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    I'm trying to get a handle on the different points of view between Garou Breeds. I wrote this short scene about a Metis explaining to his Homid friend about the drawbacks of being in Homid form. I've been off base on a few things and want to see if the Metis' point of view is correct.

    “It was slightly disappointing actually.” Alex signs.

    “What?” Bobby sets down his soda can, confused. “You’ve been waiting your whole life for your first change and all you say is ‘it’s disappointing?’ It is good not to get angry at every little thing right?””

    “I’ve lived with my rage for my entire life. I have no problems controlling it.” Alex frowns, wondering how to explain what he means to his friend. “There’s good things. I can walk around town now. I can meet people without them screaming in fear. The colors….” Alex looks around again and takes in the colors of the graffiti at the skate park. “You see colors so much better than Lupus or Metis.”

    “But…” Bobby prompts.

    “You don’t feel.” Alex’s hands pause as he considers what to say next. “When I am myself, I know exactly how I feel. I don’t have to think about it. I just know. But, now? I’m so disconnected from my emotions, sometimes I can’t tell until I’m myself again. “ Alex watches a kinfolk couple walk past. “My grandfather always wondered how Homids could work for years at a job they hated. 'Pentex makes them do such horrible things, how could they stand it?' I think they just don’t realize how they feel about their work. Homids sleepwalk through life and going through the motions without feeling. You can be so disconnected from your emotions, you can lie to yourself about how you feel. It’s probably why banes have an easy time corrupting Homids.”

    Bobby takes a sip of his soda as he digests what Alex said. “That’s kind of deep, man.”

    “Homid is good for thinking….” Alex smiles. “But food tastes bland in Homid. No wonder you drink that sugary shit all the time.”
    Last edited by wonderandawe; 02-01-2017, 12:17 AM.


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    Interesting take on it (and good job). It never occurred to me that the -1 Rage dif for Crinos would come off so strongly from an RP standpoint but I suppose I can see it.

    The last line comes off a bit odd to me. Do wolves have that much better of a sense of taste than humans?


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    • #3
      They way the books explains being in Crinos, it says the rage shimmers just below the surface. I tried to see it from the point of view of "I lived with Rage all my life and now in this form I don't feel so much" rather than "Grr... I'm so angry! Ah... It's better now I am in homid form." People experience things from a relative point of view. As a Metis, your rage is the baseline. Though, some Metis still feel the second scenario.

      I remember reading somewhere in the book or on the forum wolves have both a better sense of smell and taste. I extended that to Metis, but there is no mechanically backing for that. I'll drop the sense of taste thing out of any future writing.


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      • #4
        Wolves have an obscenely good sense of smell and taste. Honestly the lupus bonus is probably grossly understating how much better it would actually be.

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        • #5
          Smell I know. And I'm not arguing this. It's just the first time I'd heard the taste thing. Not a big deal either way.

          And again, wonderandawe, great job. It was a fun read.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by idpersona View Post
            And again, wonderandawe, great job. It was a fun read.
            Thanks! These two guys are NPCs in my new quest I'm starting in March on RPnation.


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            • #7
              That write up was awesome. Thanks for that!

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              • #8
                @wonderandawe Great work dude, +1 from me , a Metis lover
                Last edited by Story Letter; 02-01-2017, 12:20 PM.

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                • #9
                  Even aside from the -1 Rage Diff, lacking ability to move your ears, sniff better and not feel anything in your whiskers would be dulling. Your only good senses in homid are sight and touch.


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                  • #10
                    Well to be fair he is probably exaggerating how much control he has had over his Rage, even a Ragabash doesn't have full control of his Rage his whole life, as it can swell past the default of 1 during stress and what not.

                    And its not like he was in Lupus form, its fine him stating his senses are dulled in homid form compared to Crinos.

                    Also what would his Metis Mutation be?


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
                      Well to be fair he is probably exaggerating how much control he has had over his Rage, even a Ragabash doesn't have full control of his Rage his whole life, as it can swell past the default of 1 during stress and what not.
                      This character has the Calm Heart Merit. I know that doesn't make rage completely controllable, but Alex is the equivalent of a teenager. He knows everything and has everything under control.

                      Alex is slated to be either a Theurge or a Philodox. It's a quest game, so the Player Character gets first dibs on all the Auspices.



                      Originally posted by Eldagusto View Post
                      Also what would his Metis Mutation be?
                      He's deaf. Alex is using sign language to communicate.

                      I thought about changing the 'screamed' line, but I figured Alex would understand the concept of screams as "Noises terrified homids make that attract attention."


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                      • #12
                        Some resources that mirror treatment metis face;


                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingi

                        http://stopchildwitchcraftaccusation...ting-evil.html


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ana Mizuki View Post

                          Wow, these are really good links about horrible concepts.

                          I'm planning on having two metis in my quest. One (Alex) raised in the "best", but smothering environment available to an raging werewolf pup. The other, who is low functioning autistic, abandoned by his parents and hangs around his adopted Caern in Lupus/Crinos. I want to have two Metis characters as foils to each other, but writing an autistic character is intimidating. I am researching a lot to avoid the metal illness writing pitfalls.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wonderandawe View Post


                            Wow, these are really good links about horrible concepts.

                            I'm planning on having two metis in my quest. One (Alex) raised in the "best", but smothering environment available to an raging werewolf pup. The other, who is low functioning autistic, abandoned by his parents and hangs around his adopted Caern in Lupus/Crinos. I want to have two Metis characters as foils to each other, but writing an autistic character is intimidating. I am researching a lot to avoid the metal illness writing pitfalls.
                            I think it is important to both address that children can still end up in that situationin real life and use it as a way to understand the treatment a metis faces.

                            As an autistic person and someone who has worked a bit with other autistic people, always remember that the mind behind the disorder is sound. Just because they cannot always communicate well, doesn't mean autistic people are dumb or unable to make do. And they can listen, and plan.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ana Mizuki View Post
                              As an autistic person and someone who has worked a bit with other autistic people, always remember that the mind behind the disorder is sound. Just because they cannot always communicate well, doesn't mean autistic people are dumb or unable to make do. And they can listen, and plan.
                              Chirps at Birds isn't dumb and he can take care of himself fine. He defends his Caern from the Wyrm just like the rest of the Sept. Living outside of Human society is a boom for Chirp, though Alex, the other metis, is horribly embarrassed by Chirp. Chirp went though is first change about four years ago yet hasn't been interested in the rite of passage.

                              One of the major aspects of W:tA I like over W:tF is the different point of view Lupus and Metis characters provide. As a writer, I always want to explore view points that are different from my own.

                              I've been rereading Far From the Tree, which has a section on both Deaf and Autism. Do you have any other books/resources you can suggest?


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