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  • Standing Rock and the Dakota Pipeline in The World of Darkness

    It was sadly inevitable that in spite of the peaceful, non violent intentions, the Wyrm-scum of the Oil Companies from *our* world still struck back with rubber bullets, tazers, clubs and high-powered water.

    And yet it is heartening, that in all this pain and sorrow, that Veterans of the United States Army have gathered by the *thousands* to join the Lakota in preserving their Cultural Dignity, and quite movingly, knelt in apology for the atrocities committed upon Natives by their predecessors, building a bridge of reconciliation between Two Warrior Cultures.

    Even though this tragic battle is far from over:

    1) How would the Garou have reacted to this desecration of Sacred Lakota Land? Would they have struck out sooner and made mincemeat of the Oil Company's Wyrm-stooges?

    2) In The World of Darkness, would the apology and reconciliation between Native and US Warriors have even happened, and be a turning-point of hope in these dark times? If yes, no doubt there would have been some Child of Gaia (even Salubri) involvenement that would have made it smoother?
    Last edited by Lin Liren; 12-06-2016, 02:22 AM.

  • Aeternal
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    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    2) Since Petroleum came into being from the natural process of decomposed dinosaurs (and other extinct multicellular organisms) compressed under high pressure, it's reasonable to assume NOT all Petroleum is in and of itself "of the Wyrm" on a spiritual level now, is it? Since it is the result of a natural rather than unnatural process.
    Just because a 'natural process' occurs that makes oil, under extreme stresses, doesn't mean that the product 'oil' isn't a poison to Gaia's children and creatures... it is a process of transformation of decay, of decayed material... in fetid swamps, mangrove swamps or any process by which this material was 'buried' and then finally was transformed into "oil" substance.

    Well, in the Wyrm's cosmology portfolio, it is very capable of exerting it's influence of decay back in the day before it went mad... there are some types of decay that can be seen as "more normal" then others but the oil itself is a poison to land, life, and water... including air also. Just swallow some, see if that doesn't make it clear that "oil" is poison... regardless if it was made by a process after it had decayed by "natural means". I am sure poisons existed even in the days when the Gauntlet wasn't there and the wyrm caught in the madness of the weaver's webs.

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  • Lin Liren
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    It's heartening to see there are Warriors as Honorable, Passionate and Committed as The Garou in Real Life too.

    " Veterans vs. Trump: Pipeline Will Never Be Built, Warriors Vow"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0c1284f25476e

    Guess it's true what Fraulein Maria said in "The Sound of Music"

    “When the Lord Closes a Door, Somewhere He Opens a Window.

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  • EvilTyger
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    Unfortunately, the 'camp' was largely turning into 'Woodstock' complete with the trash levels, but without the talent. (Too cold for Madona.) The original camp was taken down, and the trash cleaned up by the Standing Rock Sioux, so they moved the protest onto private property. The owners did not approve.

    http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/S...412494563.html

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  • Lin Liren
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    I shake my head in sadness today; to think I would see an atrocity like this happen OUTSIDE a worse-than-usual Steven Seagal Movie. So THIS is the brutality and tyranny that an "Executive Order" makes LEGAL....

    "Police Raid Standing Rock Camp, Dismantle Tipis and Are Burning What Remains"

    February 2, 2017

    http://alternativemediasyndicate.com...rning-remains/

    So sad, so angry....
    Last edited by Lin Liren; 02-03-2017, 02:31 AM. Reason: Make post less "dangerous" and antagonistic in case there are actual Mr Trump supporters here who can be angered by it.

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  • Prince of the Night
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    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    That Wyrm-scum Trump actually up and did it

    Not one WEEK into its presidency, it has actually signed an Executive Order for its precious pipeline to be forcefully built over Standing Rock, meaning it can send MILITARY GRADE Firepower on protestors if it wants to.

    https://news.vice.com/story/trump-is...tone-pipelines

    Oh God, why are The Garou fiction when they are needed the MOST...

    I thought id add, we dont have the Fires of Rage.

    nor do Kinfolk.

    do they let that stop them from doing their best to serve gaia?

    I've risked my life a time or two , compulsively collecting cans.

    Gotten over a dozen on one short walk to starbucks and back.

    Gone down under a bridge in spite of my fathers Warnigs... because I have MS and should be using a cane... he warns I could break my neck and be paralyzed.
    Last edited by Prince of the Night; 01-26-2017, 11:39 PM.

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  • EvilTyger
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    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    That Wyrm-scum Trump actually up and did it

    Not one WEEK into its presidency, it has actually signed an Executive Order for its precious pipeline to be forcefully built over Standing Rock, meaning it can send MILITARY GRADE Firepower on protestors if it wants to.

    https://news.vice.com/story/trump-is...tone-pipelines

    Oh God, why are The Garou fiction when they are needed the MOST...
    Just to be clear, it isn't. It's upstream and under a reservoir that could have serious impact on everyone downstream, not just Standing Rock. The construction is actually more dangerous than the pipeline itself. I'm not exactly sure why they can't go around the reservoir.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Fat Larry View Post
    Is Kellyann Conway Zhyzhak?
    I DON'T KNOW, IS SHE SCREAMING ALL OF THE TIME?

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  • Fat Larry
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    Is Kellyann Conway Zhyzhak?

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Prince of the Night View Post
    Am I a bad Person because I find Myself attaching -ithkya to trumps name?
    That would have required him to be a werewolf, as opposed to an empty shell that wants people brown-nosing him day-in, day-out. Also, given that VP Pence is basically from an apocalyptic fertility cult branch of Christianity, he's probably a shoulder on which at least some blame can rest.

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  • Prince of the Night
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    Am I a bad Person because I find Myself attaching -ithkya to trumps name?

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  • Lin Liren
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    That Wyrm-scum Trump actually up and did it

    Not one WEEK into its presidency, it has actually signed an Executive Order for its precious pipeline to be forcefully built over Standing Rock, meaning it can send MILITARY GRADE Firepower on protestors if it wants to.

    https://news.vice.com/story/trump-is...tone-pipelines

    Oh God, why are The Garou fiction when they are needed the MOST...
    Last edited by Lin Liren; 01-26-2017, 10:10 PM.

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  • idpersona
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    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    1) Oil Spills in the World of Darkness would no doubt turn the surrounding Umbra into a spiritual wasteland: And while it has been proven that Oil Spills even in OUR world can be cleaned up (even if not perfectly), but is it possible to clean it on a *spiritual* level, to make the land of the catastrophe "Of Gaia" rather than "Of The Wyrm" once more?
    Gurahl have a few Rites to do just this. Rite of Healing Winds (level 2) and Rite of the Pure Land (level 3) both cleanse an area of pollution/toxins/wyrm taint.

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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    Originally posted by Lin Liren View Post
    2) Since Petroleum came into being from the natural process of decomposed dinosaurs
    Actually, it's plant matter from the Carboniferous, which ended about a hundred million years before dinosaurs really took off, and it didn't decompose very well; animals tend to lack the sheer mass and concentration of organic matter to give rise to fossil fuels, unless it's through marine plankton, and decomposed organic matter would lack a lot of the required carbon. However, there are a few dinosaur fossils with uranium-enriched structures, and a lot of radioactive mineral deposits actually date back to the late Mesozoic. As for the process being "of the Wyrm" or not, probably not, though it does concentrate some radioactive minerals and heavy metals in various fossil fuel types, such as coal, so the end result can still not be very pretty, as far as Sense Wyrm is concerned.

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  • Lin Liren
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    Sigh... Now that the dreaded inevitable HAS happened (Oils Spill into a nearby drinking water resevoir), *before* the Pipeline has been completed no less, two quick relevant questions.

    1) Oil Spills in the World of Darkness would no doubt turn the surrounding Umbra into a spiritual wasteland: And while it has been proven that Oil Spills even in OUR world can be cleaned up (even if not perfectly), but is it possible to clean it on a *spiritual* level, to make the land of the catastrophe "Of Gaia" rather than "Of The Wyrm" once more?

    2) Since Petroleum came into being from the natural process of decomposed dinosaurs (and other extinct multicellular organisms) compressed under high pressure, it's reasonable to assume NOT all Petroleum is in and of itself "of the Wyrm" on a spiritual level now, is it? Since it is the result of a natural rather than unnatural process.

    Surely a Glass Walker or Two out there would also agree, since they have considered Petroleum and Diesel Engines as "spiritual natural and alive" as any Gaian creation since the Industrial Revolution....

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