate his recovery save that he had no idea where she was in the world and no way to find her); how many centuries/millennia they have existed; and how often they've fallen into (T)orpor/the deep sleep (and if it was for "natural" reasons -- time awake, a sense of ongoing mental fatigue, "I have a bunch of XP I need to justify spending", etc...-- or "unnatural" ones -- dire wounds that could take many years to recover from, possibly centuries if severe enough, such as when the roughly 1,000-2,000 year old vampires (at the time) were burned horribly by Akasha being placed all day in the sun: they were reduced to looking like desiccated mummies and would have take many decades or centuries to have recovered on their own, assuming they could feed regularly). Their sense of "health levels", "recovery", and what types of damage they could heal readily from (simple bludgeoning or lacerations were healed readily enough; broken/shattered bones took a few hours to a few days, depending on age/power; missing limbs/organs were not readily regenerated easily, or at all, depending on the nature of the damage; fire/sunlight was dangerous, with a tolerance for the sun growing over the centuries/millennia, but fire being an issue and nuclear forces being just as deadly to them as to mortals (as alluded to in QotD, as nuclear weapons could destroy them just as easily as it does mortals/cities) was also different than from how it is normally handled in any of the Vampire games of any era save that in 1st Ed. aggravated wounds required 3BP and a Willpower to heal from, which reflected the metaphysical as well as physical drain on the vampire's essence to restore truly bad damage.

            Also, and perhaps just as importantly, how often and how much most of Anne's vampires feed is also important when meta-porting them over. Most of her vampires (using a pre-Akasha-kills-most-of-them era, for range of context) need to consume the equivalent of 5-10 vitae *every night* in order to feel sated (as reflected by their needing to usually drink-to-death a mortal every night, or drinking from 2-4 mortals, separately, to "spread it around", as it were), and the capacity/desire to drink more *increases* with age (though the night-to-night *need* to do so slowly diminishes proportionally as time goes by and their bodies become ever-greater preternatural transmitters/conveyors of the spirit-power than animates them). Marius could go days, or even a week or two, without feeding and show no diminishment in his relative power; however, his *desire* to drink more (and his increased capacity to transubstantiate mortal blood, as well as physically contain more of it in his gradually transformed body) was considerable, and his iron-will prevented him from killing more often than he needed to (or, as was often the case, depending on the ready-availability of victims). Very young, comparatively near-mortal vampires (like the further-up mentioned Baby Jenks) could literally starve to death if prevented from feeding (likely taking at least several days, perhaps longer; unlike with VtM/R, very weak vampires didn't just lapse into torpor without blood -- they could in fact die without it).

            Now, while all of the above may seem like something to be hand-waived via ST fiat, they are all important concepts to keep in mind *if* one is trying to "properly" 'port over Anne's vampires into a WoD setting. If done as closely-as-possible to the source material -- making only the barest allowances for shift-of-setting and over-arcing metaphysics -- then what you are really doing is making a new "species" of vampire that may, in fact, be as metaphysically distinct from Caine's brood/curse as Eastern Vampires are. A new set of rules/applied meta-mechanics would have to be made, as -- for just one example -- the generation/blood potency system, as-is, is *woefully* insufficient to gauge/measure the powersets involved in Anne's vampires: the Antediluvians, 2nd Generation, and Caine are all completely and utterly above anything Akasha was/Mekare is, metaphysically speaking; Akasha would be little more, along one axis of power, than an uppity Methuselah in their eyes... and one readily eliminated with little more than a few moves of a few pieces on the Jyhad chess board, and certainly no match at all, power-wise, for one of them, in any case. *However*... she (and her descendents) had/have metaphysical qualities that far outstip their "superiors" along a different axis: given sufficient centuries/millennia, a given vampire could hold more vitae/"blood points", as it were, than any Methuselah (and quite possibly even an Antediluvian), as Akasha's vampires, much like old-school 1st/2nd Ed. KotE, could effectively channel/transubstantiate *their own* vitae/BPs; that is, they didn't *need* to feed as often because they didn't use the power involved as readily as Kindred do. Further, they "created", at least partially, their own vitae preternaturally (again, much like how old-school KotE would regain points daily, and needed to feed only to supplement any excess expenditures or to bolster their power). For Akasha's line, both the blood volume (which literally increased with age, slowly, over time for them as unlike with Kindred the Akashics' bodies were in an ongoing state of transformation) as well as the inherent power of their bodies/souls (the ability to transmit/"charge" the blood with power, via the essence permeating them) increases over time -- they get to "double-dip the chip", as it were, and consequently have an axis of greater blood-power than *any* comparable Kindred.

            And that's just *one* example of how they're different. There's many more....

            *****

            It's easy enough, of course, to just rubber-stamp them as a Toreador bloodline-variant (give them, as suggested, Auspex, Potence and Presence, give them an altered weakness) and call it day. That includes, though, throwing the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to 'porting over the more salient aspects of Anne's vampires that most hardcore fans would recognize, as well as adding metaphysical qualities to them (access to a wider range of "disciplines" than they possess normally in Anne's world, as well as having them "start" with fewer dots in powers than most of Anne's vampires would -- her "average" vampire of expected beginning strength (again, dependent on factors) would start with Auspex:1, Potence:1, Presence:1 and 1-3 more points spread among those powers or in additional disciplines that more readily reflected the vampire's nature and/or beginning strengths, such as Celerity, Obfuscate or -- as with Lestat -- at least a couple dots in Fortitude, plus "x") *if* one were trying to "meet-in-the-middle" between Anne's VC and VtM/R's metaphysics.

            There isn't a simple solution to this if one is trying to stay as true as possible to the source material. Either the stuff that makes Anne's vampires... well, Anne's vampires, is mostly chucked out so as to service the WoD (which, for many people, kind of defeats the purpose of 'porting them in in the first place), or a secondary system/set of mechanics need to be made for them.

            It all depends on how much you *really* want them to be like they are in the books vs. compromising them relative to the WoD.

            >shrugs<


            I have been around here for waaaayyyy too fucking long...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post
              . Somehow, they have discovered or passed down the secret of the Laibon &quot;sharing&quot; generation Thaumaturgy ritual and most modern members of the bloodline have extremely low generation (5th to 8th) with Fortitude as an Additional Discipline.
              What the heck is this? I don't know much at all about the Liabon. Tried looking it up and couldn't find it.
              That sounds like a hell of an advantage.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Alucard View Post
                What the heck is this? I don't know much at all about the Liabon. Tried looking it up and couldn't find it.
                That sounds like a hell of an advantage.
                The idea of them possessing an Assamite like ability is in the Beckett Jyhad Diary.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post
                  Nicolas Milioni

                  Here ya go!

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                  V:TM version

                  Cullen

                  Nickname: Sparklers

                  Quote: "Everything about us lures you in."

                  The Cullen Bloodline is a small group of vegetarian vampires which were created by Carlisle Cullen in the 17th century when he developed abilities above and beyond those of a Ventrue. Carlisle possessed unusual humanity for a vampire and self-control which he has attempted to pass onto his family even as they exist as a Blood Bonded (Vinculum?) pack to one another.

                  The Cullens use their Animalism to feed from animals in the woods of Seattle, Washington and maintain daylight existences due to their Fortitude and high Humanity (Path?) ratings. They are often up and about with no real danger to their unlives as long as they avoid direct sunlight. Rumors they actually attend high school, however, are completely ridiculous.

                  While often considered wholly humane, the Cullens may not actually be on the Road of Humanity. They associate with other, less humane, vampires and make no attempts to interfere with their feeding. It is suspected, albeit not confirmed, that Carlisle was captured then turned by the Sabbat decades ago. The fact they were embraced primarily in New York hints at this as well as their pack-dynamic. If so, they are perhaps the only surviving Path of Harmony followers in America. This means they are gregarious and pleasant but see no real moral outrage in other vampires killing to survive, even as they avoid it themselves.

                  The Cullens, themselves, are Autarkis and actively attempt to avoid other Kindred by hiding in a town far too small for any amount of Kindred to hide in and nearby Uktena Lupine territory. How the Cullens have managed to maintain a treaty with this group of werewolves is anyone's guess but some believe this is due to their leader foreseeing them becoming involved in the destruction of several great threats to the tribe.

                  Visitors expecting the Cullens to be impoverished or living normal lives in the Pacific Northwest should note they actually have multiple residences, havens, and an expansive stock portfolio. Carlisle Cullen believes wealth will keep his family from wanting to murder as much as ample supplies of animal blood. As such, he's used his Presence and youngest daughter's unique oracular abilities to become as rich as any other Ventrue.

                  Despite their Autarkis nature, the Cullens have ties to a coterie of high ranking Italian Camarilla Archons which assist them in protecting the Masquerade due to Carlisle Cullen's past with them. These particular vampires, known as the Voturi, are considered fiends and degenerates even by their fellow Elders but still hold a large amount of sway. Some believe the reason for their sympathy may have to do with romantic or practical desire for the usual abilities of some of the Cullen children.

                  It has been speculated that the Cullens also may have some members, if not all of them, who have a poisonous bite and may have learned Serpentis as an additional discipline (or simply possess a poisonous bite flaw). Others believe their self-control is compromised by their vegetarian diet so they kill anyone they feed on. These might also simply be malicious lies about the Bloodline. Whatever the case, recently, a bizarre series of rumors have begun about the tiny Bloodline and they have been forced to flee the Pacific Northwest.

                  Disicplines: Animalism, Fortitude, Presence

                  Weakness: In addition to the standard ability of vampires to suffer from Sunlight, the Cullens suffer doubly so as it striking them results in their appearance changing dramatically. No matter, their humanity, they assume the appearance of albino-skinned monstrous predators. Humans who look upon them during this must make a Humanity roll with SUCCESS meaning they are enraged enough to want to form a torch-wielding mob. Failure means they're merely inclined to look upon them as people per their normal beliefs. A Botch means the human gains a derangement where they become obsessed with the vampire as well as their desire to be like them.

                  It should be noted the Cullen's abstaining from human blood is not done through purely moral matters. As stated, all members of the Cullen family use the Vinculum to enforce an entirely unnatural bond between one another so they are encouraged to treat each other as family. They all follow the same Path and use social conditioning to keep themselves on the straight and narrow. Furthermore, Carlisle uses his Animalism and Presence to calm the Beasts of his children in order to minimize their desire to do harm to others. The Cullen's way of living is wholly unnatural to vampires but is largely effective if your sole goal is to keep you from harming humans by feeding.

                  The Cullens lives are lived through abstaining, blood bond, and rulership by their pack so they don't have any insights into Golconda or other secrets for being "Friendly Neighborhood Vampires." Indeed, the Cullens tend to believe love is actually an answer for the Beast and attempt to find partners for all of their members. This is perhaps equally unhealthy as it requires the Pack to group and damn others to a lifetime of being unnatural bonds and the lust of the damned.

                  If the Cullens are Sabbat on the Path of Harmony then they have no friends and must remain Autarkis less they draw the attention of their former sect.

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                  V:TR version

                  The Cullens are largely the same except they are now actually a mortal enemy of the Players bloodline as their story got out in the Chronicles of Darkness universe. EVERY SINGLE VAMPIRE IN THE WORLD largely considers them an embarrassment and wishes to destroy them for the actions of their youngest attention-seeking teenage girl member. The Players, alone, however, seem to consider them a personal embarrassment and are united in their desire to kill them.

                  Why?

                  They represent the dark side of said Bloodline's stupid lust for fame.
                  Dear lord, what have you brought upon this earth?

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                  • #24
                    Hmm, I'll make an attempt here, for raw hilarity.

                    Los Pandoricos

                    Nickname
                    : Fucking vampires!

                    Quote: "Pussy, pussy, pussy!"

                    Los Pandoricos is a small bloodline, constrained to a single (but large) Sabbat pack operating along the US/Mexican border and sharing a haven which masquerades as a strip club called the Titty Twister. Numerous theories of its founding exist, but most involve infernalism and either the Gangrel or Tzimisce, but theories among Cainite scholars often include the Baali or even the Tlacique. None are known for fact, as the pack maintains only nominal relations with the Sabbat, and is fiercely territorial, turning their fangs on any Cainite interloper as quickly as the mortal victims they lure on a daily basis.

                    The bloodline is to a member on the Path of Evil Revelations, infernalist, diablerist (when the opportunity presents itself), and take numerous investments over the course of their unlives. They were recently nearly wiped out to their last by an unlikely alliance of a pair of bank robbers, their hostage family which included a pastor struggling to maintain his True Faith, a biker, and a Vietnam veteran.

                    Disciplines: Potence, Presence, Protean (when learning Animal Form, Los Pandoricos vampires' alternate forms are disgusting, demonic mockeries of their animal forms, conveying not the typical attribute bonuses but rather those enumerated below).

                    Weakness: Los Pandoricos' Beasts manifest physically, and not exclusively in the throes of frenzy. They cannot simply express and retract their fangs at will; instead, their entire body and physical appearance take on a demonic and horrible form not unlike the Zulo form of the Tzimisce. When a Los Pandorico vampire frenzies, prepares to enter combat or feed, or simply becomes excited, their Appearance rating drops to zero; they gain a number of temporary dots in physical attributes equal to their Appearance, as if they had spent blood to buff those attributes. Moreover, for every century a Los Pandorico vampire ages, they gain a dot of Appearance (to generational maximum) as their physical form perfects itself over time and their alternate form becomes ever more horrible.

                    However, this does not come without cost. Likely due to numerous demonic investments over the centuries or raw corruption of form, Los Pandoricos vampires soak damage as if they were mortal (bashing is not halved and lethal is soaked at +2 difficulty), and they may never learn Fortitude.
                    Last edited by Theodrim; 11-07-2016, 02:50 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Anyone else have any suggestion for media bloodlines to make?


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post
                        Anyone else have any suggestion for media bloodlines to make?
                        I have a few:

                        - Jerry's line from Fright Night (the original). Why not start with a classic, if I'm making suggestions?

                        : The gals and their magical immortality waterfall from Byzantium

                        - The vampires from Forever Knight

                        - Stephen King's eponymous Sleepwalkers

                        - The Chiropterans from Blood: The Last Vampire (and Blood+, Blood C, etc etc)

                        And since I'm mentioning anime...

                        - The Ghouls from Tokyo Ghoul
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post
                          * Rise functions like Movement of the Mind but is limited to allowing the vampire to fly or others he's holding.
                          Just give them the Gargoyle Flight "discipline"


                          Originally posted by Theodrim View Post
                          [B]Los Pandoricos
                          You should watch the TV series, some good Vampire politics, and an interesting dive into their physiology and mythology.

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                          • #28
                            Wow, I forgot all about this thread. Nice necro. I liked the idea of having vampires that traded in their Protean animal forms, for a quasi-Zulo form over which they had no control, based off Appearance rating. I might have to figure out a way to work that into a future chronicle.

                            Originally posted by CTPhipps View Post
                            Anyone else have any suggestion for media bloodlines to make?
                            Okay, fine.

                            Sal Permalum Bibit

                            Nickname: Mulders, Fluke-boys, "...seriously?" (exclusively used by Nosferatu)

                            Quote: "Leave the stakes, take the salt shakers."

                            Sal Permalum Bibit is a very strange bloodline, originally discovered in North America in the mid-1960s, with incredibly obscure origins which are the subject to wild speculation by any vampire to ever have seen one. They have been argued to be a bloodline of the Nosferatu, perhaps members of the Drowned Legacies, escaped subjects of sorcerous experiments by Tremere or Tzimisce, and everything in between, but the rumors hide a deeper truth that could, if discovered, shake Kindred society to its core: they are not even of Earth. The original Sal Permalum Bibit was discovered on another world entirely, by a Void Engineer expedition. Sneaking onboard their ship by impersonating a crew member it had slain in a feeding frenzy, it fed from and killed several members before being damaged into torpor. Believing the creature dead, it was brought to Earth for vivisection and observation, but it arose, escaped into the world, and began to Embrace humans.

                            For now, their existence is limited to coastal cities and cities situated near salt flats or salt mines, and they make no more contact with other Kindred than necessary. The highest single concentration of the bloodline can be found in Salt Lake City, where the presumed progenitor of the bloodline and its oldest childer are said to make their havens. All the better, because their native appearance is alien enough to shake even the strongest-willed Nosferatu: within a matter of nights of their Embrace, their physical form shifts and changes to resemble flukes with arms, legs, extensive fur, and what appears to be fungus or seaweed growing from their slimy skin, and their hands grow sucker-like appendages from their fingers which they use for feeding, instead of other vampires' mouths and fangs.

                            Additionally, Sal Permalum Bibit does not only consume their victims' blood: they completely dehydrate their victims, draining them of precious salts and electrolytes, leaving dessicated husks in their wake. The (incredibly rare) ghoul of a Sal Permalum Bibit can be identified by their sullen, sunken appearance, and near-continuous consumption of sports drinks and salty snacks. They would be considered by Kindred society at large as existential threats to the Masquerade to be exterminated at first opportunity, but for their abilities to hide and control others' minds which can and do put Toreador, Malkavians, and even Ventrue, to shame.

                            Disciplines: Dominate, Obfuscate, Presence

                            Weakness: Vampires of the Sal Permalum Bibit bloodline have Appearance ratings of zero, which can never be raised through experience or other supernatural means, and an appearance as listed above. Additionally, when feeding they deal double damage to their victims as they are drained of precious salts and other bodily fluids.

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                            • #29
                              S01E06 Star Trek?

                              Well Thanks Deep Umbra

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                              • #30
                                Soucriants

                                Nickname: Brethren (old form), Sexist Assholes (modern), Byzantines, The Children of the Island

                                Quote: "We are champions of great justice who accept only the finest of men into our ranks."

                                Soucriants are a legacy dating back to Byzantine and the Dream of Michael. Allegedly, according to Clan Lore, Michael and the Dracon once conceived a childe together with their blood that possessed innumerable powers which were not displayed by regular Kindred. It was also a Clanless of neither sect and never entirely accepted by its own illustrious founders despite its 5th generation blood. As a result, The Soucriant fled from the fall of said city then traveled all the way to the Caribbean. The Soucriant left only one childe, Savella, who was embraced from the Latin Crusaders who sacked the city.

                                Eventually, the Scoucriant was discovered by his childe in 1499 and soon Savella was sending many candidates to be embraced by his sire due to the strange condition which afflicted them all. These candidates, despite being "Caitiff" by some, were powerful enough that they became reluctantly accepted by the Camarilla as a new bloodline in the same way the Tremere were accepted to a lesser degree. They have also formed a miniature secret society of a few dozen vampires called The Brethren. This group supposedly were champions of humanity, knowledge, and culture but this claim is of questionable pedigree given their conservative reactionary beliefs (for the 15th century).

                                Their inability to embrace new progeny meant they were wholly dependent on their reclusive (and insane) founder, however. Savella kept his location secret and attempts to find the island have all failed miserably (or resulted in the deaths of archaeologists, would-be diablerists, and more). As a rite of passage, they choose their candidates from rich intelligent white men and then send them to the Blood Island where they are judged by the Scoucriant. Savella was a deeply misogynist man in life and as leader of his cult, refused any women to be embraced. He is also not terribly fond of non-Europeans or Europeans of a non-Anglo identity either.

                                The Scoucriant cares nothing for race, creed, wealth, religion, or gender but judges each candidate only on their courage in the face of death. Only those ready and willing to die are embraced. Another reason the vampire bloodline remains small. They are also considered something of an embarrassment by all but the most reactionary Kindred since the Camarilla has always been ahead of mortals in terms of prejudice (at least regarding trivialities of sex, race, and belief).

                                In the 17th century, the clan produced two female members in Clara and Eleanor which Savella hunted religiously across the planet. He even hired Assamites to kill her before Clara managed to kill one and proved her worth. Eventually, with the help of a smitten Darvell, Clara killed Savella and decapitated the Brethren. The cult is now debating whether to pursue her or simply let the man's ridiculous prejudice die out.

                                Disciplines: Foritude, Potence, Presence

                                Weakness: All Scoucriant are 6th generation and immensely powerful Kindred but they are incapable of embracing new progeny. They cannot feed on animal blood or blood bags but must drink from living subjects. They also are incapable of making ghouls or embracing new Kindred. As such, they are limited to actually convincing others to help them with cash or their charming personality.

                                While Savella was alive, all female or minority Kindred of the Bloodline received the flaw (Hunted) 4pt by the Brethren. With sponsorship of a member, it was possible to negotiate this away but only if you promised to never embrace another female or minority. If Darvell becomes the new head of the Bloodline, the sexism of the Scoucriant's childer will likely cease. Many of them have chaffed under Savella's misogyny for years, if for only the fact they have a desire to embrace promising candidates and a dislike of female Kindred's disdain.

                                Many also suffer the flaw "Fangless" and use knives or claws to feed. They still induce the Kiss surprisingly enough.
                                Last edited by CTPhipps; 10-09-2018, 01:10 AM.


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